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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
August 29 2011 23:34 GMT
#41
On August 30 2011 04:47 Happy Juvia wrote:
Ughh, it hurts SOOOO MUCH when I hear people giving bad advice. PLEASE do not get any "www.rondomusic.com" deals especially not from copies of Les Pauls. they are really just putting their name on a piece of shit plank and selling it to people who don't know better. people think that if they don't like it, having not invested a lot will be okay. The difference is if you just get something slightly better, and you end up not liking it, there will be a better chance you can sell it, unlike the Agiles. And the biggest reason why you shouldn't get a SX or Douglas is that having a bad instrument will be harder to play with and sound worse, making it hard for you to stay committed.

One of the good things said in this thread is that the amp determines much more of your tone than the guitar. The actual guitar is important more for how it feels to play it and being stable as far as intonation etc.

For a cheap practice amp I would look at a Marshal MG50. These are modelling amps. They have decent tone and have pretty versatile settings. Lets you experiment.

If you want to spend a little more money, you can get my amp, a a Fender '59 Bassman Reissue. It's pretty cheap, and has the whole digital modeling thing for flexibility. But when you want tone, you can switch to the clean channel, which is VERY pure and VERY responsive. This is because part of this amp actually has real tubes in it as opposed to being full on digital. In addition, it does a REALLY good job of modeling spring reverb.

Lastly for your guitar I HIGHLY recommend checking out:

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0106200806

User was banned for this post.

You're banned, but seriously you're an idiot. The SX basses are well regarded on talkbass, and many of the Agile guitars are actually decent. Better than Epiphone and Squier in many cases. I've played some Agile guitars before and for their price range they are worth the money. They are low end stuff, obviously, but within the low end stuff they are great. For someone just picking up a guitar or bass without knowing anything I would recommend Agile without hesitation.

And a fucking Bassman reissue and an American Telecaster? For a beginner? That is WAY over what the OP asked for in price range and no goddamned beginner in the world needs an amp or guitar like that.
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
August 29 2011 23:40 GMT
#42
On August 30 2011 08:34 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 04:47 Happy Juvia wrote:
Ughh, it hurts SOOOO MUCH when I hear people giving bad advice. PLEASE do not get any "www.rondomusic.com" deals especially not from copies of Les Pauls. they are really just putting their name on a piece of shit plank and selling it to people who don't know better. people think that if they don't like it, having not invested a lot will be okay. The difference is if you just get something slightly better, and you end up not liking it, there will be a better chance you can sell it, unlike the Agiles. And the biggest reason why you shouldn't get a SX or Douglas is that having a bad instrument will be harder to play with and sound worse, making it hard for you to stay committed.

One of the good things said in this thread is that the amp determines much more of your tone than the guitar. The actual guitar is important more for how it feels to play it and being stable as far as intonation etc.

For a cheap practice amp I would look at a Marshal MG50. These are modelling amps. They have decent tone and have pretty versatile settings. Lets you experiment.

If you want to spend a little more money, you can get my amp, a a Fender '59 Bassman Reissue. It's pretty cheap, and has the whole digital modeling thing for flexibility. But when you want tone, you can switch to the clean channel, which is VERY pure and VERY responsive. This is because part of this amp actually has real tubes in it as opposed to being full on digital. In addition, it does a REALLY good job of modeling spring reverb.

Lastly for your guitar I HIGHLY recommend checking out:

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0106200806

User was banned for this post.

You're banned, but seriously you're an idiot. The SX basses are well regarded on talkbass, and many of the Agile guitars are actually decent. Better than Epiphone and Squier in many cases. I've played some Agile guitars before and for their price range they are worth the money. They are low end stuff, obviously, but within the low end stuff they are great. For someone just picking up a guitar or bass without knowing anything I would recommend Agile without hesitation.

And a fucking Bassman reissue and an American Telecaster? For a beginner? That is WAY over what the OP asked for in price range and no goddamned beginner in the world needs an amp or guitar like that.

I can vouch, Agile guitars are damn good, and dollar for dollar better than every other guitar in it's price range up to about the $1000 range (and even then it doesn't matter, their 1k dollar guitars are specialty 7/8/9 string guitars) and their only downside is that they are, however, beaten out by big names if price is not an issue. I have a hawker and I have yet to play a 300 dollar guitar with as few playability issues as this one (and all of the one issue I have is due to the fact that real floyd rose bridges are expensive, and once that's replaced there's not even a single problem.
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Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
August 30 2011 00:13 GMT
#43
Seriously, don't get a tube amp for your first one, ignore that other guy -_-
The maintenance, cost and other shit you have to deal with just to make sure nothing blows up is NOT worth the mythical 'tube sound' that you will hear every rock/metal guitarist put onto a pedestal.

Just go to the store and test out all little/cheap combos, if you like the distortion sound, that is good enough.
Lordwar
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland243 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 23:15:02
August 31 2011 23:02 GMT
#44
On August 29 2011 01:54 Klaca wrote:
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On August 29 2011 01:04 HawaiianPig wrote:
My first guitar was an Epiphone Les Paul Special II; great quality, good price, and not your typical shitty starter strat or something. I resolved to get something that didn't suck so I couldn't blame my "crappy guitar" as I learned. I got a simple 15 W Fender amp (you really don't need a whole lot in the amp category to start things off). Later I grabbed a Digitech RP-250 multi effects pedal to start getting richer tones, but that'll only matter once you learn the basics.

I did my research before buying, and the Les Paul Special II consistently reviews well, from both websites and commentors on the internet. I've been using it for the past 3 or so years now, and I feel no need to pick up anything better for the time being. In fact, the only reason I can see myself going for something better is for pure vanity.

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Price ranges from 150-250. I picked up the whole thing, guitar, amp, picks, carrying case, strap, cable, guitar stand all for about 300 bucks. Pricier than a typical "kit" but a great guitar.

Here are some reviews

Bad advice to be honest. Les paul guitars are known for heavy, klunky, unergonomical body and thick hard to play neck, bad high fret access. strats&superstrats are invariably significantly more comfortable to play. Epiphone guitars too are not especially cost effective - small firms like agile and vintage produce much more bang for buck. IE a 100euro vintage has golden wilkinson hardware and pickups, mahogany body and mahogany set neck with reasonable setup, Epiphone axes are nowhere near as cost effective.

and tone wise the most efficient method is buying an external sound card like m-audio and using it for input & VST effects in a DAW. Great for a recording follow up as well.

This is important because if you actually want a rock tone - you will not get anything remotely similar to that from a cheapo amp, especially with the crappy pickups that epiphone low end axes tend to have.

If you dont like les paul models, then its your problem. I know someone may prefer stratocasters but its an opinion thing. Recommending les pauls is not a bad advice by any means, you are wrong with that.

Also lespauls and stratocasters have their own good things. For an example lespauls often have better sustain and different, fuller sound because of fixed bridge, humbuckers, and set neck.
Meepman
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada610 Posts
August 31 2011 23:11 GMT
#45
You have to go try a bunch out in a store and get a feel for what you like. As long as you don't get some cheap thing that barely works, and you like it'll be fine. Especially for a first guitar.
One man's dream guitar could very well be viewed as incredibly bad by another.
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