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"Why the f*** is Nestea so good?"
Nestea, the godfather of Zerg. The god of zerg. The master, the leader, the amazing epic crazy Nestea who is so incredibly smart and good at Zerg. King of the Swarm.
Losira, sunshine boy, cutey smiley devil-in-disguise. Many have felt his wrath at MLG Columbus, behind that wide smiling grin, sits the devil zerg boy. I love Losira, I talk to him pretty often. His hobbies include eating :p and he practices. A LOT.
If both Nestea and Losira win tonight, we will be seeing a Master VS protégé Finals. A ZvZ finals.
GSL Semis spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +Nestea just won against HongUn. Maybe not won - more like plundered, it was kind of 1 sided, a 3:0 series
IN BROODWAR TERMS, Nestea VS Losira = Boxer VS iloveoov OMG
As an avid zerg fan and lover, my whole body shivers as I think about this.
Zerg players all around the world, let us all channel our zerg hope towards Losira who will be starting his game in 5 minutes
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The finals of the EVER 2004 OSL was perhaps one of the most anticipated ones in StarCraft history, with BoxeR facing his pupil iloveoov. Not only was it teacher vs. pupil but it was also a fight between two terrans with completely different styles of play. BoxeR's micro intensive play against iloveoov's macro focused style.
The finals was brought to a fifth and deciding match after BoxeR and iloveoov won two games each. In the end, iloveoov came out victorious and BoxeR placed second in an OSL for the third time in his career.
After the finals BoxeR broke down in tears.
Oov later stated the following: "I really hope that now Boxer will never hear from someone else that he is weak. I wish that Boxer will win all of his future tournaments the same way he stepped past so many good players on his road to this Ever Starleague Final. I'm sure he was so determined because he hasn't had a win recently... I'm so sad. From now on, although I want to game again with Boxer, I don't want to meet him in this kind of situation ever again. If I had beat someone other than Boxer, I think I would have been much happier."
Source: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/EVER2004_OSL
NESTEA LOSIRA FIGHTING /o/
PS: Thanks Jinro for fixing what Chris couldn't... angry boy should learn gentleman from you :p
 
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My God, a ZvZ final would be so horrible and boring. BYUN FIGHTING!!!
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TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun.
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Wow, way to cheapen boxer vs iloveoov
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hmm it needs another few years before any sc2 player can qualify for anything remotely like boxer status
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On July 25 2011 19:56 setzer wrote:
TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun.
NesTea vs Byun will be twice as good as NesTea vs Losira but give a chance to ZvZ man, ZvZ is quite good. It's better than TvT in Sc2, even TvT in BW.
On July 25 2011 19:58 Kraznaya wrote:
Wow, way to cheapen boxer vs iloveoov
Yes, especially iloveoov
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Yeah I disagree with your comparison that Nestea vs Losira = Boxer vs iloveoov in bw, no way this would be as big as Boxer vs iloveoov was. Sure, it will probably be good, but nowhere near as good as Boxer vs iloveoov in terms of hype and gameplay/mindgames (probably).
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On July 25 2011 20:00 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 19:56 setzer wrote:
TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun. NesTea vs Byun will be twice as good as NesTea vs Losira but give a chance to ZvZ man, ZvZ is quite good. It's better than TvT in Sc2, even TvT in BW. Yes, especially iloveoov
TvT - chess game; most tactical matchup
ZvZ - roach wall vs roach wall with very little micro after 5 minutes
ZvZ isn't as good as the BW matchup, let alone TvT.
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On July 25 2011 20:06 setzer wrote:
ZvZ isn't as good as the BW matchup
And that's saying something!
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I'd love to see NesTea vs Losira, but do you think Losira really has a chance?
I mean, NesTea is a monster in ZvZ, I don't wanna see another bad/one sided finals =/
But I trust in Losira, and I'd love to see the ZvZ finals.
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A ZvZ finals will probably be a Nestea win in something pretty lopsided. Though that'd be nothing new watching the semis right now.
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I wouldn't go as far as comparing this to Boxer vs oov.
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I really don't care who makes it to the finals, I just want a close series... no more walk overs please!
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This is nowhere close to Boxer vs iloveoov... NesTea and Losira are nowhere near the status of these two.
I'm glad you're excited though. I myself don't care much for ZvZ.
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On July 25 2011 19:56 setzer wrote:
TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun.
+ Show Spoiler [Semi results] +Seeing how Byun was just fucked up with a 9 iron by Losira, imagine what would have happened had it been NesTea instead.
Well the finals will be good for me. A lot of people are disagreeing (THNK GOD MLG THIS WEEKEND!!) but I stand by, this will be an entertaining Final.
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Whoever says bw tvt is interesting obviously has no idea what they are talking about
+ Show Spoiler +There are exceptions, like flash vs leta
bw zvz>sc2 zvz, since sc2 is just a bunch of 1a roaches with fungal mixed in
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On July 25 2011 20:06 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:00 Djagulingu wrote:On July 25 2011 19:56 setzer wrote:
TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun. NesTea vs Byun will be twice as good as NesTea vs Losira but give a chance to ZvZ man, ZvZ is quite good. It's better than TvT in Sc2, even TvT in BW. On July 25 2011 19:58 Kraznaya wrote:
Wow, way to cheapen boxer vs iloveoov Yes, especially iloveoov TvT - chess game; most tactical matchup ZvZ - roach wall vs roach wall with very little micro after 5 minutes ZvZ isn't as good as the BW matchup, let alone TvT.
What in the world are you talking about? I guess you didn't watch Nestea vs July this season, let alone any ZvZ after Season 2. If ZvZ has "very little micro", then which mirror includes micro in sc2? TvT? PvP? Give me a break. You can't just 1a roaches and hope that you don't get fungal'd. It can get stale as well, but not as stale as a TvT, and it doesn't have stupid shenanigans (like 4 gate in PvP).
On July 25 2011 20:46 101toss wrote:Whoever says bw tvt is interesting obviously has no idea what they are talking about + Show Spoiler +There are exceptions, like flash vs leta bw zvz>sc2 zvz, since sc2 is just a bunch of 1a roaches with fungal mixed in
Most sc2 progamers (especially protoss ones) hotkey everything that is not a worker or a building to 1 (that's why you see zealots in the back 3 seconds into the engagement). I'm pretty sure that I saw terrans that don't hotkey medivacs seperately and hotkey tanks and marines together. The only real "micro" in sc2 is marine split micro.
BW ZvZ is the most micro intensive matchup in any game, hands down. PvP has good shuttle reaver play and TvT has very different strategies in BW (this is true in sc2 as well).
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Why do people think Nestea vs. Byun wouldn't be one sided? I'd bet my life that Nestea would 4-0 Byun, while Losira's ZvZ is actually ridiculously good, second best in the world hands down.
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Canada5565 Posts
Hm I don't agree but interesting comparison. Nice hype 
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Looks like you get your wish, Kelly... will certainly be an interesting finals.
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i actually don't believe that you just compared boxer - iloveoov to this.
But yes, the finals will be fantastic.
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Australia7069 Posts
I think comparing the rivalry between two players, one of whom hasn't even won a major championship (code s), to two of the most dominant players in the 12 year history of broodwar playing against each other, is an insult. There just isn't the history there.
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On July 25 2011 20:53 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Why do people think Nestea vs. Byun wouldn't be one sided? I'd bet my life that Nestea would 4-0 Byun, while Losira's ZvZ is actually ridiculously good, second best in the world hands down.
Byun needs to win a TvZ first just to get 4-0'd by Nestea. His style can't win a TvZ in the foreseeable future. You can't just wait and mass up and try to attack into a well-geared zerg as a Terran. He needs to constantly pressure all game long, which he doesn't do.
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I have to be blunt about this.
HOW DARE YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT MAKING THAT COMPARISON?
Iloveoov faced boxer AFTER he already put himself on the map by winning the MSL 3 times in a row.
Losira has MLG silver...
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IN BROODWAR TERMS, Nestea VS Losira = Boxer VS iloveoov OMG
Sorry Kelly, but no, just no.BW TvT is much better than SC2 ZvZ and Boxer vs OOV wasn't just a clash of master and pupil, but a change of eras .
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OMG! It's a Losira VS Nestea finals. My wish has come true!!
Sorry if you guys don't think its similar enough. But still, this is the first SC2 master vs pupil and it's going to be a great match.
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Bad comparison, it'd probably be like Killer vs Jaedong. And I predict a Losira loss 4-1, Nestea is all too good.
+ Show Spoiler +
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My reaction to the comparison can pretty much be summed up with this picture.
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I'd say Killer vs Jaedong indeed is more of an appropriate comparison, they even have the same race for whatever that matters ^^.
Also I am not really excited for a ZvZ finals, its frigging roach balls and infestors all day long or roach ling timing attack into one guy had 3 more roaches then the other.
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On July 25 2011 22:16 Kipsate wrote:My reaction to the comparison can pretty much be summed up with this picture. + Show Spoiler +I'd say Killer vs Jaedong indeed is more of an appropriate comparison, they even have the same race for whatever that matters ^^. Also I am not really excited for a ZvZ finals, its frigging roach balls and infestors all day long or roach ling timing attack into one guy had 3 more roaches then the other.
Hi-5 broodwar homie!
also spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qsYda.png) Curse you Losiraaaaa  poor byun and his puppy
+ Show Spoiler +
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Will be more like JD v Yarnc in my opinion. Nestea's got a golden whatever in the bag.
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Boxer vs Iloveoov. I cried when Boxer cried .
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On July 25 2011 22:40 Scarecrow wrote:
Will be more like JD v Yarnc in my opinion. Nestea's got a golden whatever in the bag.
or that final with kwanro in it lol
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On July 25 2011 22:41 ptbl wrote:Boxer vs Iloveoov. I cried when Boxer cried .
Is there a video showing it?
Or just that picture?
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When it comes to finals, I try to put aside my race bias and focus on the actual event as opposed to what races are playing. Every matchup can be exiting in its own way, and it will be when it's a finals. Even the TvT finals in ST provoked a lot of emotion in me.
Gogo ZvZ finals!
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Gom better get a golden something ready for Nestea.
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On July 25 2011 23:52 101toss wrote:Oov has something to say about your comparison: + Show Spoiler +
Ur doing it wrong
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On July 25 2011 20:13 Tschis wrote:
I'd love to see NesTea vs Losira, but do you think Losira really has a chance?
I mean, NesTea is a monster in ZvZ, I don't wanna see another bad/one sided finals =/
But I trust in Losira, and I'd love to see the ZvZ finals.
I think this is a bad way to see it. Nobody really thought Polt had a chance either, and it ended up being a steamroll the in OPPOSITE direction. If Losira can surprise us half that much, he'll at least make it interesting. =P
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I'd love to see Losira take some games, and I think ZvZ has a halfway decent chance of that happening. As good as Nestea is, I feel that this matchup in particular could have those "O @#*&" moments (banelings, missed ramp blocks, etc), where any player regardless of skill could hiccup, if even for a moment.
Granted, the odds of something like that happening AND costing the game for a player like Nestea are slim. But they are still there.
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Noo.....Already sooo many zergs on sea, almost every match I play is against zerg. And now when I want to watch some gsl, it's zerg vs zerg I hope this goes on longer than the pvp code-A finals, thought it miught be tough though.
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This is more like a Luxury vs Yellow[arnc] than Boxer vs iloveoov....
Far way too different....
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I've been a fan of Losira since his first game in the GSL against TLO. Really happy he's made it so far, kind of hoping for an upset but I still love papa bear Zerg NesTea.
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On July 26 2011 00:27 Mikilatov wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:13 Tschis wrote:
I'd love to see NesTea vs Losira, but do you think Losira really has a chance?
I mean, NesTea is a monster in ZvZ, I don't wanna see another bad/one sided finals =/
But I trust in Losira, and I'd love to see the ZvZ finals. I think this is a bad way to see it. Nobody really thought Polt had a chance either, and it ended up being a steamroll the in OPPOSITE direction. If Losira can surprise us half that much, he'll at least make it interesting. =P
As one of the people who's been saying that Polt didn't stand a chance for weeks prior to that cursed day, in hindsight I can say it was really only the hype behind MMA's sick momentum at the time talking, as well as the whole backstory of him being Boxer's chosen recruit to the memorable way he used to win games that he did win, it was just so easy to be on that bandwagon and consciously ignore the possibility of any other outcome of the ST finals.
Deep, deep down I was always afraid of the outcome that ended up happening. I mean yeah, to this day after all the MMA hype died out, I don't think Polt is a special player at all, but it's now obvious that MMA really wasn't either (at the time at least).
With NesTea vs Losira, I really don't have that gut feeling that Losira can do it at all. The tier gap between these two seems much more apparent, even though this time I'd like to be wrong. I find Losira so much more likeable.
On the other hand, I can't help but compare it to PDPop MSL. It was a ZvZ fest as well to many people's despair, and it kind of heralded the end of legendary Jaedong vZ, so maybe this GSL can do that for NesTea.
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GSL finals are always boring steamrolls, by now everybody should know that 
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On July 25 2011 20:06 setzer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2011 20:00 Djagulingu wrote:On July 25 2011 19:56 setzer wrote:
TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun. NesTea vs Byun will be twice as good as NesTea vs Losira but give a chance to ZvZ man, ZvZ is quite good. It's better than TvT in Sc2, even TvT in BW. On July 25 2011 19:58 Kraznaya wrote:
Wow, way to cheapen boxer vs iloveoov Yes, especially iloveoov TvT - chess game; most tactical matchup ZvZ - roach wall vs roach wall with very little micro after 5 minutes ZvZ isn't as good as the BW matchup, let alone TvT.
because no one use's infestors in zvz so theres no micro at all to talk about? if anything zvz is more tactical because of the visceral nature of the game of drones. tvt Is tank vs tank and mech vs bio until someone gets air superiority and then its an autowin.
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Am I the only one Cheering for Losira?
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Hahahaha the BW comparisons are actually pretty funny heheh
I sort of want a Nestea vs Losira finals, but to be completely honest, ZvZ in SC2 is indeed utterly horrendous.
+ Show Spoiler [GSL spoilers] +Wow. So it really WILL be just Losira vs Nestea. Oh snap.
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