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I was on my way to watch X-Men with a couple friends and this happens ...
1. I go into the right lane to turn and I'm behind a Camry, we both come to a stop because a car just passed.
2. In "Picture 4", where you see the car in the back, that was where the cop car was and he was going straight (in the right lane).
3. The car in front decides he has enough room to go into the right lane of "Picture 2" and he starts to move.
4. I check (after I see the Camry start to go) where the cop car is and I conclude even I have room to go into the right lane behind the Camry.
5. I start going and my front passenger side hits his rear driver side. I look to see what happened and he had stopped which was why I hit him.
The other pictures are for reference and the distance from the cop car to the Camry was around 10 car lengths. EDIT: Oh and the lights in "Picture 3" were orange (the lights facing the cop) which would mean he would've have to stop at the intersection.
Now in most cases a rear end is a straight case where the car in the back pays for everything. However, the Camry had already started to go and he had stopped out of nowhere so what I'm wondering is, whose fault is this, and should I take this to court? at worst his fixes will cost $1000 CAD and mine will be close to $4000 CAD =.=
NOTE: I called my insurance agent but they closed at 6PM and I also went to the police station and they also closed at 6PM. So I can't do anything till tomorrow morning so I figured I'd ask here to see what an outsiders opinion on this is.
Last but not least, my entire front side is FUCKED, I'm just estimating but it seems like there's no damage to the frame so it'll cost about 2000 at least ... for the Camry only his rear bumper was messed and its a 2007 and the guy who was driving was like "It's going to cost 2000 to replace the bumper", what a load of shit ...
Picture 1
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sbMwQ.jpg)
Picture 2
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AdnZT.jpg)
Picture 3
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/TPyxK.jpg)
Picture 4
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SKd83.jpg)
2ND EDIT: Added pictures of my baby ...  The cooler is completely pressed up against the frame of the car, the front bumper is completely fucked, and my fender needs rolling, fog light is broken, headlight has a crack on the top corner ... OUISDHFIDFIUSHDOFUISHDIOFU is all I can say.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vXDjd.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gInKU.jpg)
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I don't see how this could possibly not be your fault. If your car is moving, you should be aware of where it's going and what's happening around you.
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On June 12 2011 13:58 Radical wrote:
I don't see how this could possibly not be your fault. If your car is moving, you should be aware of where it's going and what's happening around you.
He went, I went, he stopped all of a sudden. I asked him if that was a normal car and not a cop car would he have just went and he answers "Yes". Then I ask him why did you stop when that cop car didn't have his lights or sirens on, and he answers "It was my decision".
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So the gist of your story is that while you weren't looking, the car stopped and you were accelerating, and you drove into his rear door..?
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On June 12 2011 14:00 H wrote:
So the gist of your story is that while you weren't looking, the car stopped and you were accelerating, and you drove into his rear door..?
I was what you would call "inching forward" and i hit his rear bumper in the corner. I'm not denying that a large part of this is my fault but I don't understand why he stopped.
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I don't think you have a snowball's chance in hell of taking this to court. Live and learn, I guess.
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United States22883 Posts
Unfortunately it doesn't matter why he did it. :/ How bad is it? Any pics of the damage?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Still your fault, man. You can never assume that a car will be where you predict it's going to be. If I'm on the road minding my own business, and someone in front of me puts on the brakes hard for no reason, and I rear-end him, I'm liable no matter what. Even though it's really "his fault", I should have been far enough behind him so that I didn't hit him when he put on the brakes.
It's the same in this situation. Even though it's "his fault" for doing something unpredictable, it's your fault under the law. You should have been more careful; next time, I'm sure you'll look instead of just assuming. It's an expensive lesson to learn :\
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I don't know it sounds like it's both your fault because he stopped for no reason and you weren't paying attention so like you said it's hard to tell.
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I think in either case as long as you're the driver who hits someone else in the back, you are at fault. As much as this sucks due to assholes who suddenly stop, I can't I know of anyone who's not been at fault for rear ending someone.
I had a slightly similar situation a couple years ago where a car made a right at a stop sign onto a relatively busy road. Turns out he only partially made the right, and I didn't see because I had my car loaded with stuff as I was on my way to college. Luckily the other driver agreed to not get the cops involved, we exchanged information and phone numbers, and I never got a call for paying his repair bill which I offered to, so I lucked out pretty well.
I assume with a police car so close you weren't as lucky. Wish you the best of luck getting it all resolved
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The cop car didn't even see it and he just went along ... and I edited the OP with the pictures of my baby ...
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On June 12 2011 14:08 Battleaxe wrote:
I think in either case as long as you're the driver who hits someone else in the back, you are at fault. As much as this sucks due to assholes who suddenly stop, I can't I know of anyone who's not been at fault for rear ending someone.
I had a slightly similar situation a couple years ago where a car made a right at a stop sign onto a relatively busy road. Turns out he only partially made the right, and I didn't see because I had my car loaded with stuff as I was on my way to college. Luckily the other driver agreed to not get the cops involved, we exchanged information and phone numbers, and I never got a call for paying his repair bill which I offered to, so I lucked out pretty well.
I assume with a police car so close you weren't as lucky. Wish you the best of luck getting it all resolved
Oh, by the way, this is an example of why you should always get the cops involved if the other guy is liable 
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Law is stupid, he was stopped, you hit him, it's your fault :/
That sucks, anyone seen Super 8? I liked it.
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You're fucked as far as the law is concerned, unfortunately you'll have to pony up.
Oddly enough the same thing happened to me like 3 blocks west of there. Same turning lane situation on the corner of Harvest Hills Blvd and Country Hills Blvd right at the theater. The minivan in front of me starts to go, so I inch up looking left to check and rear end it going like 2kph.
No noticeable damage to either vehicle, it was literally a crawling pace, but the guy jumps out of the drivers seat and runs to the other side of the van, pulls the sliding door open and pulls out his baby boy... who had spent the fucking afternoon finger painting his face red before they left the house. Scared the shit out of me to see a guy frantically pull what looked like a mangled-faced baby out of the van lol.
I've seen some pretty shitty driving lately. 3 people running reds the last 2 days alone. Dangerous ass drivers in Calgary.
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Yeah, your fault.
You're supposed to keep a distance so that you have time to stop if the car in front of you suddenly slams on the breaks. If you get rear-ended it's never your fault.
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Yeah, it was your fault. Like SolHeim said, you need to keep distance (most people say about 2 cars worth or enough that you can see their wheels minimum). If the driver in front stops or does something weird then you'll be able to react (you don't know what's in front of them, maybe little gracklings for all you know ).
It sucks but it happens, need to be more aware when driving.
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Aren't you the guy that escaped a cop in a car? I seem to remember that blog a long time ago.
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brg this to court so u can pay that guy w.e it costs to repair his rear bumper
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
That sucks man. Gogo 125 hours of tutoring!
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Gonna have to sell a looooooooot of Entus jackets to pay this one off.
What's with you, cars and cops?
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