• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:29
CEST 15:29
KST 22:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War995.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact Server Blocker 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 ESL Pro Tour for SC2 discontinued
Tourneys
$3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Sagi.gg Launcher Released Bot on ladder Rollback Netcode in Brood War ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs Dreams 2026-10-15 ASL 22 Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal B
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10877 users

ProGamer's Cocoon week 14 statistics

Blogs > JoyfulSpirit
Post a Reply
JoyfulSpirit
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Poland62 Posts
October 16 2011 13:38 GMT
#1
14 weeks ago I started playing Starcraft 2. Now I'm 14 weeks closer to becoming a pro gamer. Each week I'm going to put together statistics of my ladder games using Sc2gears, a replay analysis program.

101 games played, giving 14 games per day on average.

40 ZvZ, 33 ZvP, 25 ZvT - this shows the zerg race is most popular on diamond european ladder. I'm not exactly happy about that, as zvz is the least macro-oriented matchup. Zvz is a great practice of ling battles micro, but I would love to play more macro-oriented zvp and zvt on the ladder. Maybe its time to practice in custom games with terran and protoss friends?

ZvZ - 57% win ratio. I have a style that works out pretty well. I open 13 gas 13 pool, make 15 drones and constantly pressure my enemy with speedlings. Expand on 21. My goal is to win ling battles and keep him in base, making just enough lings to challenge him, but droning as much as I can squeeze out. If I see banelings, I immediately transition to roaches. If I have an economic advantage, I transition into +1 glial roach timing attack or into mutas. Works rly well. I lost a lot to 6-pools so the ratio should be even higher than 57%. If my MMR rating grows and I get better opponents, this ratio might drop, as more and more of my games will go past that +1 timing attack point. I dont have that much experience in zvz long, macro games.

ZvP - 40% win ratio. That's the matchup I'm currently most confused about. I was dieing to DTs and 4-gates. I was being straight-out outmacroed. I lost all my army for free due to bad engagements. I'm having trouble engaging protoss deathball the right way. Its getting better, but still feels like my weakest matchup. Motherships are worst, Im losing entire armies for free, just trying to snipe that thing. I'm getting better and expect the ratio of this matchup much higher next week.

ZvT - 52% win ratio. I'm feeling very strong in long, macro-games. I often outplay and outmacro terrans in big battles. However I die 95% of the time to mech composition - mass hellion thor and tank. No idea how to respond to that. Also dieing a lot to early bunker pressure, as it requires crapload of skill for the zerg to hold it. I'm getting better, but its still really hard. I'll keep opening hatch first until I learn to micro properly and hold.

Interestingly, my average APM is higher in ZvT than in two other matchups. It takes a lot of skill and speed from the zerg to beat the terran.

Today I beat my first master league player, so my promotion is getting closer and closer ;-) More stats next week!

What other statistics would you like to see? Let me know in the comment!

***
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
October 16 2011 13:45 GMT
#2
Nice read and good luck getting promotion! Better work on your zvp
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Mr. Nefarious
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
October 16 2011 14:11 GMT
#3
I feel you against protoss, this season I actually have 100% winrate against Z and T but I'm ¬30% against Toss. High Diamond Z as well.
저그 화이팅
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
October 16 2011 15:30 GMT
#4
GL! Are you spending full time playing sc2? Because 14 games a day while spending your entire time playing sc2 would be kind of low if you ask me.
:O
JoyfulSpirit
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Poland62 Posts
October 16 2011 15:43 GMT
#5
There's also time off calculated into that. Thats why its so low. There are days i don't play at all.

And obviously, I eat, watch replays, take breaks between games, all that good stuff. After a few weeks of playing full-time it was obvious to me that I need a lot of time off to survive a tight practice schedule long-term.

Sure I could play 40 games per day for 3-4 days. But then I'd start forgetting to build spawning pool and stuff (I once rly forgot to build pool when I was tired. I noticed right when first attack came.)

If I wanna keep at it for a few years, I need a smart and balanced schedule. The games played will go up to 20 / day in the nearest weeks I think.
JoyfulSpirit
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Poland62 Posts
October 16 2011 15:46 GMT
#6
On October 16 2011 23:11 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
I feel you against protoss, this season I actually have 100% winrate against Z and T but I'm ¬30% against Toss. High Diamond Z as well.


Interesting, there's probably a pattern. I think that zerg has to macro nearly perfectly to hold off protoss timing pushes. Even for diamonds, it might be hard to keep injecting and spending all money and gas WHILE the 4-gate is killing you. So an equally skilled zerg should lose to an equally skilled protoss.

But its OK, cause I feel like I'm breaking through and getting skilled enough to beat diamond toss players.
Moshikaro
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
135 Posts
October 16 2011 15:58 GMT
#7
Don't know if zerg has to macro perfectly to hold off a protoss timing push. You can just scout for a timing push. If you take fast third, even before the 5 minute mark a timing push from a protoss will most likely not work since you'll lhave more larvae which will result in more units and then you can hold off the timing push really easily. So my advice would be to always take a fast third when you see the protoss doing a FFE and then just getting used to it and being able to defend it.
JoyfulSpirit
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Poland62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 17:44:45
October 16 2011 17:44 GMT
#8
On October 17 2011 00:58 Moshikaro wrote:
Don't know if zerg has to macro perfectly to hold off a protoss timing push. You can just scout for a timing push. If you take fast third, even before the 5 minute mark a timing push from a protoss will most likely not work since you'll lhave more larvae which will result in more units and then you can hold off the timing push really easily. So my advice would be to always take a fast third when you see the protoss doing a FFE and then just getting used to it and being able to defend it.


Yeah, if I learn to do that properly, I'll most likely hold. But what you said is exactly what I mean by "perfect zerg macro". Quick 3rd with constant droning, never missing overlords or injects or upgrades, scouting at right times. Just getting all the macro stuff right. Supplyblock or missed inject = not enough units and loss.

I get better at it, but still its challenging to get it all right...
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Qualifier
20:00
Not-Summer Championship Qual
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 235
Codebar 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 17814
Shuttle 10214
Bisu 2410
Horang2 1136
Jaedong 1086
firebathero 365
Mini 341
Hyuk 276
EffOrt 258
Soma 225
[ Show more ]
Snow 209
Zeus 174
Light 161
Last 139
Leta 110
ggaemo 87
Mind 84
Mong 67
Pusan 59
ToSsGirL 48
Hyun 48
Creator 35
hero 34
Bishop 32
Noble 32
Bale 26
JYJ 20
Terrorterran 20
Shinee 18
Yoon 17
zelot 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
sSak 13
Sacsri 13
yabsab 13
NotJumperer 6
Icarus 6
Dota 2
Gorgc6068
Dendi868
XaKoH 416
420jenkins188
syndereN124
Counter-Strike
fl0m1856
olofmeister911
Heroes of the Storm
Lowko384
Other Games
singsing1969
B2W.Neo768
hiko561
crisheroes224
Khaldor143
Liquid`VortiX124
DeMusliM106
mouzStarbuck55
QueenE30
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 85
• Adnapsc2 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
OSC
9h 31m
Online Event
21h 31m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 13h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 16h
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
1d 20h
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
IPSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Open Qualifier
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.