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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 02 2011 09:34 GMT
#61
No, who says two eSports can't live alongside each other. It's just not possible that Dota2 will come along and sweep everybody's attention away from SC2 to the point where SC2 will crumble. I don't think theres any recorded instance of this either in eSports history, feel free to correct me ^_^
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
September 02 2011 09:43 GMT
#62
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42383 Posts
September 02 2011 09:50 GMT
#63
On September 02 2011 18:43 zeru wrote:
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On September 02 2011 16:32 Highways wrote:
Blizzard DotA will kill DotA 2 lol.

Not a big Dota fan, but the caster at the first Dota 2 tournament was insane! Does anyone know his name?

I think you are talking about tobi-wan, almost a bit korean style casting, where you can actually hear the real excitement in his voice.


I agree. First time ever i had the feeling that i have when i'm watching broodwar with korean commentators. To some it might be irritating but i like it.

But no, DOTA 2 won't "kill" SC2. Two totally different games. I love both games though, and i will be following both.
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lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
September 02 2011 11:35 GMT
#64
On September 02 2011 10:41 jimbob615 wrote:
dota is so boring to watch as a neutral... it is already dead. its like cs 1.6. i'll admit i loved watching cs 1.6 back in the day, but its because i played. to a neutral its boring as hell. same as this game.

sc2 has potential to be big because even a complete noob can relate to big armies colliding with eachother and watching huge battles. its like watching a war. dota is just fantasy crap which people cannot relate to at all without being a hardcore player.



sc is so boring to watch as a neutral.. i'll admit i loved watching sc back in the day, but its because i played. to a neutral its boring as hell. same as this game.

dota2 has potential to be big because even a complete noob can relate to heroes colliding with each other and watching one on one combat. its like watching wrestling. sc is just sci-fi crap which people cannot relate to at all without being a hardcore player

None of what you said is actually relevant to dota. Maybe if you cited difficulty in understanding what's going on, what heroes do, why people are or aren't pushing, I'd get behind it.

I find starcraft boring as hell to watch, because I don't understand it well enough. I can appreciate the clever maneouvers, but I don't get any of the bigger issues.

Watch a stream and ask questions, or an actually decent commentator.
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 12:29:23
September 02 2011 12:28 GMT
#65
I think it´s a bit shortsighted to say that starcraft will be unaffected just because it´s an RTS and dota is a different genre. Ask any old wc3 fan what dota did to the wc3 battle net =p
From personal experience, the acquaintancies that normally play wow or consoles or portal etc that picked up starcraft 2 because it was the newest blizzard game (the types of people that are making s2 so massive at the moment) they are all planning on switching to dota2 the second it´s released.
But sc2 was never going to sustain the huge mainstream following it has right now anyway, bw too was huuge for a year or three after it´s release before it started to die down a bit as people moved on to different games, the same will happen to sc2 and dota2 will speed up that process. The people remaining will be the slightly more competetive people who really like the game for the game itself and not because it´s a shiny new blizzard game.
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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 02 2011 13:49 GMT
#66
Isn't a major amount of Dota's followers China?

If so I doubt it'll hurt SC too much maybe the growing China community takes a hit.
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
September 02 2011 13:52 GMT
#67
What a troll post lol... Sports can co-exist y'know? Look at the fighting-game community, it's completely isolated from the rest of the esport community (almost at least) yet it thrives nonetheless.
CBNMystery
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada25 Posts
September 02 2011 14:51 GMT
#68
I believe that sc2 will survive dota 2 because the difference in the games is huge. We may lose a few players in the first month or so but they will gradually come back due to the difference in games.
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ssi.bal-listic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States568 Posts
September 02 2011 15:13 GMT
#69
i play dota and sc2 and I follow both competitive scenes. It doesn't bother me at all
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Tomfour
Profile Joined September 2010
United States173 Posts
September 02 2011 15:16 GMT
#70
Not at all. If any game is the end of SC2, it's going be Diablo 3, and when I say "the end of SC2" I only mean how many people play online. The competitive scene definitely won't die as a result of any games coming out anytime soon.

The thing about Dota 2 vs SC2 is that Dota2, I'm assuming will be like the original Dota. What I mean by that is that it will still be very difficult to play, and will in a certain degree be like how if SC2 was harder to play like BW, which SC2 isn't. So the thing that's nice about SC2 is it's extremely easy to follow and play from a casual standpoint.

I've watched some of the Dota2 tournaments, and I've been very impressed. The only thing I can say is that it's kind of hard to follow, and the games are much much longer. I know people have done analysis of BW game length vs SC2, but an hour game length for Dota2 is very common. I'm not sure that's very good for a competitive scene because people just straight up can't and won't devote that much time to it on as regular of a basis as they do for SC2, where an entire series will probably be over in that time.

Just the length of games makes it so hard for it to be a competitive game. Although I didn't watch the LoL stream at the past MLG, I imagine live tournaments won't be able to be much bigger(4 teams I think it was) than that just do to how long games are.

So people will definitely play it, myself included, but the people who are into SC2 right now aren't going to stop watching and give up SC2 for it.
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