Hmm, Leenock's use of dynamic banelings have been around for a very long time, I noticed him using them a few months ago but only to a moderate amount of success.
Can't remember the vod, but I'm sure it was back when xel naga caverns was still played. I was quite surprised no-one copied him, as this does have a potential to be quite devastating. Terran thinks he wins a battle only to lose a massive clump of marines..

BrodiaQ

United States892 Posts

October 17 2011 04:53 GMT

#24

Really really nice to see this in writing since these are all changes that have been happening in my play lately that I didn't even realize I had done. Really well put together post, great analysis and explanations given.

5/5

Mobius_1

United Kingdom2763 Posts

October 17 2011 05:04 GMT

#25

Wow, nice, I've also noticed some of those things seemed a little different but since I'm T I just kind of assumed that's how they always played ^_^

Seems like most of those style changes were precipitated by the rise in the use of Hellion openings, making fast thirds and ling-only defenses not viable.

Also, SirJolt is too awesome.

Imalengrat

Australia365 Posts

October 17 2011 05:04 GMT

#26

Nice read. ZvT is my favorite match up because of ALL of this.

CatNzHat

United States1599 Posts

October 17 2011 05:07 GMT

#27

Great post here, I was considering doing something similar for the TvP builds, but I think I'm going to hold off until after blizzcon. As a matchup gets more figured out, the changes become more and more subtle, and more and more confident, such has been happening with TvP lately, and the ZvT matchup as a whole (meaning from both sides).

I second SirJolt with the text.

Vei

United States2845 Posts

October 17 2011 05:25 GMT

#28

sick post! great stuff, will definitely read more in-depth when i return.

*cue dragoon voice in my mind*

0neder

United States3733 Posts

October 17 2011 05:28 GMT

#29

Great post. Concise, well-worded, and an accurate summary that in part illustrates how Sc2 is getting more exciting as players get closer to the skill ceiling.

Belial88

United States5217 Posts

October 17 2011 05:30 GMT

#30

Nice write-up. You watch play from a year ago, and honestly, I can say with confidence that I play better today than Fruitdealer, or Kryix, did a year ago. Even watching games from 6 months ago, it's just amazing how bad players were. Of course, I'm not saying I'm great, it's just amazing how little we really understand this game. Some things are patches, but it's amazing how much is just people just didn't understand the game.

ptell

United States103 Posts

October 17 2011 05:36 GMT

#31

hey whatthefat, do you also notice that Zergs are getting ling speed later or is it just me?

TheNessman

United States4158 Posts

October 17 2011 05:38 GMT

#32

THESE are the kinds of important strategy posts that need to be constantly discussed on TL. great post!

densha

United States797 Posts

October 17 2011 05:47 GMT

#33

Thank you, OP, for putting in words what has been swimming around in my mind ever since the group stages.

XXXSmOke

United States1333 Posts

October 17 2011 05:50 GMT

#34

What a healthy MU, evolution continues to make it more dynamic.

If only TvP could actually turn into a decent MU like this one.

Good anyalysis OP loved the visuals.

me_viet

Australia1350 Posts

October 17 2011 06:25 GMT

#35

wow great post, some of those things I didn't even notice. good work =]

TutsiRebel

United States172 Posts

October 17 2011 06:31 GMT

#36

This got frontpaged, nice. Fantastic post.

DisaFear

Australia4074 Posts

October 17 2011 06:45 GMT

#37

Wonderful haha, thanks for taking the time to compile it

courtpanda

866 Posts

October 17 2011 06:51 GMT

#38

this almost belongs in the strategy forum its so good

JerKy

Korea (South)3013 Posts

October 17 2011 07:17 GMT

#39

Great write up
Would love to see one for "The Protoss Comeback" :p

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

October 17 2011 07:36 GMT

#40

Yeah zergs in zvt its strong to get 3-4 queens then get gas which is like 30-32 supply I think. do notice this is very effective on maps with an easier to defend natural (its harder on a map like xelnaga where the naturals so big) is what I have noticed anyway.

I have been doing fast 3 queens but not 4 and finding it super effective for creep spread ^^.