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On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.
Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).
Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?
sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault. There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility.
"Not compatible"? It had some issues, and there was some working around to be done about them, but it (BW) works just fine.
Windows 7 is the best OS I've encountered yet.
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The irony is that my frustration with Windows 7 began before it even finished installing. It turned out (at least according to my googling) that Windows 7 installation will get stuck at "Completing installation...". Some of the remedies include some highly non-standard procedures such as removing all USB devices and all but 2gb of RAM (there was no way I could have anticipated it).
Try some patience. My install "froze" at that screen and I started googling. But then eventually it finished. It may take several hours at that screen.
As for removing all usb devices and leaving 2gb of RAM, that is a pretty standard procedure, similar to "safe mode." It's meant to help you so that you can isolate the problem if there really is one. For example, I was getting a bunch of crashes on my Windows 7 computer, until I figured it out it was poor wireless card drivers, which I updated to solve the problem - I had thought it was a video card issue!
I know you are probably really stressed out from trying to get your new computer stuff going, because I really was, but I bet it will end up working out and you will feel great about it then.
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Windows 7 is awesome, it has one flaw and that is its lack of support for Brood War.
Sorry to hear about your install problems, but OS installation issues is hardly exclusive to Windows 7
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Croatia9530 Posts
On December 27 2010 10:51 MinusPlus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.
Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).
Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?
sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault. There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility. "Not compatible"? It had some issues, and there was some working around to be done about them, but it (BW) works just fine. Windows 7 is the best OS I've encountered yet.
You speak from experience?
edit:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1054365/exclusive-directdraw-palette-isnt-actually-exclusive
This is only 1 part of the problem.
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On December 27 2010 11:15 2Pacalypse- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 10:51 MinusPlus wrote:On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.
Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).
Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?
sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault. There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility. "Not compatible"? It had some issues, and there was some working around to be done about them, but it (BW) works just fine. Windows 7 is the best OS I've encountered yet. You speak from experience?
BW had zero problems for me on Win 7.
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Croatia9530 Posts
On December 27 2010 11:18 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 11:15 2Pacalypse- wrote:On December 27 2010 10:51 MinusPlus wrote:On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.
Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).
Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?
sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault. There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility. "Not compatible"? It had some issues, and there was some working around to be done about them, but it (BW) works just fine. Windows 7 is the best OS I've encountered yet. You speak from experience? BW had zero problems for me on Win 7.
Maybe you could enlighten us with your solution in this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382
or this one
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111306
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On December 27 2010 11:15 2Pacalypse- wrote:
You speak from experience?
Yep. Play BW with my roommate once in a while (he can't run/doesn't own SC2), play D2 on LAN with friends once in a while, across whatever combination of windows & mac boxes we can get together the easiest.
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On December 27 2010 11:21 2Pacalypse- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 11:18 cz wrote:On December 27 2010 11:15 2Pacalypse- wrote:On December 27 2010 10:51 MinusPlus wrote:On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.
Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).
Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?
sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault. There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility. "Not compatible"? It had some issues, and there was some working around to be done about them, but it (BW) works just fine. Windows 7 is the best OS I've encountered yet. You speak from experience? BW had zero problems for me on Win 7. Maybe you could enlighten us with your solution in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382or this one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111306
If he didn't have any problems, he doesn't have a solution to give.
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you probably have your harddrives set to SATA (which i don't think w7 supports out the box) instead of legacy IDE
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Microsoft released the figures for the cause of the majority of crashes in windows and nvidia graphics drivers where the main culprit above all. Not that nvidia cards are bad but its usually 3rd party drivers/badly tested hardware that messup rather then the OS.
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Windows 7 is the best OS microsoft has made which isn't necessarily saying much. But it is excellent.
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On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.
Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).
Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?
sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault. There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility.
Do you realize that there has been a working DirectDraw fix for BW for a long time? And also you can't expect a modern OS to work perfectly with DirectDraw games. 
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I love Windows 7 
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I clicked this blog expecting a detailed discussion of the drawbacks of windows 7 (which I haven't gotten yet, but am considering) and so far the biggest problem mentioned is that it froze during installation for some guy.
This is actually making it sound pretty promising.
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I hate win7 because it kills broodwar.
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On December 27 2010 11:24 mahnini wrote:
you probably have your harddrives set to SATA (which i don't think w7 supports out the box) instead of legacy IDE
Windows 7 has no problems installing directly to a SATA HDD, and I'm not sure why you think it would.
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You can use VirtualPC which you can download free from MS and install WinXP or w/e in a virtual environment and play BW fine. I played BW fine in Win7 since Win7 RC until SC2 came out.
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On December 27 2010 12:26 Adeeler wrote:
You can use VirtualPC which you can download free from MS and install WinXP or w/e in a virtual environment and play BW fine. I played BW fine in Win7 since Win7 RC until SC2 came out.
That free thing from MS never worked for me because it always complained it didn't have full screen exclusive mode support. VMWare works fine though.
Did you have to do anything special to make it work?
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On December 27 2010 12:25 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 11:24 mahnini wrote:
you probably have your harddrives set to SATA (which i don't think w7 supports out the box) instead of legacy IDE Windows 7 has no problems installing directly to a SATA HDD, and I'm not sure why you think it would.
it installs fine on SATA hdds using an emulated IDE controller but i don't believe it recognizes a SATA controller out the box. i had this problem before and spent hours trying to figure out what was wrong and figured out that i had AHCI enabled and w7 doesn't work with it. switching it back to legacy IDE fixed it in a jiffy.
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On December 27 2010 12:33 mahnini wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2010 12:25 Mindcrime wrote:On December 27 2010 11:24 mahnini wrote:
you probably have your harddrives set to SATA (which i don't think w7 supports out the box) instead of legacy IDE Windows 7 has no problems installing directly to a SATA HDD, and I'm not sure why you think it would. it installs fine on SATA hdds using an emulated IDE controller but i don't believe it recognizes a SATA controller out the box. i had this problem before and spent hours trying to figure out what was wrong and figured out that i had AHCI enabled and w7 doesn't work with it. switching it back to legacy IDE fixed it in a jiffy.
This, or a variety of other factors (like my graphic card) could be the problem.
At the end I still don't know, unfortunately. I took out my harddrive, inserted into my laptop, and installed Windows 7 that way.
It worked.
Afterwards I put it back to my desktop, installed all of the drivers, and I think at this time it should work smoothly.
Thank god.
It still grinds my harddrive, though. Even though I turned off indexing and defrag already. O well...
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I love Windows 7! It is easily the best OS to date. Of course it's annoying that BW goes to hell on Windows 7 (at least for me and thousands of other people on this forum). But for me, since I play SC2 now, I wouldn't use anything else. It's awesome :D
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