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Will SC2 survive DOTA 2? - Page 3
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dotamaster
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On September 02 2011 11:12 Geovu wrote: My Experience: -Nearly 10 minutes selecting characters -Horrible mics for the casters, the clipping hurt my ears so bad I have to turn the volume way down to the point where I can't hear anything. -Virtually no team colors, can't tell wtf is going on in battles b/c of thiss -The way everyone moves their characters just pisses me off. It's everyone is a mentally retarded old guy on speed walking in circles, back and forth, jerking around everywhere. -The map is too big to tell what is fucking going on -It is over a fucking hour long. And not in a good way, like Rain vs Boxer. If that's the best you can do then you have confirmed my suspicion: The game is utter shit to watch. On a different note tho: How/why are the graphics so cool looking? I thought dota ran through Warcraft III, which obviously has fairly dated graphics and no widescreen support. I'm a noob, don't laugh at me :o People that have never played BW or SC2 would think the exact same goddamned thing as you are. Just because you don't understand the game doesn't mean it's "shit to watch". Apparently hundreds of thousands of people disagree with you. Why are there so much mindless posts in the forums lately? | ||
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TerraTron
Canada137 Posts
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
In SC2. it's 3 races, >15 units each, sure their are subtleties that most won't understand but it's easier to understand flamethrower dune buggies burning little dogs than Dota. Also, I've invested so much of my time into SC2 I'm not likely to jump ship (doubtful I'll have time to watch both), and many TL'er I feel are the same way. But I nevertheless hope Dota 2 develops a big following, for ESPORTS. That said, I don't see MOBA in ESPORTS, only RTS. | ||
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MrDonkeyBong
Canada103 Posts
On September 02 2011 10:05 jdseemoreglass wrote: I've never even played or seen dota in my life, and I'm a huge gamer. Actually, I don't know any other gamers who even play the game... So at this time it's impossible for me to consider it competition with SC2. You can give stats if you want, I'm just saying from personal experience the game is really nonexistent for me. Yeah this is pretty much the deal for me as well SC2 will do fine | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On September 02 2011 11:12 Geovu wrote: My Experience: -Nearly 10 minutes selecting characters -Horrible mics for the casters, the clipping hurt my ears so bad I have to turn the volume way down to the point where I can't hear anything. -Virtually no team colors, can't tell wtf is going on in battles b/c of thiss -The way everyone moves their characters just pisses me off. It's everyone is a mentally retarded old guy on speed walking in circles, back and forth, jerking around everywhere. -The map is too big to tell what is fucking going on -It is over a fucking hour long. And not in a good way, like Rain vs Boxer. If that's the best you can do then you have confirmed my suspicion: The game is utter shit to watch. On a different note tho: How/why are the graphics so cool looking? I thought dota ran through Warcraft III, which obviously has fairly dated graphics and no widescreen support. I'm a noob, don't laugh at me :o You could come up with very similar complaints about SC2. You're blatant bias obviously had you against DotA from the beginning. | ||
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Hakker
United States1360 Posts
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John Madden
American Samoa894 Posts
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
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xVoiid
Canada199 Posts
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Mobius_1
United Kingdom2763 Posts
On September 02 2011 12:33 Hakker wrote: Dota2 will probably overtake SC2 in china philipines brazil etc. where dota/LoL is already big. Dota really never was an esport anywhere else except for sweden maybe, even then it was less popular than CS and the proscene was virtually nonexistent in NA/KR I think that will depend a lot on how accessible Dota2 is to play at internet cafes and with friends. That is one of the faults of SC2, being that it is not a game you can just go to a PC bang and play. You need a Bnet account, pay for time, and same with friends you want to play with. WC3 Dota is something that's been copied everywhere in China and at every PC bang, while LoL is free and SCBW essentially so as well. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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PetitCrabe
Canada410 Posts
Although I hope DOTA2 will do great as an esport, I don't think it will because I can see how boring it can be to watch. Unless you have regularly played most heroes and used most items, it can be overwhelming. People in this thread said it quite well, SC2 is 3 races with about less then 15 units each. For an amateur, it`s easy to see that red army is kicking blue army`s ass. I hope in DOTA2, the commentators will take more time to explain the builds and strategies. I hope they say stuff like ``This hero is getting a perseverance for the hp/mana regen but can later transition into a battlefury or linken sphere'' In the tourny, they didnt say much. Whether DOTA2 becomes a great esport or not, it doesn't matter for me becasuse I know im going to have a blast playing it just as im having fun playing TF2 casually. | ||
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Sotamursu
Finland612 Posts
DotA isn't really noob friendly as most people know. The same also applies to casts. Most people who watch DotA have played it quite a bit so the casters won't explain basic stuff. Maybe if there's a caster like husky for dota2, people will change from sc2. | ||
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dotamaster
104 Posts
But as a spectator sport, it does have suffer a "watchability" problem. How can Valve make up for it? Make the game more accessible than Warcraft 3 / Starcraft 2. While Starcraft 2 is easy to learn and hard to master. DotA is quite hard to get into. It takes months for a person to get decent. (Need to know more than a hundred units, over 400 abilities, dozens of items, different builds, etc.) | ||
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Hakker
United States1360 Posts
On September 02 2011 15:46 dotamaster wrote: Dota can be extremely fun to play. But as a spectator sport, it does have suffer a "watchability" problem. How can Valve make up for it? Make the game more accessible than Warcraft 3 / Starcraft 2. While Starcraft 2 is easy to learn and hard to master. DotA is quite hard to get into. It takes months for a person to get decent. (Need to know more than a hundred units, over 400 abilities, dozens of items, different builds, etc.) What do you mean by more accessible? For example, LoL is by far more accessible to new players than Dora/hon, but at the same time most hardcore players hate it for that fact alone. | ||
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Apex
United States7226 Posts
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Highways
Australia6098 Posts
Not a big Dota fan, but the caster at the first Dota 2 tournament was insane! Does anyone know his name? | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Venus.exe
United States285 Posts
meh. I'll watch both if I liked Dota2 also  | ||
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