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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 01 2011 04:15 GMT
#41
On July 01 2011 13:13 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 13:10 Milkis wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:08 Aeres wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:05 Milkis wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:05 Aeres wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
It's all about fucking Garchomp and Wobuffet.
Did they nerf him in this gen?

Well, Garchomp was banned to Ubers on the Smogon tier list... again. So I guess you could call that a nerf. Wobbuffet seems to be hanging out in the standard tiers this time around, though. We'll see how that turns out. I won't use him, though, since I prefer bulky offensive teams more than defensive teams. And I hate Wobbuffet too.


What, did they fix Shadow Tag?

More like they nerfed Encore. It doesn't last nearly as long, so Wobbuffet can't get all the Tickles he needs before switching to something that owns the target. Also, since Golurk was introduced, Wobbuffet has a harder time staying alive in the UU tier.


Hrm, Tickle wasn't why it was broken though, Tickle was just cherry on top... how badly did they nerf encore? O_o I know they nerfed from gen 3 -> 4 but they nerfed it again from 4 -> 5?

Encore now lasts 3 turns, always. Including the turn it's used, so you have 2 turns where the opponent is locked into an attack. Yeah, Choiced Pokemon are still fucking destroyed by Wobbuffet, but now there's a lot more breathing room when dealing with it, especially if you have something like Houndoom that can fire special attacks at it and be immune to Mirror Coat.

Oh, and by the way, I forgot to mention something about Wish. Wish now heals the target based on the USER'S maximum HP, so if Blissey used Wish on Snorlax, it'd be pretty much fully healed.


Is Blissey's moveset from Gen 4 still good (I still have my Blissey from Emerald)? Softboiled, Ice beam (or toxic), Aromatherapy, Thunder Wave?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-01 04:18:47
July 01 2011 04:18 GMT
#42
On July 01 2011 13:15 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 13:13 Aeres wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:10 Milkis wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:08 Aeres wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:05 Milkis wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:05 Aeres wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
It's all about fucking Garchomp and Wobuffet.
Did they nerf him in this gen?

Well, Garchomp was banned to Ubers on the Smogon tier list... again. So I guess you could call that a nerf. Wobbuffet seems to be hanging out in the standard tiers this time around, though. We'll see how that turns out. I won't use him, though, since I prefer bulky offensive teams more than defensive teams. And I hate Wobbuffet too.


What, did they fix Shadow Tag?

More like they nerfed Encore. It doesn't last nearly as long, so Wobbuffet can't get all the Tickles he needs before switching to something that owns the target. Also, since Golurk was introduced, Wobbuffet has a harder time staying alive in the UU tier.


Hrm, Tickle wasn't why it was broken though, Tickle was just cherry on top... how badly did they nerf encore? O_o I know they nerfed from gen 3 -> 4 but they nerfed it again from 4 -> 5?

Encore now lasts 3 turns, always. Including the turn it's used, so you have 2 turns where the opponent is locked into an attack. Yeah, Choiced Pokemon are still fucking destroyed by Wobbuffet, but now there's a lot more breathing room when dealing with it, especially if you have something like Houndoom that can fire special attacks at it and be immune to Mirror Coat.

Oh, and by the way, I forgot to mention something about Wish. Wish now heals the target based on the USER'S maximum HP, so if Blissey used Wish on Snorlax, it'd be pretty much fully healed.


Is Blissey's moveset from Gen 4 still good (I still have my Blissey from Emerald)? Softboiled, Ice beam (or toxic), Aromatherapy, Thunder Wave?

Well, Blissey NEEDS an attack move, otherwise Ferrothorn and the gang can set up on it all day. I would probably go for Flamethrower (to deal with the plant bastard), Toxic, Softboiled, and Aromatherapy, although Seismic Toss can be useful for guaranteed damage against non-Ghosts. That's if you're going for status support. Wish/Protect is always a good option.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 01 2011 04:21 GMT
#43
I usually go cleric with Blissey and tag ice beam on it (with thunder wave to cripple those fast targets, also great for stalling).

No idea who Ferrothorn is.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
July 01 2011 04:23 GMT
#44
On July 01 2011 13:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
I usually go cleric with Blissey and tag ice beam on it (with thunder wave to cripple those fast targets, also great for stalling).

No idea who Ferrothorn is.

Ferrothorn is the new really annoying all-purpose wall. Grass/Steel typing, an ability that hurts anything that hurts it, and it gets Spikes and Stealth Rock. AND it can actually do decent damage too. Really annoying, and it's EVERYWHERE.

Without Flamethrower, Ferrothorn shits all over Blissey.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 01 2011 04:25 GMT
#45
Oh lol! I had him when I played a bit of PKM Black.
I dunno if I should get back into the scene of Pokemon. I'm already resisting my urge to play TF2 and my frustration with SC2 ):
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 01 2011 05:07 GMT
#46
Hey, a discussion about Pokemon!
Ah, how I miss Battle Frontier, so fun
How devious | http://anartisticanswer.blogspot.com.au/
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 01 2011 05:37 GMT
#47
On July 01 2011 12:58 Milkis wrote:
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On July 01 2011 12:55 flamewheel wrote:
On July 01 2011 12:54 Aeres wrote:
On July 01 2011 12:53 flamewheel wrote:
I thought this was going to be a blog about Waxangel.

Maybe I should try breeding a Rapidash next...

I have a shiny one!


probably hacked :3

;_;

I am hurt.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 01 2011 06:54 GMT
#48
i enjoyed the story, felt really bad for you, tried to follow what you were saying about breeding, got lost, then you started to talk about battling, got even more lost, now i do not know where i am, i have no shoes, and it is raining. I feel bad for me now,
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and waxangel.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
Mephiztopheles1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1124 Posts
July 01 2011 07:33 GMT
#49
On July 01 2011 13:14 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 13:13 Aeres wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:10 Milkis wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:08 Aeres wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:05 Milkis wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:05 Aeres wrote:
On July 01 2011 13:01 Torte de Lini wrote:
It's all about fucking Garchomp and Wobuffet.
Did they nerf him in this gen?

Well, Garchomp was banned to Ubers on the Smogon tier list... again. So I guess you could call that a nerf. Wobbuffet seems to be hanging out in the standard tiers this time around, though. We'll see how that turns out. I won't use him, though, since I prefer bulky offensive teams more than defensive teams. And I hate Wobbuffet too.


What, did they fix Shadow Tag?

More like they nerfed Encore. It doesn't last nearly as long, so Wobbuffet can't get all the Tickles he needs before switching to something that owns the target. Also, since Golurk was introduced, Wobbuffet has a harder time staying alive in the UU tier.


Hrm, Tickle wasn't why it was broken though, Tickle was just cherry on top... how badly did they nerf encore? O_o I know they nerfed from gen 3 -> 4 but they nerfed it again from 4 -> 5?

Encore now lasts 3 turns, always. Including the turn it's used, so you have 2 turns where the opponent is locked into an attack. Yeah, Choiced Pokemon are still fucking destroyed by Wobbuffet, but now there's a lot more breathing room when dealing with it, especially if you have something like Houndoom that can fire special attacks at it and be immune to Mirror Coat.

Oh, and by the way, I forgot to mention something about Wish. Wish now heals the target based on the USER'S maximum HP, so if Blissey used Wish on Snorlax, it'd be pretty much fully healed.


Blissey and Snorlax on the same team is bad

Blissey wishpassing to Snorlax is even worse o_o;


They can work somewhat ok in a TR team or pseudo-stall team.

Sorry to intervene, but yeah, ever since GF decided that SD needed a nerf and that Drain Punch was in "dire" need of a boost, Snorlax sucks. Shame that such an awesome pokémon gets so completely raped by Conkeldurr. Although it's an amazing bait, considering how many checks and counters he now has.

Also, RNG in Gen V is way too easy if you have a regular or lite DS.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 01 2011 07:58 GMT
#50
Sigh. I bred a Gyarados with perfect Attack IV before. That alone look me many, many, MANY attempts. After that I gave up.

I am happier with the Feebas I captured that naturally came with perfect Spec Attack and decent IV overall.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
lantzuhh
Profile Joined June 2011
10 Posts
July 01 2011 16:20 GMT
#51
does pikachu turn into raichu??

Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
July 01 2011 16:27 GMT
#52
On July 02 2011 01:20 lantzuhh wrote:
does pikachu turn into raichu??

Uh... yeah? lol
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
lantzuhh
Profile Joined June 2011
10 Posts
July 01 2011 16:32 GMT
#53
Noooo!!!! please Noooo!!!!

that means your pikachu was not happy!!!! it turned evil.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
July 01 2011 16:34 GMT
#54
Duly noted.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
aisight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States145 Posts
July 01 2011 18:06 GMT
#55
I never understood why people felt the need to run Softboiled/Aromatherapy when Wish is so much more versatile. If you need the status recovery that badly just run Wish/Heal Bell, it's a completely legal combination and the only difference is you won't be able to recover status for your Soundproof Electrode (lol).

Also, Choice Band was nuts in 4th Gen. You could beat a lot of lesser players running a team of 6 Choice Band users, haha. Nobody wants to switch into an x1.5 power STAB, not even 2x resist Pokémon.

Also, usage in 5th gen seems to be mixed between Blissey (slightly more HP, Leftovers) and Chansey (waaaay more defenses through Eviolite).
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
July 01 2011 18:57 GMT
#56
And all this could have been avoided... if you used pokesav LOL
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
July 01 2011 19:54 GMT
#57
My friend also just posted a FB status about playing pokemon yellow for 50 hours and almost having all 150 pokemon, then having it crash/data be corrupted XD. Oh, the traumaa of poke-disasters...
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
July 02 2011 04:01 GMT
#58
Well, I got my Snorlax back. It was such a hassle, because I was breeding for an hour or two before I realized Pursuit was an egg move. -_- But now my little fatty is ready to rock.

Nickname? Waxangel.

Now to start on Rapidash. I need to honor Flamewheel too, you know. :D
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 02 2011 04:14 GMT
#59
I remember I named my Infernape, Inferrape because it was such a beast starter pokemon.
Dragonite is still broken imo.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
July 02 2011 04:17 GMT
#60
lol Dragonite broken

If Dragonite is broken to you, then I wanna know what sets you're fighting against. Dragonite is by no means a pushover, but his weaknesses are definitely exploitable.
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