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danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
August 28 2011 15:05 GMT
#1
Hey TL. I know a lot of you guys play the guitar and I need your help. I'm a complete beginner looking to buy an electric guitar. My range is about $500 for the guitar and an amp. Can you guys recommend me a good guitar and amp for that price? I have a small bass guitar amp, can I use that amp or do I have to buy a new one? If I can use that amp then I won't need to a buy a new one and all of the $500 will be used solely on the guitar. Post pics too please, Thanks!

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6d.Leek
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States76 Posts
August 28 2011 15:37 GMT
#2
Trying to help you narrow it down...what style do you plan on playing? Jazz? Rock? Pop?
I feel the same way about disco as I do herpes.
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
August 28 2011 15:44 GMT
#3
I'll be closely watching this thread... I need this advice as well
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
August 28 2011 15:47 GMT
#4
On August 29 2011 00:37 6d.Leek wrote:
Trying to help you narrow it down...what style do you plan on playing? Jazz? Rock? Pop?


I plan on playing rock. Are there different type of guitars for different genres? Does it make a big difference? If so, how?
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ticktack
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates874 Posts
August 28 2011 15:52 GMT
#5
Any starter guitar packs are fine if you're a beginner. They usually have an amp, guitar picks, the cable and a case for a really cheap price. Theyre not the best amps but its good enough until you get really good. Yamaha has one of these and a lot of other guitar brands do too.
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danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
August 28 2011 15:55 GMT
#6
On August 29 2011 00:52 ticktack wrote:
Any starter guitar packs are fine if you're a beginner. They usually have an amp, guitar picks, the cable and a case for a really cheap price. Theyre not the best amps but its good enough until you get really good. Yamaha has one of these and a lot of other guitar brands do too.


Aren't the quality of those guitars kind of low? I understand why a beginner should start with a cheaper guitar but I plan to use this one for a loooong time before I buy another one so I rather buy a fairly decent one and keep it for a while
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xalo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Peru80 Posts
August 28 2011 15:58 GMT
#7
Ibanez RG350DX or Ibanez RG 370, i think those are below 400 bucks..
HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 16:05:50
August 28 2011 16:04 GMT
#8
My first guitar was an Epiphone Les Paul Special II; great quality, good price, and not your typical shitty starter strat or something. I resolved to get something that didn't suck so I couldn't blame my "crappy guitar" as I learned. I got a simple 15 W Fender amp (you really don't need a whole lot in the amp category to start things off). Later I grabbed a Digitech RP-250 multi effects pedal to start getting richer tones, but that'll only matter once you learn the basics.

I did my research before buying, and the Les Paul Special II consistently reviews well, from both websites and commentors on the internet. I've been using it for the past 3 or so years now, and I feel no need to pick up anything better for the time being. In fact, the only reason I can see myself going for something better is for pure vanity.

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Take your pick


Price ranges from 150-250. I picked up the whole thing, guitar, amp, picks, carrying case, strap, cable, guitar stand all for about 300 bucks. Pricier than a typical "kit" but a great guitar.

Here are some reviews
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danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 16:17:19
August 28 2011 16:14 GMT
#9
On August 29 2011 01:04 HawaiianPig wrote:
My first guitar was an Epiphone Les Paul Special II; great quality, good price, and not your typical shitty starter strat or something. I resolved to get something that didn't suck so I couldn't blame my "crappy guitar" as I learned. I got a simple 15 W Fender amp (you really don't need a whole lot in the amp category to start things off). Later I grabbed a Digitech RP-250 multi effects pedal to start getting richer tones, but that'll only matter once you learn the basics.

I did my research before buying, and the Les Paul Special II consistently reviews well, from both websites and commentors on the internet. I've been using it for the past 3 or so years now, and I feel no need to pick up anything better for the time being. In fact, the only reason I can see myself going for something better is for pure vanity.

[image loading]
Take your pick


Price ranges from 150-250. I picked up the whole thing, guitar, amp, picks, carrying case, strap, cable, guitar stand all for about 300 bucks. Pricier than a typical "kit" but a great guitar.

Here are some reviews


Thanks, will definitely check it out

edit: just out of curiosity, what color is yours?
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Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 16:46:55
August 28 2011 16:36 GMT
#10
I highly reccomend a Dean Vendetta. The model I have cost about 500 and its the best guitar I have ever played. I plays so smooth and nice, I have adjusted the action to make it insanely low. It is neck through as well (guitar is all one piece, no bolts or anything)

However since you need an amp, I would get a cheaper Vendetta and buy a 10 watt practice amp.

I also encourage you to go to any guitar store near you and just play a few guitars, figure out what body styles you are comfortable with.

Also if you get a Vendetta, get one with a fixed bridge not a floyd, It will be easier to learn with, and you can rest your palm on the bridge without it changing the sound.

I mainly play metal in dropped tuning but this guitar sounds great for anything and everything. I have had it in standard for a while before and have played some clean stuff on it which sounded good. For starting out your main concern should be how the guitar feels. How it plays, and how it sits in your lap, make sure it is comfortable.

I looked into it, and I am depressed that they don't make my exact guitar anymore, All the ones now are set neck (similar to neck through but not as good. Neck through is like making the CC at your nat, set is like making it your main and floating it.)

Also, the road runner hard case for strat bodies fits this guitar well. Let me know if you have any questions.

The only issue I have had is minor electrical stuff that I was able to fix with a little soldering.

Let me know if you have any questions. I am about to take some pictures of my actual guitar as well. I will upload them in a bit.

Let me know if you have any questions.

here are some links

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Vendetta on Dean website
http://www.deanguitars.com/vendetta_series.php

My exact guitar
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=386311437161&set=a.386310447161.167606.92020557161&type=1

blue one on the left.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150249807532162&set=a.454110242161.249497.92020557161&type=1&theater


http://www.guitarcenter.com/New-Gear.gc?internal=1&src=dean vendetta&Search.x=0&Search.y=0
gg wp
danmooj1
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1855 Posts
August 28 2011 16:47 GMT
#11
^ Thanks for the info. appreciate it

There's a guitar center near by so I'll probably go there to check out the guitars listed in this thread.

Is that your band btw? You should make a thread and post some of your music!
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HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
August 28 2011 16:48 GMT
#12
On August 29 2011 01:14 danmooj1 wrote:
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On August 29 2011 01:04 HawaiianPig wrote:
My first guitar was an Epiphone Les Paul Special II; great quality, good price, and not your typical shitty starter strat or something. I resolved to get something that didn't suck so I couldn't blame my "crappy guitar" as I learned. I got a simple 15 W Fender amp (you really don't need a whole lot in the amp category to start things off). Later I grabbed a Digitech RP-250 multi effects pedal to start getting richer tones, but that'll only matter once you learn the basics.

I did my research before buying, and the Les Paul Special II consistently reviews well, from both websites and commentors on the internet. I've been using it for the past 3 or so years now, and I feel no need to pick up anything better for the time being. In fact, the only reason I can see myself going for something better is for pure vanity.

[image loading]
Take your pick


Price ranges from 150-250. I picked up the whole thing, guitar, amp, picks, carrying case, strap, cable, guitar stand all for about 300 bucks. Pricier than a typical "kit" but a great guitar.

Here are some reviews


Thanks, will definitely check it out

edit: just out of curiosity, what color is yours?


Black
AdministratorNot actually Hawaiian.
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 17:01:34
August 28 2011 16:54 GMT
#13
On August 29 2011 01:04 HawaiianPig wrote:
My first guitar was an Epiphone Les Paul Special II; great quality, good price, and not your typical shitty starter strat or something. I resolved to get something that didn't suck so I couldn't blame my "crappy guitar" as I learned. I got a simple 15 W Fender amp (you really don't need a whole lot in the amp category to start things off). Later I grabbed a Digitech RP-250 multi effects pedal to start getting richer tones, but that'll only matter once you learn the basics.

I did my research before buying, and the Les Paul Special II consistently reviews well, from both websites and commentors on the internet. I've been using it for the past 3 or so years now, and I feel no need to pick up anything better for the time being. In fact, the only reason I can see myself going for something better is for pure vanity.

[image loading]
Take your pick


Price ranges from 150-250. I picked up the whole thing, guitar, amp, picks, carrying case, strap, cable, guitar stand all for about 300 bucks. Pricier than a typical "kit" but a great guitar.

Here are some reviews

Bad advice to be honest. Les paul guitars are known for heavy, klunky, unergonomical body and thick hard to play neck, bad high fret access. strats&superstrats are invariably significantly more comfortable to play. Epiphone guitars too are not especially cost effective - small firms like agile and vintage produce much more bang for buck. IE a 100euro vintage has golden wilkinson hardware and pickups, mahogany body and mahogany set neck with reasonable setup, Epiphone axes are nowhere near as cost effective.

and tone wise the most efficient method is buying an external sound card like m-audio and using it for input & VST effects in a DAW. Great for a recording follow up as well.

This is important because if you actually want a rock tone - you will not get anything remotely similar to that from a cheapo amp, especially with the crappy pickups that epiphone low end axes tend to have.
Ulfsark
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 17:18:54
August 28 2011 17:14 GMT
#14
On August 29 2011 01:47 danmooj1 wrote:
^ Thanks for the info. appreciate it

There's a guitar center near by so I'll probably go there to check out the guitars listed in this thread.

Is that your band btw? You should make a thread and post some of your music!



No problem man, Most Deans are really good, except for the ones with spikey body shapes haha.

Yeah just go to the guitar center, pick a few up and see how they feel. Keep in mind most guitars there are probably out of tune. I encourage you to play as many guitars as possible.

Also guitars NEVER sell for "list price" My guitar was like 900 list price, but the most I have ever seen it for was $550. Just keep that in mind so you don't think your getting a huge deal when you aren't

Yes it is my band, Most people probably wouldn't like it haha, but maybe, if you want to hear I can send you a link.

Also when I play I rest my palm on the bridge and anchor my pinky on the bridge pickup. I think you can see it in one of the pics I posted earlier. I do that because it keeps my right hand in the same spot and it makes it more consistent and it just feels awesome haha. I can't play guitars where I can't do that nearly as well, I am just so used to it.

Here are some pics of my guitar. They don't make it exactly but it should give you a basic idea of the Vendetta.

Warning: I suck at taking pictures.
I tried to clean the pickups quickly before taking this since I haven't done so in a while but I was lazy and didn't get under the strings well enough so that is why the pickups look weird.

Hope this helps man. You better post a blog once you get a guitar, no matter what kind you get.

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The Inlays

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The Bridge, I replaced the volume pot and the one i put in was too short so that is why I don't have a volume knob. If I bought a new one instead of salvaging one from an old guitar It would be normal, just so you know.

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Neck Through, omnomnomnom. This is where the bolts on most guitars would be. However this guitar has a smooth transition that fits in your hand perfectly.

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The body.

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Headstock, I like it, its different but not extreme.

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Two more body shots. (no foldouts sorry)

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gg wp
howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
August 28 2011 17:16 GMT
#15
someone already said ibanez rg, and I really really recommend it.

I bought it for my first guitar and it is extremely versatile, please don't buy your guitar just b/c it looks cool.
talleyhooo
Profile Joined February 2011
19 Posts
August 28 2011 17:48 GMT
#16
Hi There -- I have been playing guitar for about 12 years or so and actually disagree with what you are being told here (ppl seem to be just telling you to get their guitar). A guitar choice is very SUBJECTIVE and will vary depending on the person.

I would recommend you go to guitar center and just play on a lot of different guitars. Take your time.The first thing I would focus on is the neck... what type of guitar neck are you most comfortable playing on?

Once you pin that down, then start looking at specific brands / sounds. I have always liked the Fender Strat for a beginner guitar. You can get a Mexican strat for prob 300-400 dollars. But if you are more comfortable playing on a Gibson/Epiphone type neck, then look at those types. Basically get what is most comfortable FOR YOU.

I would focus on the guitar first and get a nicer amp later. If you check craigslist or pawn shops you may find a decent 65 watt combo amp for $100?? Otherwise just get a cheap starter amp and save up for a nicer one after you have gotten better at playing.

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CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
August 28 2011 17:49 GMT
#17
On August 29 2011 01:04 HawaiianPig wrote:
My first guitar was an Epiphone Les Paul Special II; great quality, good price, and not your typical shitty starter strat or something. I resolved to get something that didn't suck so I couldn't blame my "crappy guitar" as I learned. I got a simple 15 W Fender amp (you really don't need a whole lot in the amp category to start things off). Later I grabbed a Digitech RP-250 multi effects pedal to start getting richer tones, but that'll only matter once you learn the basics.


I got a shitty starter strat, patch cord, and 10" amp for $119 bucks when I started. Served me quite well
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 28 2011 17:57 GMT
#18
imo it's better to buy a cheaper guitar to start out (cause when you're starting out, it really doesn't matter how "good" your guitar is... as long as it's working and isn't total junk). if you decide to stick with it and get better, then think about getting a good guitar. but if you decide to drop guitar, well you're only out $100 or whatever you pay
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 18:01:15
August 28 2011 18:00 GMT
#19
On August 29 2011 02:48 talleyhooo wrote:
Hi There -- I have been playing guitar for about 12 years or so and actually disagree with what you are being told here (ppl seem to be just telling you to get their guitar). A guitar choice is very SUBJECTIVE and will vary depending on the person.

I would recommend you go to guitar center and just play on a lot of different guitars. Take your time.The first thing I would focus on is the neck... what type of guitar neck are you most comfortable playing on?
+ Show Spoiler +

Once you pin that down, then start looking at specific brands / sounds. I have always liked the Fender Strat for a beginner guitar. You can get a Mexican strat for prob 300-400 dollars. But if you are more comfortable playing on a Gibson/Epiphone type neck, then look at those types. Basically get what is most comfortable FOR YOU.

I would focus on the guitar first and get a nicer amp later. If you check craigslist or pawn shops you may find a decent 65 watt combo amp for $100?? Otherwise just get a cheap starter amp and save up for a nicer one after you have gotten better at playing.


I don't think they have guitar centers in South Korea.


I have nothing but bad advice to give. My first guitar was acoustic and by the time I finally bought an electric I wasn't learning basics anymore.
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hellsan631
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 18:12:49
August 28 2011 18:04 GMT
#20
I recommend Ibanez, as most if not all manufactures, at that price, do a really terrible job at wiring.

Its all up to personal preference, but there are two things you should look for when buying a guitar.

First, go to a local guitar store, and grab a really expensive ibanez, and crank up an amp loud with lots of distortion. (use an ibanez jem)

You want to get a feel as to how a great guitar is wired. You should hear little to no background or "white" noise, when your not picking the strings. Of course there will be some, but in general, if your hand if off the guitar, then it should be fine.

Also, when testing a guitar, turn all the knobs a ton, from 100% to 0%, to make sure the guitar has good pots. there shouldn't be any pops or cracks when doing this.

Then, when you have an idea of what a good guitar sounds like, find a neck and weight that is best for you. If you have large hands, you may like the bigger necks. The thicker the next, the more tone you get from the guitar body.

Try the SG guitar shape, the LesPaul (these are very very heavy in general), the strat body shape, and make sure you also enjoy having the guitar rest on your leg. Make some scratching noises, maybe play a couple of power chords.

Always try more expensive guitars first, so you can get a good "benchmark"

Also, stay away from dean. I've never picked up a dean guitar that has had good internal wiring. Not even the most expensive models.
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