• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:52
CET 21:52
KST 05:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE!
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11038 users

Help me choose a guitar - Page 3

Blogs > danmooj1
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
August 29 2011 23:34 GMT
#41
On August 30 2011 04:47 Happy Juvia wrote:
Ughh, it hurts SOOOO MUCH when I hear people giving bad advice. PLEASE do not get any "www.rondomusic.com" deals especially not from copies of Les Pauls. they are really just putting their name on a piece of shit plank and selling it to people who don't know better. people think that if they don't like it, having not invested a lot will be okay. The difference is if you just get something slightly better, and you end up not liking it, there will be a better chance you can sell it, unlike the Agiles. And the biggest reason why you shouldn't get a SX or Douglas is that having a bad instrument will be harder to play with and sound worse, making it hard for you to stay committed.

One of the good things said in this thread is that the amp determines much more of your tone than the guitar. The actual guitar is important more for how it feels to play it and being stable as far as intonation etc.

For a cheap practice amp I would look at a Marshal MG50. These are modelling amps. They have decent tone and have pretty versatile settings. Lets you experiment.

If you want to spend a little more money, you can get my amp, a a Fender '59 Bassman Reissue. It's pretty cheap, and has the whole digital modeling thing for flexibility. But when you want tone, you can switch to the clean channel, which is VERY pure and VERY responsive. This is because part of this amp actually has real tubes in it as opposed to being full on digital. In addition, it does a REALLY good job of modeling spring reverb.

Lastly for your guitar I HIGHLY recommend checking out:

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0106200806

User was banned for this post.

You're banned, but seriously you're an idiot. The SX basses are well regarded on talkbass, and many of the Agile guitars are actually decent. Better than Epiphone and Squier in many cases. I've played some Agile guitars before and for their price range they are worth the money. They are low end stuff, obviously, but within the low end stuff they are great. For someone just picking up a guitar or bass without knowing anything I would recommend Agile without hesitation.

And a fucking Bassman reissue and an American Telecaster? For a beginner? That is WAY over what the OP asked for in price range and no goddamned beginner in the world needs an amp or guitar like that.
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
August 29 2011 23:40 GMT
#42
On August 30 2011 08:34 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 04:47 Happy Juvia wrote:
Ughh, it hurts SOOOO MUCH when I hear people giving bad advice. PLEASE do not get any "www.rondomusic.com" deals especially not from copies of Les Pauls. they are really just putting their name on a piece of shit plank and selling it to people who don't know better. people think that if they don't like it, having not invested a lot will be okay. The difference is if you just get something slightly better, and you end up not liking it, there will be a better chance you can sell it, unlike the Agiles. And the biggest reason why you shouldn't get a SX or Douglas is that having a bad instrument will be harder to play with and sound worse, making it hard for you to stay committed.

One of the good things said in this thread is that the amp determines much more of your tone than the guitar. The actual guitar is important more for how it feels to play it and being stable as far as intonation etc.

For a cheap practice amp I would look at a Marshal MG50. These are modelling amps. They have decent tone and have pretty versatile settings. Lets you experiment.

If you want to spend a little more money, you can get my amp, a a Fender '59 Bassman Reissue. It's pretty cheap, and has the whole digital modeling thing for flexibility. But when you want tone, you can switch to the clean channel, which is VERY pure and VERY responsive. This is because part of this amp actually has real tubes in it as opposed to being full on digital. In addition, it does a REALLY good job of modeling spring reverb.

Lastly for your guitar I HIGHLY recommend checking out:

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0106200806

User was banned for this post.

You're banned, but seriously you're an idiot. The SX basses are well regarded on talkbass, and many of the Agile guitars are actually decent. Better than Epiphone and Squier in many cases. I've played some Agile guitars before and for their price range they are worth the money. They are low end stuff, obviously, but within the low end stuff they are great. For someone just picking up a guitar or bass without knowing anything I would recommend Agile without hesitation.

And a fucking Bassman reissue and an American Telecaster? For a beginner? That is WAY over what the OP asked for in price range and no goddamned beginner in the world needs an amp or guitar like that.

I can vouch, Agile guitars are damn good, and dollar for dollar better than every other guitar in it's price range up to about the $1000 range (and even then it doesn't matter, their 1k dollar guitars are specialty 7/8/9 string guitars) and their only downside is that they are, however, beaten out by big names if price is not an issue. I have a hawker and I have yet to play a 300 dollar guitar with as few playability issues as this one (and all of the one issue I have is due to the fact that real floyd rose bridges are expensive, and once that's replaced there's not even a single problem.
R.I.P. 우정호 || Do probes dream of psionic sheep?
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
August 30 2011 00:13 GMT
#43
Seriously, don't get a tube amp for your first one, ignore that other guy -_-
The maintenance, cost and other shit you have to deal with just to make sure nothing blows up is NOT worth the mythical 'tube sound' that you will hear every rock/metal guitarist put onto a pedestal.

Just go to the store and test out all little/cheap combos, if you like the distortion sound, that is good enough.
Lordwar
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 23:15:02
August 31 2011 23:02 GMT
#44
On August 29 2011 01:54 Klaca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2011 01:04 HawaiianPig wrote:
My first guitar was an Epiphone Les Paul Special II; great quality, good price, and not your typical shitty starter strat or something. I resolved to get something that didn't suck so I couldn't blame my "crappy guitar" as I learned. I got a simple 15 W Fender amp (you really don't need a whole lot in the amp category to start things off). Later I grabbed a Digitech RP-250 multi effects pedal to start getting richer tones, but that'll only matter once you learn the basics.

I did my research before buying, and the Les Paul Special II consistently reviews well, from both websites and commentors on the internet. I've been using it for the past 3 or so years now, and I feel no need to pick up anything better for the time being. In fact, the only reason I can see myself going for something better is for pure vanity.

[image loading]
Take your pick


Price ranges from 150-250. I picked up the whole thing, guitar, amp, picks, carrying case, strap, cable, guitar stand all for about 300 bucks. Pricier than a typical "kit" but a great guitar.

Here are some reviews

Bad advice to be honest. Les paul guitars are known for heavy, klunky, unergonomical body and thick hard to play neck, bad high fret access. strats&superstrats are invariably significantly more comfortable to play. Epiphone guitars too are not especially cost effective - small firms like agile and vintage produce much more bang for buck. IE a 100euro vintage has golden wilkinson hardware and pickups, mahogany body and mahogany set neck with reasonable setup, Epiphone axes are nowhere near as cost effective.

and tone wise the most efficient method is buying an external sound card like m-audio and using it for input & VST effects in a DAW. Great for a recording follow up as well.

This is important because if you actually want a rock tone - you will not get anything remotely similar to that from a cheapo amp, especially with the crappy pickups that epiphone low end axes tend to have.

If you dont like les paul models, then its your problem. I know someone may prefer stratocasters but its an opinion thing. Recommending les pauls is not a bad advice by any means, you are wrong with that.

Also lespauls and stratocasters have their own good things. For an example lespauls often have better sustain and different, fuller sound because of fixed bridge, humbuckers, and set neck.
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
August 31 2011 23:11 GMT
#45
You have to go try a bunch out in a store and get a feel for what you like. As long as you don't get some cheap thing that barely works, and you like it'll be fine. Especially for a first guitar.
One man's dream guitar could very well be viewed as incredibly bad by another.
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
02:00
NotSummer-Playoffs Replays
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 649
EmSc Tv 26
Nathanias 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 471
firebathero 110
White-Ra 103
ProTech45
Hyun 37
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1554
gobbtv298
allub106
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu673
Other Games
summit1g6291
tarik_tv5018
Grubby3308
singsing1493
FrodaN791
B2W.Neo482
Mlord443
C9.Mang0196
Pyrionflax130
ArmadaUGS112
syndereN93
UpATreeSC47
Trikslyr45
minikerr5
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL239
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 26
EmSc2Tv 26
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 36
• Reevou 16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix20
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1923
• Nemesis1861
Other Games
• Scarra641
• imaqtpie579
• Shiphtur496
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
4h 9m
Kung Fu Cup
14h 9m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
The PondCast
1d 13h
KCM Race Survival
1d 13h
OSC
1d 17h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
IPSL
3 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.