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xsquared
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
September 20 2011 23:26 GMT
#1
ok I want you guys to honestly answer me

am i the only one that feels like he is placed in the wrong league? i mean im in high gold, and im grateful ive made it this far, but honestly some of the people i plan, and even the ones who are favored against me, i just see so many holes in their play

im not saying that mine is perfect, i supply block, forget to expand, little harassment, etc but my opponents usually dont stand up to me at all. i have some diamond and masters friends, and when i play them, im always hit with tons of pressure, early to mid, most of which i can hold off, and when it gets into the lategame im faced with a 5 base vs my three or four. i feel alot better playing against higher ranked people, since you dont ever look at them and go 'wow wtf are they doing.'

maybe blizzard should let us play players from higher leagues more often, so we can rank up quicker

i'm mostly venting though, kinda pissed from the games ive played recently

*
go toss :)
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
September 20 2011 23:30 GMT
#2
Nope; I'm sure alot of people say the same thing. You can get some really stupid players in any league.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 23:32:11
September 20 2011 23:31 GMT
#3
If you're in the wrong league, you won't be there for long. If you're really better than your opponents, your MMR will rise and you'll be promoted. If you think you belong in Diamond or Master's, ladder more often.

For more information, and a very very good writeup on how the ladder works, check out
[G] Comprehensive Sc2 League and Ladder Guide
by Excalibur_Z
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
September 20 2011 23:32 GMT
#4
If you're constantly beating players, then you will end up playing better opponents. It's all based off of MMR, not necessarily league stuff. Just keep playing -- your opponents will be better.

Also, the time when you are playing may affect what kind of opponents are in the pool. Let's say you're playing during lunch time in PST. Your opponents in the NA time zones may still be in school or work, thus making your pool of perspective players lower.

I always feel that I end up playing more difficult opponents at night. But that just may be me. :p
I cook things! :3 | Twitter: @kierpanda | www.eatgamelive.com
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 20 2011 23:41 GMT
#5
Just keep playing games. In the long run it will auto correct itself and you WILL be in the right league.. (if its been like 100 games where your top gold and you still havnt been promoted, then your just actually a really really good for a gold player)
Jaedong.
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
September 21 2011 00:13 GMT
#6
So you don't like being matched up with people that are weaker than you but think you should be matched up with people that are much stronger than you?
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 00:19:17
September 21 2011 00:18 GMT
#7
I was top 8 masters S1 stopped playing got placed S2 played >60 games now im in diamond S3 and i actually thought it would be easy to go back to masters but i gotta say people are actually WAY better now and i rightfully belong in Diamond cause im not even top8 yet. My mechanics are rusty and my strategies back in the STONE age.


Im also slightly confused you say you always stomp people in your league but you want blizzard to allow people to play higher ranked people?
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 01:48:07
September 21 2011 01:47 GMT
#8
If you win games, youll play better people simple as that. The more wins you get, the more better people you will get matched up with.
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
September 21 2011 01:52 GMT
#9
If you're not good enough to rank up, it won't happen. Being a good play isn't only about having good build orders, solid macro, and positioning. It's about scouting, doing correct responses, unit control, multitasking. If you're solid in all these areas, you'd be ranking up quite fast, system flaw or not.
Kid-Fox
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada400 Posts
September 21 2011 02:02 GMT
#10
As I improve I'm starting to notice how awful all my opponents are. I'd be thinking "wow, how am I matched with this guy? he has like 17 scvs at 9 minutes." But then I realize I make more mistakes than these guys, like worse spending, worse micro, worse build order, worse army/minimap awareness. Master league is a long ways ahead for me T_T
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
September 21 2011 02:17 GMT
#11
Dude I barely think about this game at all, yet im playing masters and winning when I play toss, and doing worse when I off race, all the while messing around.

Gold ain't shit, and there's no such thing as high gold.....

Seriously you have much and more to learn young one.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
September 21 2011 02:20 GMT
#12
On September 21 2011 11:17 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Dude I barely think about this game at all, yet im playing masters and winning when I play toss, and doing worse when I off race, all the while messing around.

Gold ain't shit, and there's no such thing as high gold.....

Seriously you have much and more to learn young one.


rofl.

You're in masters. That's not very great either tbh.

Are you trying to say protoss is op ?


@ op

There's a lot of people with a lot of holes in their play in every league. And odds are these people got to their ranks by luck / cheese.

At higher levels, poor play simply doesn't hold up.

Just keep playing and you'll get your promotion.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
September 21 2011 02:29 GMT
#13
On September 21 2011 11:20 Vlare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 11:17 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Dude I barely think about this game at all, yet im playing masters and winning when I play toss, and doing worse when I off race, all the while messing around.

Gold ain't shit, and there's no such thing as high gold.....

Seriously you have much and more to learn young one.


rofl.

You're in masters. That's not very great either tbh.

Are you trying to say protoss is op ?


@ op

There's a lot of people with a lot of holes in their play in every league. And odds are these people got to their ranks by luck / cheese.

At higher levels, poor play simply doesn't hold up.

Just keep playing and you'll get your promotion.

His point was that masters wasn't that great.
But if you don't consider masters higher levels, than what is? Grandmaster? Code A?

Keep on playing and you will get promoted to where you should be, the system actually works out pretty well.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
September 21 2011 04:10 GMT
#14
AS DAY9 SAID....It's a measure of your progress!!!!
xsquared
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
September 22 2011 22:17 GMT
#15
On September 21 2011 09:13 mucker wrote:
So you don't like being matched up with people that are weaker than you but think you should be matched up with people that are much stronger than you?


i feel it is boring to play people weaker than me, unless im coaching them
go toss :)
xsquared
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
September 22 2011 22:18 GMT
#16
On September 21 2011 09:18 DreamChaser wrote:
I was top 8 masters S1 stopped playing got placed S2 played >60 games now im in diamond S3 and i actually thought it would be easy to go back to masters but i gotta say people are actually WAY better now and i rightfully belong in Diamond cause im not even top8 yet. My mechanics are rusty and my strategies back in the STONE age.


Im also slightly confused you say you always stomp people in your league but you want blizzard to allow people to play higher ranked people?


like i know they sometimes put us up against stronger players, but i dont feel its often enough; i want to play plat people more.
go toss :)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 22:20:57
September 22 2011 22:20 GMT
#17
On September 23 2011 07:17 xsquared wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 09:13 mucker wrote:
So you don't like being matched up with people that are weaker than you but think you should be matched up with people that are much stronger than you?


i feel it is boring to play people weaker than me, unless im coaching them


As you win, the system matches you against more and more skilled opponents. In the long run your win ratio will become 50/50 unless you're very close to the top of your server.

If you've played 100 games this season (which you should have by now), you're probably accurately rated unless you've in the past 20 or so games improved a great deal. Which means, you're playing against opponents with the same MMR as you-- they are at your skill level.

On September 23 2011 07:18 xsquared wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 09:18 DreamChaser wrote:
I was top 8 masters S1 stopped playing got placed S2 played >60 games now im in diamond S3 and i actually thought it would be easy to go back to masters but i gotta say people are actually WAY better now and i rightfully belong in Diamond cause im not even top8 yet. My mechanics are rusty and my strategies back in the STONE age.


Im also slightly confused you say you always stomp people in your league but you want blizzard to allow people to play higher ranked people?


like i know they sometimes put us up against stronger players, but i dont feel its often enough; i want to play plat people more.


To play against plat people more, play more and win more. That's all you need to do.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
September 22 2011 22:28 GMT
#18
I AGREE

even though i feel like a suck alot

but if blizzard let us play high-leagues all the time, the plats will see us as playing low leagues. the plats wanna play diamonds, the diamonds wanna play masters, etc etc. same as bronze wanna play silver and silver wanna play gold.

just practice your mechanics, dw about your league and eventually you'll rank up.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
xsquared
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
September 23 2011 21:14 GMT
#19
OMG THEY PLACED ME AGAINST THREE PLATS AND A GOLD TODAY :D
go toss :)
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
September 23 2011 21:27 GMT
#20
You gotta remember, those guys you play in plat might be on their way down into gold if you feel they are MUCH worse than you. At the same time you are probably just improving so they might only SEEM terrible compared to where you used to be =p
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