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JungHyun
Profile Joined January 2011
United States47 Posts
July 20 2011 10:41 GMT
#161
It's definitely not impossible at all. I was Rank 1 bronze and now I'm Rank 1 Platinum with TvP capable of holding mid masters Protoss players with relative ease. You just need to play a lot, I certainly think it's going to take effort however. I have 1500 wins or so as only Platinum working up from Bronze. There's a player named Raptor on the Korean servers who worked from KR bronze to KR GM and is Rank 17 last I checked. Just work hard!
Age is only a number.
3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
July 20 2011 10:55 GMT
#162
Isn't Raptor forgg or something?
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
July 20 2011 11:07 GMT
#163
On July 19 2011 16:55 zeehar wrote:
of course it's possible, with a lot of hard work and a ton of time spent playing, watching, reading and analysing.

i'm curious as to how long it'll take. maybe two seasons (as long as you're inherently bad at sc2)?


I would have to respond by saying: lol.

If all the inherently bad players could get to masters in two seasons...

I don't even know how to end that sentence, because your logic is boggling my mind.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
Zellabris
Profile Joined October 2009
United States43 Posts
July 20 2011 11:09 GMT
#164
Yo we all gotta start somewhere. I started playing brood war in 2008, so most of my sc2 mechanics were carried over from bw. Don't be discouraged if you don't see results right away, you need to believe in yourself and remember that all of us--the community--are behind you!

I improved my gameplay by playing a ton of games and watched streams all the time. LET yourself be engulfed by the starcraft universe. If you want to improve rapidly, stop thinking it as a game and start treating it as a lifestyle.
CyberFrog
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark8 Posts
July 20 2011 11:12 GMT
#165
Im a master player and i still get supply blocked :S
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 11:17:12
July 20 2011 11:16 GMT
#166
here's me when i started out during beta last year:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2792/intesakaxigva.png

now i'm ~1500p master. and i've only played about 1000 1v1 games since the game was released.

basically; eat, sleep, starcraft. :D

- watch day9 newbie tuesday vods then move on to his other dailies
- watch gsl, nasl, ipl and user streams on TL with commentary
- read EVERYTHING in the strategy guide on liquipedia

when you ladder play the same opening/build all the way to high diamond/master. then focus on 2-3 openings for each matchup until you can master them. your mechanics is more important than anything. you'll learn how to handle your opponent's build and how to change your own builds/unit compositions/timings by experience.
zala2023
Profile Joined April 2011
United States228 Posts
July 20 2011 11:19 GMT
#167
I recommend watching from pro games and get a general feel of the game. Once you have a general sense of whats going on at various stages of the game, you will be able to easily climb your way up.

As for "mechanics" and "build order", simply ladder more! Practice makes perfect.

Of course, being in bronze, alot of the players will do stuff that makes no senses whats so ever. If you are extremely frustrated by losing to non-nonsensical stuff, feel free to 4gate your way up to gold or something.
relax bro we got this
cheeseheadlogic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States322 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-20 16:20:20
July 20 2011 16:19 GMT
#168
Going back to my comment on page 6, I realized i didn't elaborate at all when saying I went from Bronze to Masters at the season 2 reset within 2 weeks.

*Took me around 200 games

Before season 2, I prepped for a couple weeks coming into that reset.

Part of that prep included
1. Learning build order
2. Watch replays(look at your mechanics, build order, control groups, unit composition(are you building scvs at proper times? are you building proper units), use of money(not letting it stack up).
3. Importance of control groups
4. Map awareness
5.Ignoring personal rank
6.Ignoring apm(if you work on mechanics your apm will go up anyways)
7. Watch the pros(you might not be able to follow everything, but you can at least see some of the fundamentals.
8. and as Zala said above me, practice! Go into starcraft, don't be shy to ladder or lose rank, if you're that worried, find practice partners.
epik
mistokibbles
Profile Joined August 2010
United States68 Posts
July 20 2011 16:29 GMT
#169
From bronze-maybe low masters, I tihnk the most important thing you need is good mechanics. I worked on mine from bronze-platinum by picking 1 build, mine was 3gate expo into whatever i need to counter my opponent's army. I was bronze facing Diamond players and I skipped silver and got promoted to Gold. Now, my mechanics are solid enough for ladder play up at masters league
Chvol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States200 Posts
July 20 2011 16:54 GMT
#170
Getting a gaming mouse is essential to improving your game if you ask me. The keyboard not so much, but upgrading your mouse will make world of difference. steelseries xai and razer death adder are what I can personally vouch for.
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
July 20 2011 20:40 GMT
#171
Practice. Just play the damn game, there is no super top secret way to get better.
Practice till playing Starcraft is like breathing.
When you cant move your fingers watch vods, training videos, Day9 dailys etc.
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 20 2011 20:44 GMT
#172
Whether a Bronze Player can get into masters? Of course, nothing easier to achieve than that!
Get somebody really good, get him a new account, let him lose placement matches and play serious after being placed in Bronze. Whether a Bronze Player, who is in Bronze because of his skill, can get into masters? Possibly, but that's a hard road to take. You need to practise very hard, and in case you need motivation, you can listen to Tempo's Grandmaster song.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
July 20 2011 20:45 GMT
#173
So much useless advice here. What seperates every single tier of starcraft is mechanics. If you want to become better, focus on making your mechanics sharper. Only when you are competing on a majour scale will strategy truly matter, before then you should be mechanically sound enough to beat all other tiers of starcrafters.

So much advice about "watch vods, training videos, day9" like the guy above me, are just a way for you to stagnant your play, all the strategy in the world wont stop JulyZerg from outplaying you 10/10 games, so just get mechanically sound enough to reach masters, and the strategy will be applied accordingly.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Musketeer
Profile Joined August 2010
142 Posts
July 20 2011 20:53 GMT
#174
On July 21 2011 05:45 Holcan wrote:
So much useless advice here. What seperates every single tier of starcraft is mechanics. If you want to become better, focus on making your mechanics sharper. Only when you are competing on a majour scale will strategy truly matter, before then you should be mechanically sound enough to beat all other tiers of starcrafters.

So much advice about "watch vods, training videos, day9" like the guy above me, are just a way for you to stagnant your play, all the strategy in the world wont stop JulyZerg from outplaying you 10/10 games, so just get mechanically sound enough to reach masters, and the strategy will be applied accordingly.

You need both.

I'm a high masters player who recently did a few games as Zerg for fun. The mechanics come easy to me; I play Zerg with over 200 APM and keep my minerals and such very low. It doesn't really matter though - I can lose to platinum Z and T players just because I have bad builds and senseless timings. I don't know any timings at all due to lack of experience so I just lose

At the same time, I play ZvP at a mid masters level simply because I know the builds and timings from playing so much PvZ. If I learned the timings for the other match ups, it would make a 2 league difference.

I think it's a bit pointless to say you need one or the other of either mechanics or builds. You won't get better by cutting out important parts of the game (ie builds) out of your practice regime.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 20 2011 20:56 GMT
#175
On July 21 2011 05:53 Musketeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 05:45 Holcan wrote:
So much useless advice here. What seperates every single tier of starcraft is mechanics. If you want to become better, focus on making your mechanics sharper. Only when you are competing on a majour scale will strategy truly matter, before then you should be mechanically sound enough to beat all other tiers of starcrafters.

So much advice about "watch vods, training videos, day9" like the guy above me, are just a way for you to stagnant your play, all the strategy in the world wont stop JulyZerg from outplaying you 10/10 games, so just get mechanically sound enough to reach masters, and the strategy will be applied accordingly.

You need both.

I'm a high masters player who recently did a few games as Zerg for fun. The mechanics come easy to me; I play Zerg with over 200 APM and keep my minerals and such very low. It doesn't really matter though - I can lose to platinum Z and T players just because I have bad builds and senseless timings. I don't know any timings at all due to lack of experience so I just lose

At the same time, I play ZvP at a mid masters level simply because I know the builds and timings from playing so much PvZ. If I learned the timings for the other match ups, it would make a 2 league difference.

I think it's a bit pointless to say you need one or the other of either mechanics or builds. You won't get better by cutting out important parts of the game (ie builds) out of your practice regime.

This is true. I was high diamond playing a mix of diamond and masters players. I then switched to random and can keep my money low and make a bunch of units etc.. but without refined builds and timings it's so much harder to win games.
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djdoodoo
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom192 Posts
July 21 2011 08:59 GMT
#176
I would suggest though, that you get a better "dream." Maybe a more social one, just have this one on the back burner. It is possible, like I said, i've done it, but it just takes a lot of games and realising how bad you are.
Barkziee
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom138 Posts
July 21 2011 09:24 GMT
#177
I've gone bronze to high diamond so far in a few months, so I suppose its plausible.
Slyce
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 09:28:46
July 21 2011 09:28 GMT
#178
Hi,

I got the game at release I was in bronze because I had never played any RTS before.

I am now high masters and looking to get to grand masters. If you want to put the time in and play you can be good. SC2 is the same as anything in life, if you really want it and you work hard at it, you can have it.

Good luck!

EDIT: typo
http://www.fm-esports.org/
cheeseheadlogic
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States322 Posts
July 21 2011 18:09 GMT
#179
On July 21 2011 05:45 Holcan wrote:
So much useless advice here. What seperates every single tier of starcraft is mechanics. If you want to become better, focus on making your mechanics sharper. Only when you are competing on a majour scale will strategy truly matter, before then you should be mechanically sound enough to beat all other tiers of starcrafters.

So much advice about "watch vods, training videos, day9" like the guy above me, are just a way for you to stagnant your play, all the strategy in the world wont stop JulyZerg from outplaying you 10/10 games, so just get mechanically sound enough to reach masters, and the strategy will be applied accordingly.


Holcomb you're an idiot, I'm guessing you out beat Julyzerg 10/10 because you just focus on mechanics. Players watch to learn builds, play styles, other players mechanics, you can't go in blindly and hope that you've got the right set of hotkeys, right amount of apm, and units just for say.
epik
Sorkoas
Profile Joined May 2010
549 Posts
July 21 2011 22:10 GMT
#180
On July 21 2011 05:45 Holcan wrote:
So much useless advice here. What seperates every single tier of starcraft is mechanics. If you want to become better, focus on making your mechanics sharper. Only when you are competing on a majour scale will strategy truly matter, before then you should be mechanically sound enough to beat all other tiers of starcrafters.

So much advice about "watch vods, training videos, day9" like the guy above me, are just a way for you to stagnant your play, all the strategy in the world wont stop JulyZerg from outplaying you 10/10 games, so just get mechanically sound enough to reach masters, and the strategy will be applied accordingly.

my mechanics are still terrible. i think i prove you wrong.
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