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Teaching English Overseas Help - coL.Ryan

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RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 22:44:21
August 29 2011 22:28 GMT
#1
Hello my dear, dear, TL friends!

I come to you all requesting some aid! Some of you may know me as a featured streamer, player on compLexity Gaming, having awesome hair, or helping out in the "Simple Questions, Simple Answers" thread with my shiny blue post. Some of you may not know who I am (I don't blame you, I wouldn't watch me play either. Just listen to my rad music. It's good. I promise.)

Anyway, as some of you may know (my loyal stream watchers!), I recently graduated with a Bachelor's degree in Psychology from the University of New Hampshire, and am currently going for my Masters in Elementary Education so I can be a teacher, as my interest lies primarily in working with children

However, it has become a goal/dream of mine to teach English overseas, preferably in Eastern Europe, but would go for any of Europe if it's possible. To those that will mention Asia as a possible choice of business, I have already been in contact with 1 person in China, 1 in South Korea, and 1 in Thailand all with job opportunities, but honestly have no desire to go to an Asiatic country to teach English.

Therefore, I was wondering if anyone, Europeans or Americans that have had some foreign experience regarding teaching/volunteering/whatever, could please drop some knowledge on this poor fool regarding how to go about finding a job in Europe.

I will have my Masters in Education, so I won't need a TeFL certificate or whatever it is called, and as of May of 2012 will be eligible for a teaching position for the following school year.

If ANYONE could please give me some advice/suggestions/whatever that could be incredibly helpful and I'd be totally thankful!

Love,
Ryan "coL.Ryan" Rushia

*****
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
August 29 2011 22:30 GMT
#2
Dave's ESL Cafe
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
August 29 2011 22:32 GMT
#3
On August 30 2011 07:30 StutteR wrote:
Dave's ESL Cafe


totally thought this was a troll until i googled it, thanks so much for the advice!
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
berserkboar
Profile Joined June 2011
114 Posts
August 29 2011 22:42 GMT
#4
sorry i dont know of any but gl mister ryan ^^ enjoy your life
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RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
August 29 2011 22:45 GMT
#5
On August 30 2011 07:42 berserkboar wrote:
sorry i dont know of any but gl mister ryan ^^ enjoy your life


<3 not a problem the response much appreciated
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
August 29 2011 22:48 GMT
#6
teach me engrish pls, i teach u pick up girls, yes?
Beefwipe
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom56 Posts
August 29 2011 22:50 GMT
#7
My friend is looking into it at the moment as her sister is in Korea doing the teaching english thing and has been for a fair few years now. I'm not sure personally how to go about it exactly, but I'm sure Spain would be a good place for it.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
August 29 2011 22:52 GMT
#8
@Antimage: victor you need to learn to pick up girls first for that to be a fair deal

@beefwip: thanks for the heads up i'll be sure to check it out
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
August 29 2011 23:40 GMT
#9
hey bebe. i'll send this thread to my mom. she's an elementary school teacher and she has experience in exchange programs. i know that you're not looking for exchange but regardless, she has experience and might be able to help in one way or another.

germany has good beer but i know that's not quite what you need. but i know you well enough <3
+ Show Spoiler +
there also is a lot of very, very girly beer <3
@nowSimon
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
August 29 2011 23:48 GMT
#10
On August 30 2011 08:40 drooL wrote:
hey bebe. i'll send this thread to my mom. she's an elementary school teacher and she has experience in exchange programs. i know that you're not looking for exchange but regardless, she has experience and might be able to help in one way or another.

germany has good beer but i know that's not quite what you need. but i know you well enough <3
+ Show Spoiler +
there also is a lot of very, very girly beer <3


tempted... girly drinks ARE the best

wow that sounds great simon thanks so much! would be great to hear from her
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
August 29 2011 23:58 GMT
#11
On August 30 2011 08:48 RyanRushia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 08:40 drooL wrote:
hey bebe. i'll send this thread to my mom. she's an elementary school teacher and she has experience in exchange programs. i know that you're not looking for exchange but regardless, she has experience and might be able to help in one way or another.

germany has good beer but i know that's not quite what you need. but i know you well enough <3
+ Show Spoiler +
there also is a lot of very, very girly beer <3


tempted... girly drinks ARE the best

wow that sounds great simon thanks so much! would be great to hear from her


would be great to have you over here for sure :D
@nowSimon
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
August 30 2011 00:31 GMT
#12
My bro went to Korea two years in a row here, talking to teachers at the schools each time, and the first time it was with a decent school.

And the 2nd time he followed his recruiters advice and is now stuck at a terrible school for 9 months with a bad principal.

Do your research, the flow of information is censored.
Support your esport!
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 00:53:45
August 30 2011 00:47 GMT
#13
On August 30 2011 07:32 RyanRushia wrote:
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On August 30 2011 07:30 StutteR wrote:
Dave's ESL Cafe


totally thought this was a troll until i googled it, thanks so much for the advice!


That place is garbage, don't bother. Absolutely bottom of the barrel. Also totally Asia focused.

If you have a masters in education then you can teach at an international school anywhere in the world. You are not pigeon-holed into being an ESL teacher like those with BA in something else. If you want to be an ESL teacher, great, but the opportunities and pay are much better at international schools.

Your best bet is to find a teaching job fair, invest the money to go, and see all your options in one place. If you have a good masters then you could walk out of there with work.

For reference, I have a masters in TESOL and have worked in Japan for 6+ years. My best friend has his BA in education and works as a PE teacher at an international school in Korea. His wage crushes mine. He is moving on the the middle east shortly.
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Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 01:01:31
August 30 2011 01:00 GMT
#14
How much higher can you get than masters of English at a US University? I don't think you should ask the question here, there are better forums (collegeconfidential is very education oriented), but I was always under the assumption that good English teachers were more valuable abroad than doctors are here.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
August 30 2011 11:00 GMT
#15
On August 30 2011 09:47 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 07:32 RyanRushia wrote:
On August 30 2011 07:30 StutteR wrote:
Dave's ESL Cafe


totally thought this was a troll until i googled it, thanks so much for the advice!


That place is garbage, don't bother. Absolutely bottom of the barrel. Also totally Asia focused.

If you have a masters in education then you can teach at an international school anywhere in the world. You are not pigeon-holed into being an ESL teacher like those with BA in something else. If you want to be an ESL teacher, great, but the opportunities and pay are much better at international schools.

Your best bet is to find a teaching job fair, invest the money to go, and see all your options in one place. If you have a good masters then you could walk out of there with work.

For reference, I have a masters in TESOL and have worked in Japan for 6+ years. My best friend has his BA in education and works as a PE teacher at an international school in Korea. His wage crushes mine. He is moving on the the middle east shortly.


Great, thanks so much for the information Manifesto, will certainly check out international school opportunities! much appreciated
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
August 30 2011 12:31 GMT
#16
Dave's ESL Cafe is a haven for crooks and shysters. If you're getting your masters in education you're quite above the kind of people that need to rely on that site for jobs.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
SavannahDaras
Profile Joined August 2011
United States4 Posts
August 30 2011 12:58 GMT
#17
On August 30 2011 08:48 RyanRushia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 08:40 drooL wrote:
hey bebe. i'll send this thread to my mom. she's an elementary school teacher and she has experience in exchange programs. i know that you're not looking for exchange but regardless, she has experience and might be able to help in one way or another.

germany has good beer but i know that's not quite what you need. but i know you well enough <3
+ Show Spoiler +
there also is a lot of very, very girly beer <3


tempted... girly drinks ARE the best

wow that sounds great simon thanks so much! would be great to hear from her


You love my girly drinks the most Ryan ;D.
Best of luck on your teaching journey, I think it's very admirable.
"When the moon fell in love with the sun, all was golden in the sky." | twitter.com/savannahdaras | www.savannahdaras.com | Damncats <3
VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
August 30 2011 15:03 GMT
#18
Dude.. Why go overseas? There are PLENTY of people right here in the states that can't speak english for shit. Instead of flying abroad and doing all that junk, just take a road trip to LA. lol <3
Why?
Shnur
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada42 Posts
August 30 2011 17:53 GMT
#19
So I spoke with my girlfriend, she will be following a similar path.

Currently we are mainly looking at South Korea, I mean it would be awesome for both of us. Otherwise, two of her friends got something through the university itself. Some other guy had some friend connections.

Basically I think you should ask around you school and see what internship options they offer abroad, I don't know how strong that idea is in the US, but here in Canada we have quite some easy time and options to do so.

Most universities have links and connections with other locations in the world.

Good luck and make sure you report back here when you have some news
SCV's defy gravity.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
August 30 2011 20:18 GMT
#20
On August 31 2011 00:03 VTArlock wrote:
Dude.. Why go overseas? There are PLENTY of people right here in the states that can't speak english for shit. Instead of flying abroad and doing all that junk, just take a road trip to LA. lol <3


Cause the whole point is i WANT to go abroad
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
strak
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1 Post
August 31 2011 06:33 GMT
#21
I note that in the original post you indicated that you want to go to Eastern Europe. Check out www.footprintsrecruiting.com as they have a program for Georgia in Eastern Europe. They also have programs to Korea. I did it there for 5 years and had an absolute ball. Even as a certified teacher Korea was a fantastic choice because it was a holiday compared to life in an international school. Don't get me wrong, I worked hard but it's different. As a teacher you'll know what I mean when you get wherever you are going. Footprints was great for me.
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 09:18:24
September 09 2011 16:17 GMT
#22
edit: figured out what i'm doing!
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
September 09 2011 17:47 GMT
#23
I know in the UK at least, and much of Western Europe as well it is becoming much more difficult for non-EU citizens to gain work visas as we are currently capping the number of skilled migrants that are allowed to enter the UK each year. For this reason it may be beneficial for you to accept a job at a company which will sponsor you for a visa, even if it would not be your first choice, because it will make it so much easier to find a job once you already have a work visa. This may not be true, but an American friend of mine and I were discussing this and he said that he could see it as being one way people could find better jobs as companies are much more willing to employ those who already have a visa.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
September 09 2011 18:29 GMT
#24
Just a thought but since for some reason you want to go to [i]Eastern[/] Europe you could probably talk to the NewRoSoft guys (Ranged) and see if they can hook you up with accomodation while you hunt for a job. They could also offer some insight as to the reality of the east... lol
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