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kellymilkies
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore1393 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 10:39:23
July 25 2011 10:38 GMT
#1
"Why the f*** is Nestea so good?"

Nestea, the godfather of Zerg. The god of zerg. The master, the leader, the amazing epic crazy Nestea who is so incredibly smart and good at Zerg. King of the Swarm.

Losira, sunshine boy, cutey smiley devil-in-disguise. Many have felt his wrath at MLG Columbus, behind that wide smiling grin, sits the devil zerg boy. I love Losira, I talk to him pretty often. His hobbies include eating :p and he practices. A LOT.

If both Nestea and Losira win tonight, we will be seeing a Master VS protégé Finals. A ZvZ finals.

GSL Semis spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
Nestea just won against HongUn. Maybe not won - more like plundered, it was kind of 1 sided, a 3:0 series


IN BROODWAR TERMS, Nestea VS Losira = Boxer VS iloveoov OMG

As an avid zerg fan and lover, my whole body shivers as I think about this.

Zerg players all around the world, let us all channel our zerg hope towards Losira who will be starting his game in 5 minutes

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__________________

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The finals of the EVER 2004 OSL was perhaps one of the most anticipated ones in StarCraft history, with BoxeR facing his pupil iloveoov. Not only was it teacher vs. pupil but it was also a fight between two terrans with completely different styles of play. BoxeR's micro intensive play against iloveoov's macro focused style.

The finals was brought to a fifth and deciding match after BoxeR and iloveoov won two games each. In the end, iloveoov came out victorious and BoxeR placed second in an OSL for the third time in his career.

After the finals BoxeR broke down in tears.

Oov later stated the following: "I really hope that now Boxer will never hear from someone else that he is weak. I wish that Boxer will win all of his future tournaments the same way he stepped past so many good players on his road to this Ever Starleague Final. I'm sure he was so determined because he hasn't had a win recently... I'm so sad. From now on, although I want to game again with Boxer, I don't want to meet him in this kind of situation ever again. If I had beat someone other than Boxer, I think I would have been much happier."

Source: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/EVER2004_OSL

NESTEA LOSIRA FIGHTING /o/

PS: Thanks Jinro for fixing what Chris couldn't... angry boy should learn gentleman from you :p

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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
July 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#2
My God, a ZvZ final would be so horrible and boring. BYUN FIGHTING!!!
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 25 2011 10:56 GMT
#3
TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
July 25 2011 10:58 GMT
#4
Wow, way to cheapen boxer vs iloveoov
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
July 25 2011 10:59 GMT
#5
hmm it needs another few years before any sc2 player can qualify for anything remotely like boxer status
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 11:01:21
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#6
On July 25 2011 19:56 setzer wrote:
TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun.

NesTea vs Byun will be twice as good as NesTea vs Losira but give a chance to ZvZ man, ZvZ is quite good. It's better than TvT in Sc2, even TvT in BW.

On July 25 2011 19:58 Kraznaya wrote:
Wow, way to cheapen boxer vs iloveoov

Yes, especially iloveoov
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
July 25 2011 11:05 GMT
#7
Yeah I disagree with your comparison that Nestea vs Losira = Boxer vs iloveoov in bw, no way this would be as big as Boxer vs iloveoov was. Sure, it will probably be good, but nowhere near as good as Boxer vs iloveoov in terms of hype and gameplay/mindgames (probably).
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
July 25 2011 11:06 GMT
#8
On July 25 2011 20:00 Djagulingu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 19:56 setzer wrote:
TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun.

NesTea vs Byun will be twice as good as NesTea vs Losira but give a chance to ZvZ man, ZvZ is quite good. It's better than TvT in Sc2, even TvT in BW.

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 19:58 Kraznaya wrote:
Wow, way to cheapen boxer vs iloveoov

Yes, especially iloveoov


TvT - chess game; most tactical matchup
ZvZ - roach wall vs roach wall with very little micro after 5 minutes

ZvZ isn't as good as the BW matchup, let alone TvT.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 25 2011 11:08 GMT
#9
On July 25 2011 20:06 setzer wrote:
ZvZ isn't as good as the BW matchup

And that's saying something!
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
July 25 2011 11:13 GMT
#10
I'd love to see NesTea vs Losira, but do you think Losira really has a chance?

I mean, NesTea is a monster in ZvZ, I don't wanna see another bad/one sided finals =/
But I trust in Losira, and I'd love to see the ZvZ finals.
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
July 25 2011 11:24 GMT
#11
A ZvZ finals will probably be a Nestea win in something pretty lopsided. Though that'd be nothing new watching the semis right now.
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
July 25 2011 11:26 GMT
#12
I wouldn't go as far as comparing this to Boxer vs oov.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
July 25 2011 11:27 GMT
#13
I really don't care who makes it to the finals, I just want a close series... no more walk overs please!
Khenra
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands885 Posts
July 25 2011 11:38 GMT
#14
This is nowhere close to Boxer vs iloveoov... NesTea and Losira are nowhere near the status of these two.

I'm glad you're excited though. I myself don't care much for ZvZ.
This signature is ruining eSports.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 25 2011 11:41 GMT
#15
On July 25 2011 19:56 setzer wrote:
TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun.

+ Show Spoiler [Semi results] +
Seeing how Byun was just fucked up with a 9 iron by Losira, imagine what would have happened had it been NesTea instead.



Well the finals will be good for me. A lot of people are disagreeing (THNK GOD MLG THIS WEEKEND!!) but I stand by, this will be an entertaining Final.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 25 2011 11:46 GMT
#16
Whoever says bw tvt is interesting obviously has no idea what they are talking about
+ Show Spoiler +
There are exceptions, like flash vs leta

bw zvz>sc2 zvz, since sc2 is just a bunch of 1a roaches with fungal mixed in
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 11:53:14
July 25 2011 11:47 GMT
#17
On July 25 2011 20:06 setzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 20:00 Djagulingu wrote:
On July 25 2011 19:56 setzer wrote:
TvT is actually exciting in BW, unlike ZvZ in SC2. It might be an interesting storyline to have Nestea vs Losira in the finals but I don't think the games would be as good as Nestea vs. Byun.

NesTea vs Byun will be twice as good as NesTea vs Losira but give a chance to ZvZ man, ZvZ is quite good. It's better than TvT in Sc2, even TvT in BW.

On July 25 2011 19:58 Kraznaya wrote:
Wow, way to cheapen boxer vs iloveoov

Yes, especially iloveoov


TvT - chess game; most tactical matchup
ZvZ - roach wall vs roach wall with very little micro after 5 minutes

ZvZ isn't as good as the BW matchup, let alone TvT.

What in the world are you talking about? I guess you didn't watch Nestea vs July this season, let alone any ZvZ after Season 2. If ZvZ has "very little micro", then which mirror includes micro in sc2? TvT? PvP? Give me a break. You can't just 1a roaches and hope that you don't get fungal'd. It can get stale as well, but not as stale as a TvT, and it doesn't have stupid shenanigans (like 4 gate in PvP).

On July 25 2011 20:46 101toss wrote:
Whoever says bw tvt is interesting obviously has no idea what they are talking about
+ Show Spoiler +
There are exceptions, like flash vs leta

bw zvz>sc2 zvz, since sc2 is just a bunch of 1a roaches with fungal mixed in

Most sc2 progamers (especially protoss ones) hotkey everything that is not a worker or a building to 1 (that's why you see zealots in the back 3 seconds into the engagement). I'm pretty sure that I saw terrans that don't hotkey medivacs seperately and hotkey tanks and marines together. The only real "micro" in sc2 is marine split micro.

BW ZvZ is the most micro intensive matchup in any game, hands down. PvP has good shuttle reaver play and TvT has very different strategies in BW (this is true in sc2 as well).
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 25 2011 11:53 GMT
#18
Why do people think Nestea vs. Byun wouldn't be one sided? I'd bet my life that Nestea would 4-0 Byun, while Losira's ZvZ is actually ridiculously good, second best in the world hands down.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
July 25 2011 11:53 GMT
#19
Hm I don't agree but interesting comparison. Nice hype
KTY
Logginurkeyz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States375 Posts
July 25 2011 12:04 GMT
#20
Looks like you get your wish, Kelly... will certainly be an interesting finals.
Jemag... Jemag... you're like an alcoholic telling me why you drink... you have your reasons, but it's still bad... <3 iNcontroL
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