EPTSubtle Evolution of ZvT (Oct GSL spoilers) - Page 4
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kota
Denmark84 Posts
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Apoo
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Really nice structure, im going to use Marco Hatcheries in my next matches. One negative thing: Please do not use those crappy headlines again: Yellow and pixeld font on an ugly purple background. : ( | ||
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pksens
United Kingdom156 Posts
In addition: 1) Quite often seeing a 7 roach push off of the standard 2 base opening. After speedling, keep mining gas and opt for your next 150-200 gas on roaches with the option of a wave of speedlings behind it. The key here is you can rush a 3rd and a ton of drones behind it if the opponent is doing a typical reactor helion build. If the opponent makes a mistake you can outright cripple him (ie doesn't wall in natural, like STC Stephano G3 IPL), or often times just pressure the first supply depot + kill marines/scv's behind it whilst macroing up. Very much a meta game feature with the prevelance of reactor helion into expansion builds. 2) Upgrades: Terrans featured alot of fast 2-2 double ebay play, or 3-3 rushes. 1-1 often in time with combat shield/stim, 2-2 with another push. I notice alot of zergs have universally gotten +1 mellee attack alot faster and fast +2 attack. If only to allow ling/bane/muta do deal just enough DPS rather than survive with carapaces. Whats next? A) Late game baneling drops are STILL criminally underused. By the mid-late game there are turrets on every base but there are ways around that. For example, using a "dummy" overlord to take damage, or to unload banelings out of site just away from the CC. If it's an OC, you are going to wreck a SCV line. If it's a Planetary, it'd be a good idea to space out your first baneling so it doesn't clump up and all get blown up in 2 hits. B) Nydus ling spreads. The main objective here is to force the Terran to constantly split up his army to deal with annoying lings in places he isn't covering from the front. If you manage to get a Nydus up in the main you will likely disrupt only production, as by then the mineral lines have depleted and 14+ marines are in constant cycle that can deal with you. Again, any moment marines are not where they should be, a tank is more vunerable to mutalisks etc. C) Late game creepspread- it often dies after you lose your initial queens + tumours on the first few pushes by Terran but a constant queen production should be ideal. The question is: on top of baneling land mines, dilligent macro injections and production, mutalisk harass, creep spread, potential nydus harass, baneling drop play and general micro with units - is this entirely possible within APM constraints? | ||
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DandyConeJellos
United States6 Posts
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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JoeAWESOME
Sweden1080 Posts
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Mayor
United States472 Posts
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ticktack
United Arab Emirates874 Posts
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Umpteen
United Kingdom1570 Posts
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Horse...falcon
United States1851 Posts
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Fateless
United States99 Posts
On October 17 2011 03:36 a176 wrote: most the stuff is normal/given, but good post nevertheless Most of this response is normal/given, but good post anyway. OP: I thought the comment of this was fantastic, but agree with the need for improved Graphic Design. | ||
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Emporio
United States3069 Posts
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On October 17 2011 20:28 hoolaboris wrote: did i just read the word "nash equilibrium" in a starcraft thread? that's a very bold term to use for a simple metagame tendancy He COULD say that there is no good counter to hellion openings, and get the thread completely ruined by wild balance claims right and left. OR, he could give the equivalent, but much sexier, statement that always opening hellions is a nash equilibrium, and not catch any flame at all. Easy choice imo, well done OP, and thanks for the article.  | ||
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Celadan
Norway471 Posts
 , thanks for the post^^ | ||
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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ReturnStroke
United States801 Posts
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Kollapse
United States125 Posts
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Baha
Spain64 Posts
On October 18 2011 04:11 Kollapse wrote: Super awesome post, you've convinced me to purchase a GOM ticket next season I will, too, first because I was following the last days of the GSL on stream when I could and second because there will be more foreigners this season | ||
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