• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:39
CEST 02:39
KST 09:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!37Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
Best Games Kespa era Your past clans BW General Discussion ASL22 General Discussion Looking for old Team Micro Arena(TMA) Teammates
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Small VOD Thread 2.0 Escore Tournament - Season 3 BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Letting Off Steam Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7231 users

leagues

Blogs > xsquared
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
xsquared
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
September 20 2011 23:26 GMT
#1
ok I want you guys to honestly answer me

am i the only one that feels like he is placed in the wrong league? i mean im in high gold, and im grateful ive made it this far, but honestly some of the people i plan, and even the ones who are favored against me, i just see so many holes in their play

im not saying that mine is perfect, i supply block, forget to expand, little harassment, etc but my opponents usually dont stand up to me at all. i have some diamond and masters friends, and when i play them, im always hit with tons of pressure, early to mid, most of which i can hold off, and when it gets into the lategame im faced with a 5 base vs my three or four. i feel alot better playing against higher ranked people, since you dont ever look at them and go 'wow wtf are they doing.'

maybe blizzard should let us play players from higher leagues more often, so we can rank up quicker

i'm mostly venting though, kinda pissed from the games ive played recently

*
go toss :)
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
September 20 2011 23:30 GMT
#2
Nope; I'm sure alot of people say the same thing. You can get some really stupid players in any league.
Caster at IMBA.tv -- www.twitter.com/IMBAFiresilver -- www.youtube.com/FiresilverTV
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-20 23:32:11
September 20 2011 23:31 GMT
#3
If you're in the wrong league, you won't be there for long. If you're really better than your opponents, your MMR will rise and you'll be promoted. If you think you belong in Diamond or Master's, ladder more often.

For more information, and a very very good writeup on how the ladder works, check out
[G] Comprehensive Sc2 League and Ladder Guide
by Excalibur_Z
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
kierpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States757 Posts
September 20 2011 23:32 GMT
#4
If you're constantly beating players, then you will end up playing better opponents. It's all based off of MMR, not necessarily league stuff. Just keep playing -- your opponents will be better.

Also, the time when you are playing may affect what kind of opponents are in the pool. Let's say you're playing during lunch time in PST. Your opponents in the NA time zones may still be in school or work, thus making your pool of perspective players lower.

I always feel that I end up playing more difficult opponents at night. But that just may be me. :p
I cook things! :3 | Twitter: @kierpanda | www.eatgamelive.com
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 20 2011 23:41 GMT
#5
Just keep playing games. In the long run it will auto correct itself and you WILL be in the right league.. (if its been like 100 games where your top gold and you still havnt been promoted, then your just actually a really really good for a gold player)
Jaedong.
mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
September 21 2011 00:13 GMT
#6
So you don't like being matched up with people that are weaker than you but think you should be matched up with people that are much stronger than you?
It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 00:19:17
September 21 2011 00:18 GMT
#7
I was top 8 masters S1 stopped playing got placed S2 played >60 games now im in diamond S3 and i actually thought it would be easy to go back to masters but i gotta say people are actually WAY better now and i rightfully belong in Diamond cause im not even top8 yet. My mechanics are rusty and my strategies back in the STONE age.


Im also slightly confused you say you always stomp people in your league but you want blizzard to allow people to play higher ranked people?
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 01:48:07
September 21 2011 01:47 GMT
#8
If you win games, youll play better people simple as that. The more wins you get, the more better people you will get matched up with.
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
phiinix
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1169 Posts
September 21 2011 01:52 GMT
#9
If you're not good enough to rank up, it won't happen. Being a good play isn't only about having good build orders, solid macro, and positioning. It's about scouting, doing correct responses, unit control, multitasking. If you're solid in all these areas, you'd be ranking up quite fast, system flaw or not.
Kid-Fox
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada400 Posts
September 21 2011 02:02 GMT
#10
As I improve I'm starting to notice how awful all my opponents are. I'd be thinking "wow, how am I matched with this guy? he has like 17 scvs at 9 minutes." But then I realize I make more mistakes than these guys, like worse spending, worse micro, worse build order, worse army/minimap awareness. Master league is a long ways ahead for me T_T
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
September 21 2011 02:17 GMT
#11
Dude I barely think about this game at all, yet im playing masters and winning when I play toss, and doing worse when I off race, all the while messing around.

Gold ain't shit, and there's no such thing as high gold.....

Seriously you have much and more to learn young one.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Vlare
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
748 Posts
September 21 2011 02:20 GMT
#12
On September 21 2011 11:17 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Dude I barely think about this game at all, yet im playing masters and winning when I play toss, and doing worse when I off race, all the while messing around.

Gold ain't shit, and there's no such thing as high gold.....

Seriously you have much and more to learn young one.


rofl.

You're in masters. That's not very great either tbh.

Are you trying to say protoss is op ?


@ op

There's a lot of people with a lot of holes in their play in every league. And odds are these people got to their ranks by luck / cheese.

At higher levels, poor play simply doesn't hold up.

Just keep playing and you'll get your promotion.
Mass zerglings doesnt fail
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
September 21 2011 02:29 GMT
#13
On September 21 2011 11:20 Vlare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 11:17 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Dude I barely think about this game at all, yet im playing masters and winning when I play toss, and doing worse when I off race, all the while messing around.

Gold ain't shit, and there's no such thing as high gold.....

Seriously you have much and more to learn young one.


rofl.

You're in masters. That's not very great either tbh.

Are you trying to say protoss is op ?


@ op

There's a lot of people with a lot of holes in their play in every league. And odds are these people got to their ranks by luck / cheese.

At higher levels, poor play simply doesn't hold up.

Just keep playing and you'll get your promotion.

His point was that masters wasn't that great.
But if you don't consider masters higher levels, than what is? Grandmaster? Code A?

Keep on playing and you will get promoted to where you should be, the system actually works out pretty well.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
September 21 2011 04:10 GMT
#14
AS DAY9 SAID....It's a measure of your progress!!!!
xsquared
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
September 22 2011 22:17 GMT
#15
On September 21 2011 09:13 mucker wrote:
So you don't like being matched up with people that are weaker than you but think you should be matched up with people that are much stronger than you?


i feel it is boring to play people weaker than me, unless im coaching them
go toss :)
xsquared
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
September 22 2011 22:18 GMT
#16
On September 21 2011 09:18 DreamChaser wrote:
I was top 8 masters S1 stopped playing got placed S2 played >60 games now im in diamond S3 and i actually thought it would be easy to go back to masters but i gotta say people are actually WAY better now and i rightfully belong in Diamond cause im not even top8 yet. My mechanics are rusty and my strategies back in the STONE age.


Im also slightly confused you say you always stomp people in your league but you want blizzard to allow people to play higher ranked people?


like i know they sometimes put us up against stronger players, but i dont feel its often enough; i want to play plat people more.
go toss :)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 22:20:57
September 22 2011 22:20 GMT
#17
On September 23 2011 07:17 xsquared wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 09:13 mucker wrote:
So you don't like being matched up with people that are weaker than you but think you should be matched up with people that are much stronger than you?


i feel it is boring to play people weaker than me, unless im coaching them


As you win, the system matches you against more and more skilled opponents. In the long run your win ratio will become 50/50 unless you're very close to the top of your server.

If you've played 100 games this season (which you should have by now), you're probably accurately rated unless you've in the past 20 or so games improved a great deal. Which means, you're playing against opponents with the same MMR as you-- they are at your skill level.

On September 23 2011 07:18 xsquared wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 09:18 DreamChaser wrote:
I was top 8 masters S1 stopped playing got placed S2 played >60 games now im in diamond S3 and i actually thought it would be easy to go back to masters but i gotta say people are actually WAY better now and i rightfully belong in Diamond cause im not even top8 yet. My mechanics are rusty and my strategies back in the STONE age.


Im also slightly confused you say you always stomp people in your league but you want blizzard to allow people to play higher ranked people?


like i know they sometimes put us up against stronger players, but i dont feel its often enough; i want to play plat people more.


To play against plat people more, play more and win more. That's all you need to do.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
September 22 2011 22:28 GMT
#18
I AGREE

even though i feel like a suck alot

but if blizzard let us play high-leagues all the time, the plats will see us as playing low leagues. the plats wanna play diamonds, the diamonds wanna play masters, etc etc. same as bronze wanna play silver and silver wanna play gold.

just practice your mechanics, dw about your league and eventually you'll rank up.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
xsquared
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada55 Posts
September 23 2011 21:14 GMT
#19
OMG THEY PLACED ME AGAINST THREE PLATS AND A GOLD TODAY :D
go toss :)
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
September 23 2011 21:27 GMT
#20
You gotta remember, those guys you play in plat might be on their way down into gold if you feel they are MUCH worse than you. At the same time you are probably just improving so they might only SEEM terrible compared to where you used to be =p
LiquidDota Staff
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
16:00
CSLAN Day 1
Airneanach257
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech77
StarCraft: Brood War
Bale 13
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm221
League of Legends
Doublelift7693
JimRising 357
Counter-Strike
summit1g8435
minikerr55
Other Games
gofns22619
ToD268
RotterdaM87
Mew2King66
Trikslyr51
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick665
BasetradeTV224
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Response 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 13
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9h 21m
PiG Sty Festival
11h 21m
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
IPSL
15h 21m
OSC
23h 21m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 9h
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
1d 10h
The Patches Monday
1d 15h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
CSLAN 4
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.