EPTSo it's definitely possible ^^
Bronze to Master! in my dreams? - Page 11
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aeN
Italy92 Posts
So it's definitely possible ^^ | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
skype - stropheum bnet - stropheum.841 stropheum2@yahoo.com | ||
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Excludos
Norway8255 Posts
On July 25 2011 02:40 aeN wrote: I had no RTS experience at all, started in bronze and got to diamond by the end of season 1, now i'm pretty sure i can get to master in this upcoming season. So it's definitely possible ^^ I have played a lot of computer games in my life, but I have never played any rts outside of the singleplayer. Sc2 was my first in that regard. I still hit diamond in early beta, and have held myself at the top ever since, trying to get myself into GM atm. How? Day9 daily of course! :D Hand on heart I'd still be bronze without it! | ||
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Garth
United States353 Posts
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envisioN .
United States552 Posts
You need the drive to want to play. I'm not talking 5 hours a day. I play probably 2-4 hours a day of 1v1 Ladder but as long as you learn from your mistakes and you want to get better, you can get better quite easily. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8255 Posts
On July 25 2011 02:45 Garth wrote: masters players aren't that good. Little bit off topic..but how can the top 2% ranked in the region not be considered "good"? | ||
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Norway8255 Posts
On July 25 2011 02:45 envisioN . wrote: but as long as you learn from your mistakes and you want to get better, you can get better quite easily. This, and a hundred times this. You don't need to waste 8 hours a day to hit masters. But if you find mistakes in your own builds, and actively try to fix them, you'll get better a lot quicker. Never, ever, think "I did this perfectly, and still lost" when you're below GM. | ||
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chaopow
United States556 Posts
When I took the leap from platinum to diamond, I think thats when I started watching Day9. Soon I was watching streams and tournaments and I made it into masters. At the end of season 1 I was diamond. A few weeks after season 2 began, I was masters. When the placement screen popped up I was so happy. I learned from Bronze to masters all by myself, and with the help of some awesome internet starcraft 2 lovers. It is very possible, but the game should not be about rank. I had tons of fun playing the game and getting promoted from all the leagues is just a bonus. I'm now aiming at GM league, and I know I'm not too far away from that. Just take your time, learn from others, and enjoy the game. Yes you do have to spend some time analyzing your play, but it can be worth it in the end. Its possible but not that easy! Good luck! | ||
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Krayze
United States213 Posts
On the other side though, I think video game skill is partially something you are born with. Like with sports, it's 90% genetics, 10% training. I never played any games seriously before sc2 and I went straight into the top league at all times because I am a natural gamer and it just comes easy for me. So it's hard to say, if not impossible to predict what your potential is. I know if you practice hard and get the right help, you will improve. | ||
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On July 19 2011 17:02 seefernando wrote: + Show Spoiler + Ok, So my stats. I started playing RTS games mid Season 1. I've literally never played PC games, I only ever had a PSx and all I played as Metal Gear Solid. I was in bronze since Mid Season 1, I played Zerg and went 7 roach till I got to Gold. At Gold I started losing consistently to Platinum players. I switched to protoss, as I was told it would be easier to learn a macro style of play with Toss. I was placed back into Bronze by the end of season 1. Started season 2 in Bronze, I actually wasn't able to play as my laptop go stolen at school. I only started play a few weeks before the league lock. Recently I've been playing many high Bronze/sliver players. Is there anything I need to include? I use Grid keys for hotkeys. I can't think of anything else I should include. I'm looking for practice ideas, realistic goals and general ideas of improving play. Thanks! <3 That sounds kind of like me in a way, except you explained my improvement in the beta. I was in silver and gold during the beta (which is basically what low bronze and high bronze is today). Once the game officially came out I was placed in silver, but barely laddered and finally switched to playing a custom map on WC3 which improved my APM and macro capabilities 1000x. When I went back to playing SC2 I got into gold quickly and then after a while of improving by experimenting with different strategies, I got placed into plat. I'm still experimenting with different strategies atm. Imo bronze league is a league of denying cheese and starting to learning to macro well. You can get out of bronze league with cheese, but most cheesers don't make it higher than silver or gold. Silver is basically the same deal as bronze, except you see better cheesers. Gold is when macro starts to show up more. Most players in that league can hold of the average cheese. PS: I spoilered your post because it made my post way too big D: | ||
Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
After learning about the Day 9 dailies, I had gradually improved during the beta to reach the highest available league at each patch (platinum, then diamond, then masters. Not GM though =D). Just play a good amount of games, learn 1-2 builds per matchup from either Day9 Dailies or watching pro games and then fine tune it to your own style. I found my biggest turning point that improved my game the most was when watching one of the Day9 dailies (don't remember which one), Day9 said to just focus on your macro. aka always remembering to build scvs/supply depots, and keep churning out units and not focus too much on micro. It doesn't matter in the end if your units act like idiots, if you just have a ton of shit, your opponent won't be able to do much to kill it. It was mainly because of that daily, that I was able to get into masters league day 1 it came out. Now I'm in masters, but ofc, not the best player or anything (in fact I've been slumping recently) but it is possible if you just want it to say master's league next to your 1v1 ladder. I didn't even play that many games, most I've ever played on 1 day was about 30 games (custom and ladder) but that only happened once actually. Generally I play about 4-5 ladder games, 10-12 on good days. TL:DR Yes it's possible, but it won't happen over night. Edit: My previous RTS experience was about 1 year on and off of WC3 and 0 BW. | ||
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On July 25 2011 02:54 Krayze wrote: I can't confirm this 100% but I heard (from Destiny?) that coL.Minigun was in bronze league when he started and SC2 is his first rts. Now he's playing for Complexity and in Grandmaster's. Maybe that's some inspiration for you. On the other side though, I think video game skill is partially something you are born with. Like with sports, it's 90% genetics, 10% training. I never played any games seriously before sc2 and I went straight into the top league at all times because I am a natural gamer and it just comes easy for me. So it's hard to say, if not impossible to predict what your potential is. I know if you practice hard and get the right help, you will improve. I disagree. If someone is just terrible at SC2 to begin with ("ooh look at all the pretty toss buildings") then it's obviously 100% training to get better. If someone starts out in a high league, that usually means they've had experience with another RTS game, keeping it to near 100% training. The only time genetics intervenes with the ratio is if you learn faster than others. | ||
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Caltu
60 Posts
Adapting to a situation is something you need to work around also. Its no good having the most perfect macro build for MMM or a great roach hydra build then know they are moving to you with some many banelings or colosi and just rolf stomps you. Work around situations well is something many people cant do. I know I cant  Most of all practice! Everytime you practice, evaluate where you went wrong to help you | ||
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Vapaach
Finland994 Posts
And whoever said gaming skill is 90% genetics is completely wrong. I think it is more like 1%, and the affecting 1% are disabilities that make your gaming harder. | ||
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LITTLEHEAD
United States79 Posts
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
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Geniuszerg
Canada454 Posts
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seefernando
Canada17 Posts
Just an update on my progress. I've been winning games!! YEAAAAH!... But I've been losing quite a few too... But todays entire session was about losing to Cheese... Usually I'm so lactose intolerant, and I can fight it off and continue with my plan and win... But today..... FML... I just feel really off my game today. All my macro seemed to slip away and I just could not hold it together. I kept deviating from my plan. Trying to change things on the fly to counter what I saw. But I don't think I can do that just yet. It leads to me forgetting to make probes, becoming supply blocked, dropping another gateway instead of a cyber, putting 5 probes in gas, rallying my nexus to his base my accident, losing my entire army while trying to warp in units, the list continues.... What should I do, when things just don't seem to go my way? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH... I'm so pissed... so much cheese.... I can't macro with that shit..... I"m gonna go for a run now... I just can't play SC right now... I can't focus... I probally shouldn't post while in this state... I keep wanting to scream "STIM IS SO IMBA!!!!" But I won't because I know the reason I lost is not making enough stuff plus not having my zealots in front. That combined with just moving my units and not a-moving, led to my rage quit... *exhales* | ||
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MageWarden
United States95 Posts
u play toss ull make masters in a week. jk to spoiler not actual opinion. i went from bronze to diamond. working on masters right now! GL to u! | ||
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RMP
United Kingdom130 Posts
Ps. I did play WoW to Gladiator if that's relevent (i had previous exp in video games) | ||
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