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Artifice
Profile Joined May 2010
United States523 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 08:10:44
July 19 2011 08:09 GMT
#21
Very possible. Just play a lot, and make sure you're learning as you play rather than just going through the motions. Use the resources available to you on TL and elsewhere, watch highlevel games/vods/replays, check out Liquipedia, etc. I was placed in Copper (lol) in beta and hit Diamond by release (which was the highest at the time). It might make it feel a little more possible for you if I point out that NA is probably the easiest of the three major ladders, and that Masters is the top 2.8% of the ladder (about 12,000 people), so you don't need to be too incredible to get where you want to be.
Hristiyan
Profile Joined May 2011
99 Posts
July 19 2011 08:10 GMT
#22
play terran and it shouldn't be hard to get there quickly.
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1100 Posts
July 19 2011 08:11 GMT
#23
Yeah as some one who is half way through that process (I started off in bronze and am now top gold and winning games off top plats) it's possible, least so far.

The best advice I can give is to ladder 1v1 like mad and have friends ladder with you on skype VoIP, it's far more relaxed espeically on the ladder lol. Also day9 helped alot!
mEtRoSG
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany192 Posts
July 19 2011 08:11 GMT
#24
I started out in bronze too and now im in gm, diidnt even buy the game when released, just need to put alot of passion and thought into it
Amalaxi
Profile Joined December 2010
United States180 Posts
July 19 2011 08:13 GMT
#25
I remember losing queens to hightemplar feedbacks, after that I never had a queen over 50 energy...losing to 2rax 30 games in a row and figuring out how to defend it, its just a trial and error game, you can research all you want and watch as many streams as you want, but if you don't lose to that 2rax 10 games in a row to find out how to control your units to beat it, you never will.
Just play.
justin.tv/amalaxinaoum
recklessfire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States373 Posts
July 19 2011 08:18 GMT
#26
yo man you can hit me up on b.net if u wana play a few games and we can just talk about your gameplay

recklessfire.858 im diamond toss btw
Aurex
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada115 Posts
July 19 2011 08:20 GMT
#27
This was my first rts, started bronze now im masters. BEST THING TO NOTE! Y.A.B.O.T IS YOUR FRIEND. Being able to -r to restart from scratch every time you make a mistake is the fastest way to hammer macro down.
ckast
Profile Joined September 2010
175 Posts
July 19 2011 08:20 GMT
#28
tbh..i think you just need to learn 4gates and you can to atleast diamond, and even master once you understand a few more builds. But this is no fun.
just try to learn some build orders from Pro..and practice hard to execute the BO like them.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
July 19 2011 08:22 GMT
#29
I was a solid D/D- in BW, yet when I started SC2, I couldn't get out of silver after 3 whole hours of play. It's a long road ahead man.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
July 19 2011 08:22 GMT
#30
I started in the beta as a forever copper player. I am currently rank 7 diamond and hope to hit masters soon.

It is certainly possible.

a few tips:

Learn to 4 gate. Alot of people will tell you to focus on macro build and expanding often. the problem with this is that to hold a 1 Gate FE or a 2 Gate FE vs terran you need good micro vs certain builds. You also need to know when it is safe to 1 gate FE or if you will die. If you 4 gate well you can get at least platnuim. It will teach you basic unit control and basic macro. Once this stops working and you think you have a good handle of builds then you can start going for more risky builds.

Focus on macro over micro. In the end you win by having more stuff. If you have choice between watching a battle and warping in units warp in the units. You don't have the micro to know what to do in battle and most time you will just sit there watching.

Don't try to get cute. Don't do huK style probe harass and find yuo haven't dropped your cyber core and are sitting on 300 minerals.


final note: Play a lot and you will improve. It might be slow. it took me about 6 months to get diamond and about 6 more before i thought i had a decent shot at masters. just keep at it and dont get discouraged.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
July 19 2011 08:22 GMT
#31
On July 19 2011 17:05 Amalaxi wrote:
I started in bronze in december, and I was masters 2 weeks after the patch that created the master league, no prior RTS experience, I just played the game 12-16 hours a day for 2 months, I never watched streams seriously or looked up builds, just watched my replays to see what I should have done differently, went from knowing nothing about the game and having 10 apm bronze zerg to high master with 300 apm... just play the game and you'll get there


12-16 hours per day? For 2 months? That's a little extreme. O-o And 300 apm, lol. I don't believe you. Even speedfreak ViBE is lower than that. This is the most extreme post of the entire thread.

Instead of thinking about masters, I'd set small reasonable, weekly goals. As many have said, it comes down to playing, studying, analyzing, and thinking critically. You can do it,
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
July 19 2011 08:23 GMT
#32
There are lots of nice people out there who are offering free coaching. I suggest you take up on that as you can learn many quick tips and things you just never knew about the game.
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
seefernando
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada17 Posts
July 19 2011 08:24 GMT
#33
So I just got a PM that I should post replays and comment on them and how I felt about them myself.

Is that something I should do? I just feel like I'm gonna make more Fodder for the forums.

Honestly though I feel that may SC2 related forums are not as Newbie friendly. Anyone else feel that?

I want to improve and document it so that others can do the same as well.

FrostFire626
Profile Joined April 2010
United States79 Posts
July 19 2011 08:26 GMT
#34
I would suggest shooting for Platinum or Diamond for the time being. It's important to have ambitious goals, but shooting too high too early can be bad for your morale and your chances of success.
Pocketpurple
Profile Joined July 2010
United States80 Posts
July 19 2011 08:26 GMT
#35
It is very possible, I started out as copper at the end of beta and was in diamond at release. It really helps if you can find a friend who is at or above your level of play who can sort of help show you the ropes of the game. Just try and get better slowly at all assets of the game, play faster, don't get supply blocked, pay attention to your army, and soon enough you'll find yourself miles beyond where you were earlier. To be honest, masters only appears to be good to those not in masters, I am in masters and I think I am terrible at the game.
Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 08:33:43
July 19 2011 08:33 GMT
#36
You just gotta keep playing, I got from bronze to diamond so far, it just takes a lot of play and a lot of trying to just improve. Of course it's possible.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
July 19 2011 08:35 GMT
#37
In order to get from Bronze to Masters you need to understand how this game works. You need to understand that there are a few key things regarding timings and mechanics.
I started off in Bronze too, but it didn't take me very long to get to Diamond (there was no masters back then) simply because I understood how this game was meant to work. I think that derives from the 50 bw games I've plaxed and the like3 or 4 VODs I've watched.

I think one of the most important things is that you need to be a perfectionist. If you don't care that you got more than 0 left after you did a speedling expand build, or if you sent your drone out to build a hatchery 50 minerals too early you just won't get far.

You also have to accept the fact that a huge part of improvement is researching. You have to read a ton of sc2 related stuff, you have to watch a ton of sc2 related stuff and you have to listen to a lot of sc2 related stuff. You might think that consumes a lot of time, but in fact it saves an incredible amount. When you watch a video you don't do it for fun. You do it for improvement, you look for the tiny things that differ from your play.
When you read a strategy guide you want to go online and try it as long as you get it down perfectly.

You need to find practice partners to play all the matchups to get a feeling for the timings. I figured a lot of the ZvP timings out myself and now this MU is on GM level.
If you want to do it you have to acknowledge that it is no fun being competitive unless you find it fun being competitive.
Neverplay
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria532 Posts
July 19 2011 08:37 GMT
#38
On July 19 2011 17:24 seefernando wrote:
So I just got a PM that I should post replays and comment on them and how I felt about them myself.

Is that something I should do? I just feel like I'm gonna make more Fodder for the forums.

Honestly though I feel that may SC2 related forums are not as Newbie friendly. Anyone else feel that?

I want to improve and document it so that others can do the same as well.




i think the forums are quite newbi friendly, its just that people ask soo many questions which have already been answered a 1000 times (excellerating)
Honestly there is so much helpful content out there that anybody could get diamond atleast.

As ive written before, watch alot, play alot and look for your wholes, progress will come slowly but it will happen.
Better light a candle than curse the darkness
sva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States747 Posts
July 19 2011 08:37 GMT
#39
Find a few mentors or people to assist you to grow as a player, then just play. Don't worry about your league just worry about getting better and working to grow as a player. I have helped numerous people grow in sc2 and there are many who will help you as well. I believe there was a adopt a noobie program somewhere helping players such as yourself find higher rated players to coach you.
One of the first things you must learn is that if you lose that it is your fault don't blame the game or your opponent blame yourself. Learn from your mistakes and and grow as a player. Pm a few people in your own thread and ask them for help. Some people will flame you probably and some people might help you just gotta put yourself out there and be on with it.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 19 2011 08:39 GMT
#40
Definitely possible. I was bronze about 5 months ago and now I'm master. I only play once or twice a week so if i played a bit more i could have possible gotten here sooner.

The trick is to not be creative and barely think about strategy. Just work on your mechanics. Watch replays to see where your mechanics start to fall. Your APM will naturally rise so it's important to be efficient with your APM rather than just try to play fast. I use to play with like 20, now i play with about 120, which is not super fast but atm, i can macro decently with it.

Try to get some really refined builds tht are solid and safe. Most of these u will want to copy from a pro, as ur not at the level to make ur own builds. Good game sense comes from just massing games, something i still need to do more off, and it's also the best way to improve ur mechanics. Always scout and after a while, u'll know wat ur scouting for and how to respond to it.

Just have really small goals tht u want to achieve and ur game will start to really improve. I found getting out of bronze to gold the hardest bit, once u start to get a grasp of the game, it becomes much easier to analyse ur game and know where to improve.

Bronze to master is possible for sure, it just takes effort and willingness to improve. Cheesing can probably get u to masters but tht's not a smart way to do it. Just play solid and safe. It may take a while but it'll be worth it in the long run.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
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