EPTSo TL, do you agree with me?
Poll: Do you like HD and Painuser casting together?
No. (135)
57%
YES! (100)
43%
235 total votes
YES! (100)
235 total votes
Your vote: Do you like HD and Painuser casting together?
HD and Painuser
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So TL, do you agree with me? | ||
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DCSemi
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But PainUser? Bahhhh, boring! | ||
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Greatjnight
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On July 23 2011 03:47 XazXio wrote: i dont like either, HD doesn't know anything that he's talking about (same for husky) they just scream and should to distract people from the fact that they don't have a damn clue what they are doing. i would like to make the argument that they are shout casters not really analyzing the game at a higher level of play. i would say that they provide some useful tips for players plat and below. personally i like hd and painuser i dont mind the duo edit: grammer | ||
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redFF
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marttorn
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As for PainUser? At least he's a pretty good player himself so he brings some analysis to the table. | ||
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Dubzex
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On July 23 2011 04:28 sermokala wrote: I totaly called it the first week IPL started. The gloss has come off and people now realize what they are actualy seeing. I hated them since they first cast together on HD's channel. They are seriously the worst casting pair in SC2 right now. I still don't understand how people can listen to it. Edit: For emphasis... + Show Spoiler + I would rather have bamboo shoots shoved under my fingernails than listen to either of these two people cast a starcraft 2 match. | ||
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awu25
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On July 23 2011 04:24 NrG.NeverExpo wrote: im surprised that there is this much negative feedback about the 2. I thought they were pretty well received here, HD especially O_O I think a lot of it is that he isn't a very high level player. So while people like him initially, they eventually surpass his knowledge then think he's a bad caster | ||
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Bippzy
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On July 23 2011 04:24 NrG.NeverExpo wrote: im surprised that there is this much negative feedback about the 2. I thought they were pretty well received here, HD especially O_O Same here, i really didn't feel stupidity radiating from their voices. Maybe it's just that while i was enjoying the jedi mind trick banter other people were being annoyed. | ||
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KingOfAmerica
United States246 Posts
But even considering all that, I still like him. I am generally entertained by him, and I think he has alot of potential to get better. HD is where I was first exposed to Starcraft VOD's and commentary when I first picked up SC2... which was really the beginning of my trip down the rabbit hole of the SC2 scene. I think of him fondly for that. And sure Painuser hasn't had any success as a pro, but he is knowledgable and I think he strikes a good balance with HD. I agree with the OP. | ||
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Edit: some were insulting Painuser's skill, but he did place 3rd in MLG Dallas 2010! | ||
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And at the very least, they're both better than Gretorp. | ||
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SecondSandwich
United States319 Posts
HD is lacking in the analysis department, but I think he would be the first to admit it. However, he sounds like he truly enjoys watching and casting starcraft, and I think that goes along way in making up for his other weaknesses. I would prefer to listen to him alone, I think. TL;DR On July 26 2011 11:11 lGy wrote: painuser is awful... HD is aite | ||
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bob198
Canada14 Posts
Making all kinds of mistakes like telling the fans that the 1.4 BFH will still 2 shot workers, over dramatising, lack of positivity, no robo counters to 111... GoGo Cat's Pajamas | ||
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Djzapz
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On August 26 2011 03:45 bob198 wrote: I like HD, but Painuser could improve. Making all kinds of mistakes like telling the fans that the 1.4 BFH will still 2 shot workers, over dramatising, lack of positivity, no robo counters to 111... Other way around. They both make mistakes, but Painuser actually knows the game whereas HD doesn't, really. Neither of them are actually that good at commentating IMO, but Painuser makes up for it by knowing the game. The fact that HD achieved a certain level popularity is mindblowing to me. He goes off on ridiculous tangents that make no sense, says untrue things all the time, brings up random BS. I usually mute any stream or VOD commentated by HD but for IPL, I just lower the volume to catch the insightful things Painuser has in store. Artosis once said that he hates when shoutcasters pretend to know things when they clearly don't. I don't know that he would agree, but HD pisses me off because he can make stuff up absurdly well. The world needs more tastosis and day9 and less silver players who appeal to the official battle.net forum posters. HD is like a freaking apple product. | ||
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Kolgrim
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I tune in to IPL during work hours and it keeps me quite entertained and never had any complains. | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On August 26 2011 04:32 Kolgrim wrote: I don't see why there so much hate. Cut these guys some slack, they are doing a decent job and promoting e-sports. That is never bad. I tune in to IPL during work hours and it keeps me quite entertained and never had any complains. They're "promoting e-sports"? Sure, they're also getting an actual salary. You know, money. It's not some great act of self-sacrifice for the community. I appreciate what they're trying to do, but I would bet that HD mostly appeals to people in the low leagues. (I'm sure some pros like to watch for the comical relief) TL is packed to the brim with commentators who do it for free, some of them are much better than the bigshot youtubers but don't get the same recognition. Some of them are the selfless folks who promote "e-sports" I think it's sad when fairly big names get super excited and shout things like "THE SCVS GET A FULL SURROUND ON THE MARINE" at the 4 minutes mark when it's actually 2 SCVs and the marine ran away. It doesn't matter if you sold your house to run a 200k tournament - it doesn't make you a good commentator. | ||
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Djzapz
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On August 26 2011 09:24 novabossa wrote: I love HD. He's the one who introduced me to Starcraft through Youtube. Always get a bit nostalgic when I see his casts. Fantastic radio voice too. Despite all you casuals claiming he doesn't know what he's talking about...perhaps it's the other way around. HD's made an impressive effort to improve his knowledge of the game and he's a mid-top level masters player who's competed at several MLGs. How many of you can say the same? So get off your bronze ponies and stfu. Competing at MLG is easy. You pay and you play even if you're bronze. Last time he tried to compete he lost 0-2 and dropped into lower bracket and then lost 0-2 and dropped out of the tournament. Well spent $50 (or whatever it costs). He truly doesn't know what he's talking about most of the time. | ||
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