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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
August 18 2011 21:06 GMT
#21
I've seen quite a few threads or blogs that basically contain about 30 people bashing on the OP, or viciously attacking a post they don't agree with. There are some nice people and some mean people, just like in any community. I guess in comparison TL is better than other communities, but I wouldn't say it's exactly nice... I've heard the BW section is much better though.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
August 18 2011 21:09 GMT
#22
I think Chill said it the best, the IRL community is what is amazing. If you have ever been to a Starcraft event, or tournament you will see the amount of really cool people. That is probably what Day[9] is talking about as well. The internet is the always going to be that place where people have no fear of what they say.
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Cofo
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1388 Posts
August 18 2011 21:11 GMT
#23
Yeah, most of the time "community" refers to Live events and/or TL. The community at large isn't amazing, but it's not the worst either. Try playing something like Dota/HoN/XboxLive/WoW and you'll see that we have it pretty good.
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6593 Posts
August 18 2011 21:12 GMT
#24
On August 19 2011 06:11 Cofo wrote:
Yeah, most of the time "community" refers to Live events and/or TL. The community at large isn't amazing, but it's not the worst either. Try playing something like Dota/HoN/XboxLive/WoW and you'll see that we have it pretty good.


wc3 in general. it wasn't even just DotA lol. But yeah I don't mind this community half as much as the ones that used to be on wcr =/
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
August 18 2011 21:23 GMT
#25
SC community is definitely nowhere near as unpleasant and venomous as LoL or some of the other communities I've seen in gaming.
lizzard_warish
Profile Joined June 2011
589 Posts
August 18 2011 21:29 GMT
#26
On August 19 2011 04:46 ComaDose wrote:
teamliquid is manner.
90% of players on ladder are not bad manner at least?

I think time will leave us with something better.
The heart is there.
Neither of those things are true...

I dont care if the community is respectful or not, but the OP is obviously correct in that the whole community is overwhelmingly NOT.
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
August 18 2011 21:44 GMT
#27
If you stay out of the General forum, that makes a very huge difference. You'll notice that most newer posters hang out there and a lot of vets post a lot less there now.
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
August 18 2011 21:46 GMT
#28
I don't find that many BM people, I've probably had less than 10 people BM me ever. People exaggerate it and eventually you begin to look for it. And don't say quitting without GGing is BM, it's just not as polite. Like many people above me have already said, go play DotA for the first time and you'll see how good this community is.
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stilez
Profile Joined November 2010
Mexico130 Posts
August 18 2011 21:47 GMT
#29
I guess you've never played FPS games then.
quirinus
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Croatia2489 Posts
August 18 2011 21:49 GMT
#30
Just look at ThorZain. I'm always amazed at his good manners. Unlike some other people, when he says gg wp congratulations, I believe he really means it. White-Ra too. It always feels warm around my heart when I see how respectful and well behaved they are.
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 18 2011 21:54 GMT
#31
Just go play any other game, you will quickly notice that TL is alot more awesome than any other mas played games.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
August 18 2011 22:09 GMT
#32
On August 19 2011 05:58 moose162 wrote:
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On August 19 2011 05:28 Swwww wrote:
These threads or blogs about the utopian internet are getting tiresome.... In the end what does it really matter, you are either entertained by it or you have some real growing up to do.

The internet is not a perfect world, just because you post on a board of generally well mannered people does not mean that they all are or that others will be. Zeal with....

It doesn't make a dent in my life one way or another. I'm just noting the inherent obstacle in promoting SC2 or E-Sports in general. That is, the fact that it's core is populated by internet identities. With internet identities comes volatility and a tendency for people to devolve into having prepubescent tendencies.


I don't know about you, but when I go watch a sporting event, there's a ton of BM assholes.
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 18 2011 22:10 GMT
#33
day9 comes across as such a genuinely nice guy who has been through it all and just loves starcraft that it takes a special kind of jerk (combat ez etc) to be a dick to him

he also doesnt wade into pointless internet debates which only serve to make people hate you, and never result in more fans.

so i can see why day9 thinks everyone is just super
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
August 18 2011 22:22 GMT
#34
Although it is considerably worse than it was before SC2 this is still one of the most mature gaming communities I have ever been a part of. I can only think of the Dofus community as being nicer, and that game had a really tiny community.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
Boodini
Profile Joined June 2011
3 Posts
August 18 2011 22:44 GMT
#35
Its easy to forget that these words and posts aren't just letters on a screen, but are actually thoughts and opinions of real people. I'm reminded of when Blizzard said they were going to force their WoW forum users to display the poster's real name, and how everyone got outraged that their identities would be compromised. Its a lot harder to be mean spirited when you remember that the person you're dealing with is also another human being. That's why live community events are better; you have to interact with other people face to face.

Its also hard to be genuinely funny, but sadly that doesn't stop most people from trying to come up with the wittiest response.
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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
August 18 2011 22:48 GMT
#36
On August 19 2011 07:44 Boodini wrote:
Its easy to forget that these words and posts aren't just letters on a screen, but are actually thoughts and opinions of real people. I'm reminded of when Blizzard said they were going to force their WoW forum users to display the poster's real name, and how everyone got outraged that their identities would be compromised. Its a lot harder to be mean spirited when you remember that the person you're dealing with is also another human being. That's why live community events are better; you have to interact with other people face to face.

Its also hard to be genuinely funny, but sadly that doesn't stop most people from trying to come up with the wittiest response.


I don't know for sure if you're making this statement or not, but the bolded part makes me think that you're arguing that people didn't like the real name idea because then they might feel like they're talking to a real person. Let me assure you this isn't the case. Facebook uses real names(most people do at least) and there's still plenty of assholes and arguing. People didn't want real names on Blizzard forums because of the potential for real life harassment and safety issues.
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 19 2011 00:06 GMT
#37
You should have seen the IEM LR thread

80% of the posts were shitting on Huk and EG
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 19 2011 00:22 GMT
#38
On August 19 2011 05:03 shawster wrote:
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On August 19 2011 04:42 moose162 wrote:
How many times have I heard Day9 utter something along those lines? Sure there are isolated incidents of awesomeness that stand out amidst a muck of spiteful behavior, but I can't help to think he's trying to promote an image that isn't even (t)here.

I'm talking about the abundance of BM that exists in our small, expanding, community. I get on ladder and am on the receiving end of all sorts of venting. Ok, so perhaps people get frustrated in game, especially at a high masters level of play where people take the game fairly seriously. But even on the forums I cannot escape the patronizing war of words.

It seems to be less abundant at the highest levels of play, but it's still there. Why do the cast of State of the Game have to have their every word scrutinized? They wonder the same thing. And yet they co-host with Idra, who doesn't refrain from laughing when talking about Drewbie going to Korea?

Not everyone can be Sheth. But then I realize that Day9 is on to something. It starts at the top. If those with the highest levels of exposure can promote the idea of being gracious and well-mannered, maybe it can trickle down.



the closest you can get to perfectly manner is the koreans but they still bm

Whaaa, Koreans on ladder are bm as fuck, at least as much as anyone else. At the pro level this is true
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Killdotgif
Profile Joined April 2011
2 Posts
August 19 2011 00:37 GMT
#39
This community is really good. Compared to most communites that i've been to, this one by far is the best. People practicing with one another to get better, discussing game mechanics. For the most part, on TL, people are looking to make each other better. I can say the same thing about the street fighter community too. They have a lot of hype, but for the most part they respect each other as players. Good or bad. Both communities have their bad mannered players however. On the grand scheme of things Starcraft has one of the best communities I've ever been apart of. I used to play a lot of DoTA and trashtalking was pretty much apart of the game. Nobody had ANY respect for the other as a player for the most part (not saying that about the community as a whole). Spend a bit on Xbox Live or PSN if you have the chance...Your ears will bleed due to the amount of BM and trolling in general. It's terrible sometimes.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 19 2011 01:05 GMT
#40
To me "this community" means teamliquid. And we are mostly filled with nice and helpful people.

When in a time of serious need post a thread about it and see what happens. You will see what kind of community this is.
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