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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 22 2011 22:28 GMT
#1
Fitness
So….
Recently I’ve been trying to get significantly more fit. I did well for a while, but after vacation and a couple of other factors I’m off the train. And It’s now exactly nine months until the impending surgery. Which sucks :/ At least I know it’s coming at least. However, the best thing to do for my health is to atrophy as little as possible. Hence, It’s important I get some muscle mass. Plus I’ll be tracking lifts in this blog for the Starting Strength program. My lifts are significantly better than last time I started, but I’m still really small/light. SO here we are
I’ll be finally attending a real gym in a week or so.
Weight: 110 Pounds
Height: 5’3.5”
Lifts:
Starting:
Squat: 115 lbs
Bench Press: 65 lbs
Press: 55 lbs
Deadlift: 125lbs
Bent over rows (to be replaced with power cleans): 65lbs

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Age: || Height: 5'4" or m/cm || Weight: 110 lbs
Starting Date: 9/22/11|| Goal Date: 6/22/12
Weight goals – Dunno. At least another 30 pounds lol
Training goals – SS all the way. Get reasonable at power cleans. Ideally 2x bodyweight deadlift.
Nutrition goals – Eat tons and tons and tons and tons of food. Less wheat, unless if it gets in way of eating more food.
Misc goals -- I hope to get to a reasonable level of weight and fitness. Not going for decafchicken like awesomelooks or sjarl like beastness.


(Check out the new health and fitness forum!) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=63


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UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
September 22 2011 22:42 GMT
#2
Good luck, it's a tough program, I'm doing something like it for fat loss, so not following the 'eat one small planet per day' but doing the same training, going well enough for me, almost at bodyweight deadlift, which I'm happy with
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
September 22 2011 22:43 GMT
#3
How old are you?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 22 2011 22:43 GMT
#4
17
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 22:46:24
September 22 2011 22:44 GMT
#5
Good luck! Just wondering how old are you? BTW i weigh the same as you and i want to put on some weight ('cept im 5'7 1/2). I'm 15, maybe we could keep up fitness log together, it always helps to have competition ^^
EDIT: o ur 17 lol. still maybe we could ^^
:O
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 23:08:24
September 22 2011 22:50 GMT
#6
Keep up the good work! Also you should call this Froadac's Fitness Flog so that it rhymes. ALLITERATES
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
September 22 2011 23:05 GMT
#7
On September 23 2011 07:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Keep up the good work! Also you should call this Froadac's Fitness Flog so that it rhymes.


u mean alliterates
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
September 22 2011 23:08 GMT
#8
On September 23 2011 08:05 kaisr wrote:
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On September 23 2011 07:50 Blazinghand wrote:
Keep up the good work! Also you should call this Froadac's Fitness Flog so that it rhymes.


u mean alliterates


Duly noted. I have edited my post appropriately.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
September 22 2011 23:11 GMT
#9
Looking a lot better than before! Keep it up Froadac!
josemb40
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Peru611 Posts
September 22 2011 23:34 GMT
#10
keep it up, it shows! just be careful with injuring yourself
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gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
September 22 2011 23:37 GMT
#11
Very unbalanced program you have here.
Where are exercices for you shoulders, arms (biceps/triceps) and back( if you remove bent over rows as you said) and abs ?
Dont you have a coach at your gym that can help you to create a good and balanced program?

Good luck anyway.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 23:56:58
September 22 2011 23:54 GMT
#12
On September 23 2011 08:37 gds wrote:
Very unbalanced program you have here.
Where are exercices for you shoulders, arms (biceps/triceps) and back( if you remove bent over rows as you said) and abs ?
Dont you have a coach at your gym that can help you to create a good and balanced program?

Good luck anyway.


The press (shoulder, triceps)
Bench press (shoulder, triceps, some bicep)
Deadlift (back and abs)
Squat (abs, legs, back)

Who needs biceps anyway? his arm will grow from benches/presses and his bicep will look bigger anyway :p.

I know u won't make the mistake, but sticking to a good program written on a book (Starting Strength, power to the people) always delivers. Most gym trainers are only good for form questions, and even then, I wouldn't trust them so much.
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
September 23 2011 00:02 GMT
#13
What press? legs press? military press?
Also bench press doesnt train biceps at all and deadlift trains legs/lower back and who work his back by doing squats? What you wrote just doesnt make sense.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 00:06:57
September 23 2011 00:04 GMT
#14
On September 23 2011 08:37 gds wrote:
Very unbalanced program you have here.
Where are exercices for you shoulders, arms (biceps/triceps) and back( if you remove bent over rows as you said) and abs ?
Dont you have a coach at your gym that can help you to create a good and balanced program?

Good luck anyway.


He actually has a phenomenally balanced program as noted above. Powercleans are easily one of the best ways you can build your back muscles. Specific ab excercises are unnecessary, the compound lifts such as press, deadlift, and squat all require great core strength.

On September 23 2011 09:02 gds wrote:
What press? legs press? military press?
Also bench press doesnt train biceps at all and deadlift trains legs/lower back and who work his back by doing squats? What you wrote just doesnt make sense.


Your biceps do get activated in bench, not as much as chest/triceps/shoulders. If you missed the pictures, froadac has things a lot more important to work on then pretty biceps. After he builds up some strenght on SS he can incorporate pull ups. Military press is universally referred to as press. Squats work your back quite a bit if you're doing them properly as your back muscles have to keep your back up and back squats do activate the entire posterior chain.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
September 23 2011 00:09 GMT
#15
Plus a lot of SS variants have chins and pull-ups in them as decaf mentioned, so biceps get targeted very well that way.
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 00:17:05
September 23 2011 00:13 GMT
#16
You're talking about lower back i'm talking about back and if press means military press yes his program is slightly more balanced but still it's far from perfect. And doing powercleans isnt a good idea for beginners at the first place, even with very light weight.

edit: and no benchpress do absolutely nothing for biceps, it's physically impossible to use you biceps by doing benchpress.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 00:34:26
September 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#17
1) Talked to physical therapists. All said it would be great for core and back strength. Which is REALLY what matters in terms of long term health. I'll start over after the surgery, but right now focus is to build up muscles along spine. Because basically all the muscles in my thoracic and cervical reason will be stripped and reattached in 9 months.

I am doing a bunch of stretches via PT. Also a couple isolated lower abdominal and cervical spine exercises. And lat pulldown sorta stuff with a band (still really low weight)

I will actually probably be doing low intensity rows + pc. And maybe not even PC. It's to be dcided.

Went to PT for last time in 3 months today. She said I'm making good progress, and cleared me for SS.

She said I just need to be careful with military press. I need to keep good form (back engaged, etc, but that goes without saying)
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 00:34:00
September 23 2011 00:33 GMT
#18
On September 23 2011 09:13 gds wrote:
You're talking about lower back i'm talking about back and if press means military press yes his program is slightly more balanced but still it's far from perfect. And doing powercleans isnt a good idea for beginners at the first place, even with very light weight.

edit: and no benchpress do absolutely nothing for biceps, it's physically impossible to use you biceps by doing benchpress.


Any concentric motion of your arms activates your biceps. This happens when you bench. Also see note about pull ups which are in variants of SS which hit your back/lats/traps/biceps.

Your traps and upper back are activated when you pull the bar off the ground in a deadlift, and much more in a powerclean. The overhead press also activates your back/lats/traps when you lock it out in the overhead position.

There is absolutely no reason a beginner shouldn't learn the powerclean.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 00:44:39
September 23 2011 00:40 GMT
#19
Next time you bench ask a partner to touch your biceps, it will be completely flabby. As i said it's is physically impossible to use your biceps by doing benchpress because if you tighten them you can not extend your arms.
Same with overhead press, your lats will not be involved, the lats are used to do the opposite movment.
And i wouldnt recommand powerclean to someone who has no core strenght as it will lead to injuries.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 23 2011 00:43 GMT
#20
I've been doing PT for core strength for 4 months. I did this same routine (-PC) about 3 months ago. Started two weeks ago.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 23 2011 00:45 GMT
#21
Honest to God, you can squat more than most guys I see in the gym lol, keep it up! :D

On September 23 2011 09:40 gds wrote:
Next time you bench ask a partner to touch your biceps, it will be completely flabby. As i said it's is physically impossible to use your biceps by doing benchpress because if you tighten them you can not extend your arms.
And i wouldnt recommand powerclean to someone who has no core strenght as it will lead to injuries.


What he's doing works, just trust in that.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20074 Posts
September 23 2011 01:01 GMT
#22
On September 23 2011 09:40 gds wrote:
Next time you bench ask a partner to touch your biceps, it will be completely flabby. As i said it's is physically impossible to use your biceps by doing benchpress because if you tighten them you can not extend your arms.
Same with overhead press, your lats will not be involved, the lats are used to do the opposite movment.
And i wouldnt recommand powerclean to someone who has no core strenght as it will lead to injuries.


Its impossible to retract your arm without using your bicep. You retract your arms to lower the bar in a bench press. To test this, hold your arm as if it was at the bottom of a bench and press against a wall and feel your bicep. If it is not flexed you probably have some nueromuscular issues you should have looked at.

As you lock out an overhead press, you should be using your lats/traps/back muscles to "stretch" the bar over head, which becomes more true the farther back you hold the bar.

There is a small % of men in the world i wouldn't trust to practice a 45 pound powerclean, especially if that person is on a plan like Starting Strength, like froadac is, he is perfectly fine.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 23 2011 01:08 GMT
#23
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralSternal/BBBenchPress.html

"Dynamic Stabilizer"
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 23 2011 02:02 GMT
#24
So... in any case I'll try to update weekly.

With pictures lifts etc.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 03:16:15
September 23 2011 02:52 GMT
#25
oh wow i missed this blog. good luck froadac )))

also ignore gds!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 23 2011 02:54 GMT
#26
Go Froadac!!! You are gonna get hella buff!
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 06:28:43
September 23 2011 04:00 GMT
#27
Lol tt.

Also damn bacne.
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
September 23 2011 13:16 GMT
#28
On September 23 2011 09:40 gds wrote:
Next time you bench ask a partner to touch your biceps, it will be completely flabby.


Decaf's biceps? Flabby? Psh. You obviously don't know Decaf.

Keep it up Froadac. gds is giving you some bad advice but you know you're on the right track.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
September 23 2011 14:32 GMT
#29
I look forward to seeing your progress cutie!
I <3 Plexa.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 23 2011 15:04 GMT
#30
^ For the love of god !
novabossa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States350 Posts
September 23 2011 15:48 GMT
#31
Oh he's glistening.
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Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 16:13:19
September 23 2011 16:10 GMT
#32
On September 23 2011 09:02 gds wrote:
What press? legs press? military press?
Also bench press doesnt train biceps at all and deadlift trains legs/lower back and who work his back by doing squats? What you wrote just doesnt make sense.

Muscles involved in the deadlift: Lower Back, Calves, Forearms, Glutes, Hamstrings, Lats, Middle Back, Quadriceps, Traps.
Squat: Quadriceps, Calves, Glutes, Hamstrings, Lower Back.
And if you say Power cleans only work the lower back I take it you haven't seen Decaf's back lol.

Keep up the good work Froadac
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 23 2011 22:13 GMT
#33
Thanks.

I'm going to the gym today to try and get them to lower their up front membership fee. It seems highly negotiable.
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