• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:01
CEST 19:01
KST 02:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy0GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding0Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
🌍 Weekly Foreign Showmatches [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1540 users

University Offers and Life

Blogs > GTR
Post a Reply
Normal
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
January 19 2011 10:19 GMT
#1
As I mentioned before in my 30,000 post blog, I (then) had just applied for several universities, looking to further extend my knowledge on the East Asian region and (hopefully) further my learning of Korean and its related culture.

Unfortunately due to me choking in my final exams (stress, nerves etc), I got into the course I least wanted, which was a Bachelor of Arts at UWS (University of Western Sydney). My intent with this is to do a year over there (as I looked at their classes and they seemed pretty interesting and relevant) and then transferring over to a more higher university (UNSW, USYD or ANU) with the intent of completing my degree, majoring in Korean (UWS doesn't offer a Korean major).

Either way, I'm going to take the year off, to earn some money (I've got a job lined up at a restaurant at the end of the month, I hope), and to see if I can do anything e-Sports related outside of my city, now that I'm out of school.

Anyway... this might be bleak, but are there any forum goers that go to UWS at the moment? Heard lots of stuff about Western Sydney being dodgy, but that's about it.

***
Commentator
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
January 19 2011 11:04 GMT
#2
I go to USYD, but I have friends that go to UWS. It isn't too dodgy or anything from what they say, so I wouldn't worry.
jongim
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada289 Posts
January 19 2011 11:33 GMT
#3
GTR FIGHTINGGG
i am catlul
hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
January 19 2011 11:34 GMT
#4
What dodgy rumours have you heard about UWS? I have a friend there doing a Bachelor of Science degree and she really enjoys it there. Lots of schools get bad reputations just from the area they're in and exaggeration from people that don't even go there. Just out of curiosity what subjects did you do and what were your preferences?
"It's not acceptable"
chogoling
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia173 Posts
January 19 2011 11:36 GMT
#5
if you don't mind me asking, what ATAR did you get?
[TA] Terror Australis
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 11:50:10
January 19 2011 11:40 GMT
#6
On January 19 2011 20:34 hoppipolla wrote:
What dodgy rumours have you heard about UWS? I have a friend there doing a Bachelor of Science degree and she really enjoys it there. Lots of schools get bad reputations just from the area they're in and exaggeration from people that don't even go there.


Sorry, I didn't mean the university itself, but rather the area of Western Sydney (in comparison to other parts where UNSW and USYD are located).

On January 19 2011 20:36 chogoling wrote:
if you don't mind me asking, what ATAR did you get?


70.85

On January 19 2011 20:34 hoppipolla wrote:
Just out of curiosity what subjects did you do and what were your preferences?


English (Advanced), Mathematics, Economics, Modern History, Software Design

After the first year of the course I hated the fucking guts out of all of them except Modern History. Especially Mathematics and Software Design, my brain couldn't handle Maths at all for some reason and I completely lost interest in Software as it was extremely tedious in the end. I really regret doing these subjects looking back in hindsight (ideally I would have liked to have focused more on the humanity-style subjects e.g Legal, Modern and a language of some sort).

My preferences were;
Arts/Asia-Pacific Studies at ANU,
Arts at both UNSW/USYD,
just the Asia-Pacific degree at ANU
then lastly the UWS course.

If somehow I manage to get a second round offer, then I'll definitely jump on it, but for now it looks like UWS.
Commentator
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
January 19 2011 11:42 GMT
#7
IT'S OKAY GTR YOU'LL RAPE UNI

My friend does the exact same course you do, he doesn't like it but he doesn't hate it (enough to motivate him to study and xfer anyway).

If you're aiming to xfer, make sure you don't skip too many days. I got into the habit of not going to Uni and ended up fucking up my first year (was doing so well before I discovered SC2 beta), it'll be even easier to fall into that habit in UWS. I hear your exams are pretty easy though.

gtr fighting
lalala
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
January 19 2011 12:16 GMT
#8
GTR where do you live in OZ? you could also try transferring after the 1st year? If your grades are like 70% (distinction) level above.
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
sammler
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom381 Posts
January 19 2011 12:44 GMT
#9
Hey GTR. So in Australia, you apply to a university, get in, and then you can choose from a variety of subjects once you're there? That sounds awesome. Over here, you have to pick one degree course (Maths, Politics etc) when you're 16/17 and that's that.
"I wish I was good enough to be called bad by IdrA." - Moa
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 19 2011 12:50 GMT
#10
GL GTR~
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
January 19 2011 14:33 GMT
#11
Ouch man, i live in WA and the entrance scores for university are ridiculously low. A score of 70 would easily net a commerce degree into the 'second' best university here. Even engineering is only some where around 80 - 85 at UWA, so doing asian studies at a uni like curtin (which i'm told is not that bad) you would've been able to get in. Then again the competition here is nothing like over east, i feel like a 99.95'er here would only be like 98 over there though i could be mistaken.

Also from the easterners i know, UWS is kind of a joke to them. Its like the ECU of NSW not that you would get that reference.

But i know if you do well at university, transferring should not be too much of a problem.
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
January 19 2011 14:38 GMT
#12
Oh dude, you could go to Macquarie Uni or UTS with that mark, which are both better than UWS. ANU has rather low cut off marks as well, although i don't know how low.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
type_d
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia20 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 02:11:57
January 20 2011 02:10 GMT
#13
On January 19 2011 19:19 GTR wrote:
As I mentioned before in my 30,000 post blog, I (then) had just applied for several universities, looking to further extend my knowledge on the East Asian region and (hopefully) further my learning of Korean and its related culture.

Unfortunately due to me choking in my final exams (stress, nerves etc), I got into the course I least wanted, which was a Bachelor of Arts at UWS (University of Western Sydney). My intent with this is to do a year over there (as I looked at their classes and they seemed pretty interesting and relevant) and then transferring over to a more higher university (UNSW, USYD or ANU) with the intent of completing my degree, majoring in Korean (UWS doesn't offer a Korean major).

Either way, I'm going to take the year off, to earn some money (I've got a job lined up at a restaurant at the end of the month, I hope), and to see if I can do anything e-Sports related outside of my city, now that I'm out of school.

Anyway... this might be bleak, but are there any forum goers that go to UWS at the moment? Heard lots of stuff about Western Sydney being dodgy, but that's about it.


Do you know which campus you're going to? (Edit: I live about 15 mins away from one of the UWS campuses [or campusi?])

While I go to UTS, I do know quite a few people who go to UWS since I live in Western Sydney. Its probably not as bad as people say it is. I don't think there's anything wrong with the university itself (I hear the same complaints about lecturers/tutors/subjects that I hear from other unis), but I think the main difference is the people there.
[TA]eccentric
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia55 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 02:29:33
January 20 2011 02:29 GMT
#14
I'm going to Parra UWS with BSc/BArts lol.

Been getting pissed all morning because of glitches and shit.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
January 20 2011 03:27 GMT
#15
i'll be going to the bankstown campus.
i haven't started on all of the acceptance crap yet, any idea when these offers expire?
Commentator
[TA]eccentric
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia55 Posts
January 20 2011 03:47 GMT
#16
My SRC co-ordinator at school told me to accept all offers because you cal always reject them later on.

I'm not sure when they expire though. Open offers here and accept it. Most probably on this website.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
January 20 2011 03:52 GMT
#17
can you elaborate on how the australian system works for university applications?

and what is ATAR and how does it compare to the SAT? if it is comparable, what SAT score would your score be equivalent to?
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
January 20 2011 03:55 GMT
#18
Looks like offers expire on the 2nd of February, so I won't rush into this I guess.
Commentator
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
January 20 2011 03:57 GMT
#19
I know that offers from Melbourne University ends theirs on the 31st of January.
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-20 04:13:45
January 20 2011 04:06 GMT
#20
On January 20 2011 12:52 LosingID8 wrote:
can you elaborate on how the australian system works for university applications?

and what is ATAR and how does it compare to the SAT? if it is comparable, what SAT score would your score be equivalent to?


hm, i might sound stupid so try and bare with me.

when you enter grade 11, you have to do english (compulsory) and ten other 'units' (english is two units, most courses are two units, while stuff like extension english, extension mathematics are one). two unit courses are like the ap courses you have in america i guess, where you can do stuff like histories, legal studies, economics etc.

at the start of grade 12 you can drop down to ten units, but its optional. i did it because i didn't like the direction physics was going. this is where marks matter. half of what determines your atar comes from assessments throughout the year, the other half from an external examination at the end of the course.

edit: i am aware this applies differently for every state, but this is for nsw.

i think there are way too many variables to do a direct atar -> sat conversion.

edit 2: sorry forgot to talk about how the uni applications work.

basically you can choose whatever course/university you want into. it uses a preference system where your highest preference is the one you get first offered. however all courses have a minimum atar to be considered an offer for. unfortunately the courses i wanted were in the 80-85's and since i fucked up in my exams i had to go to my last preference which was pretty much plan b.
it's all done through a third party, so none of the fancy application to university stuff with essays like you guys have in america.
Commentator
type_d
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia20 Posts
January 20 2011 04:18 GMT
#21
On January 20 2011 12:27 GTR wrote:
i'll be going to the bankstown campus.
i haven't started on all of the acceptance crap yet, any idea when these offers expire?


I haven't heard too much about the Bankstown campus, which is probably a good thing.

From what I understand, campus life isn't that great at any of the UWS campuses (though they have a new anime club). Their student union isn't the greatest, and its difficult to for them to do stuff because of how spread out the whole university is. But as long as you have some friends, you'll get by easily.
[TA]eccentric
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia55 Posts
January 20 2011 04:41 GMT
#22
ATAR is a rank, hence why the conversion to SAT would be ... hard i guess lol.
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
January 20 2011 05:26 GMT
#23
Don't worry! Fight on in University and transfer if you want to! Do it GTR. If you can't do it... then, as my irl friend says, DO IT HARDER.

My marks have dropped considerably too and I don't think I can get into my university of choice. I can still salvage it... hopefully!

GTR HWAITING!
cozzE
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 01:40:28
January 25 2011 01:33 GMT
#24
I went to UWS @ Paramatta and studied Commerce up until mid 2009 GTR (I didn't enjoy Commerce at all). The campus at Parramatta as far as I know is improving alot however the crowd is a tad questionable there, but on the whole UWS isn't actually as bad as alot of people make it out to be.

That being said at the start of 2010 I transferred to Macquarie Uni and am loving it currently whilst doing a Bachelor of Media & Communications . It probably helps that I live within walking distance of the north ryde campus.

On a different note, I swear I saw a poster at uni advertising a BW competition that was on campus about a year ago now (I never played SC before SC2). I couldn't believe it, but it makes sense to me now as theres a pretty big base of Korean international students that study here on campus. :p.

Good luck dude.
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 59m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .310
TKL 161
mouzHeroMarine 124
BRAT_OK 55
MindelVK 14
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3453
Jaedong 1180
Shuttle 801
ggaemo 359
Snow 298
Mini 275
Larva 212
Rush 158
hero 149
Soulkey 145
[ Show more ]
PianO 96
Dewaltoss 69
Sharp 53
Hyun 29
soO 22
scan(afreeca) 22
Terrorterran 20
NaDa 9
Sexy 9
Dota 2
Gorgc7924
420jenkins258
Counter-Strike
fl0m2214
pashabiceps1860
byalli523
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King83
Other Games
FrodaN1391
Grubby1053
B2W.Neo990
Beastyqt755
RotterdaM236
C9.Mang0120
ArmadaUGS107
KnowMe75
Trikslyr54
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Shameless 36
• Adnapsc2 3
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 10
• blackmanpl 5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota259
League of Legends
• Nemesis3400
Other Games
• Shiphtur151
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 59m
The PondCast
16h 59m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 6h
WardiTV Team League
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
OSC
3 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.