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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 00:52:27
December 27 2010 00:51 GMT
#1
Warning: this is a rant.

I hate Windows 7. Seriously.

If you read my post on Technical Support you'd know that I was considering changing my Windows XP to Windows 7 due to iTunes issues. Well, today is boxing day so I decided today is the time.

The irony is that my frustration with Windows 7 began before it even finished installing. It turned out (at least according to my googling) that Windows 7 installation will get stuck at "Completing installation...". Some of the remedies include some highly non-standard procedures such as removing all USB devices and all but 2gb of RAM (there was no way I could have anticipated it).

As I am writing this I am staring at the still image on my monitor screen (it's one hour), regretting all the time and effort I spent on this stupid piece of crap. I have a feeling that I won't get along with it in the future, either.

Sigh~~~ Good job Microsoft.

*
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howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
December 27 2010 00:57 GMT
#2
windows 7 is awesome
Lyzon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United Kingdom440 Posts
December 27 2010 01:01 GMT
#3
Itunes is the problem... not windows 7
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 01:05:14
December 27 2010 01:03 GMT
#4
I'm not quite sure if your problem got fixed or not (it's unclear from the blog), but I had this exact same problem on a computer a week ago, and went through the same sources trying to find an answer.

Removing the USB devices did not work for me.
Removing ALL unnecessary hardware (including the graphics card, relying on the onboard) did work however.

I remember noticing that the fix was successful very soon after it reached the place where it normally got stuck, but I can't remember how. Still, don't wait 30 minutes between attempts. If it's not doing something after 10 minutes, your attempt didn't work.

Also, I've been using Windows 7 on my main computer since it came out, and it's an amazing improvement on XP. The upgrade is similar to the 98 -> XP upgrade for me. Unlike the 98 -> XP upgrade though, the Win7 upgrade focuses on tons of small improvements rather than one or two major ones (like drivers for XP). I don't think I can live without Win7 anymore

Anyway, hope that helps.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 27 2010 01:05 GMT
#5
I love Windows 7. It sucks that you've gone through so much trouble with W7, but you're probably a very unique case...
:)
grats
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States184 Posts
December 27 2010 01:06 GMT
#6
so far no problems with windows 7
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 01:10:07
December 27 2010 01:07 GMT
#7
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.

Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).

Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?

sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault.
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
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disco
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Netherlands1667 Posts
December 27 2010 01:10 GMT
#8
I think i've installed Windows 7 atleast 30 times now, never had any issues. To me this is certainly the best Windows so far.
this game is a fucking jokie
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
December 27 2010 01:12 GMT
#9
I love windows 7, its actually great
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
December 27 2010 01:12 GMT
#10
On December 27 2010 10:10 disco wrote:
I think i've installed Windows 7 atleast 30 times now, never had any issues. To me this is certainly the best Windows so far.

This just adds to my post.
I guess those 30 installs where also on different computers with different hardware settings and surroundings(usb devices,....)?
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Gatsbi
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1134 Posts
December 27 2010 01:15 GMT
#11
this thread is now about how much everyone loves windows 7...

"IF WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU HAVE KNOWN. THEN YOU HAVE NOT KNOWN ANYTHINIG YET." - Rev Kojo Smith
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 27 2010 01:15 GMT
#12
window 7 is hell lot better than Vista and XP
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 01:27:24
December 27 2010 01:19 GMT
#13
On December 27 2010 10:03 Daigomi wrote:
I'm not quite sure if your problem got fixed or not (it's unclear from the blog), but I had this exact same problem on a computer a week ago, and went through the same sources trying to find an answer.

Removing the USB devices did not work for me.
Removing ALL unnecessary hardware (including the graphics card, relying on the onboard) did work however.

I remember noticing that the fix was successful very soon after it reached the place where it normally got stuck, but I can't remember how. Still, don't wait 30 minutes between attempts. If it's not doing something after 10 minutes, your attempt didn't work.

Also, I've been using Windows 7 on my main computer since it came out, and it's an amazing improvement on XP. The upgrade is similar to the 98 -> XP upgrade for me. Unlike the 98 -> XP upgrade though, the Win7 upgrade focuses on tons of small improvements rather than one or two major ones (like drivers for XP). I don't think I can live without Win7 anymore

Anyway, hope that helps.


Yea I have read all of these already. The problem is whether or not I should stop my installation (hard reboot) and do all of the things you said... or just wait. I am fine leaving it overnight.

On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.

Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).

Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?

sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault.


I am pretty sure I am not the only one having this problem. Some quick googling will make you realize that a lot of people suffer from it.

I don't see how the problem has to do with me. I have very little control over the installation process. I put in the DVD, choose the drive (pre-formated), click OK, and the installation runs. I seriously don't see how it can be my fault. As for the iTunes, I used to use 64 bits Windows XP and Apple only supports 32 bits Windows XP. No, that's not Microsoft's fault - that's Apple's fault. I even tried to tweak the iTunes installer to bypass their version check and that didn't work for me either.
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Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 01:31:29
December 27 2010 01:28 GMT
#14
Well, at least you don't have a mac. You probably would've had to buy another overpriced computer just to upgrade the OS (and a shitty one at that). Be glad that Windows gives you the option of upgrading your computers.

My parents have a mac, and I always get frustrated with the restrictiveness of the operating system. A lot of times, problems aren't even fixable because of how ridiculously restrictive apple is and this leads to dead ends where you're stuck with a brick of a computer. Windows, on the other hand, allows you to do pretty much anything and thus you can usually fix your issue even if it takes more computer know-how and time.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 27 2010 01:35 GMT
#15
On December 27 2010 10:28 Mooga wrote:
Well, at least you don't have a mac. You probably would've had to buy another overpriced computer just to upgrade the OS (and a shitty one at that). Be glad that Windows gives you the option of upgrading your computers.

My parents have a mac, and I always get frustrated with the restrictiveness of the operating system. A lot of times, problems aren't even fixable because of how ridiculously restrictive apple is and this leads to dead ends where you're stuck with a brick of a computer. Windows, on the other hand, allows you to do pretty much anything and thus you can usually fix your issue even if it takes more computer know-how and time.


I'm pretty sure that's why I use Linux now. Hahaha~~~

But yea, I need to stop being angry and tackle on the problem.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
December 27 2010 01:37 GMT
#16
use sharepod its waaaaaaay better than itunes ^^
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
December 27 2010 01:37 GMT
#17
Windows 7 is amazing. Sorry you are having trouble with the installation. I can look up some solutions with my experts exchange account if you'd like. Let me know.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9545 Posts
December 27 2010 01:43 GMT
#18
On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.

Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).

Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?

sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault.

There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 27 2010 01:47 GMT
#19
i wish i had win7
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 27 2010 01:50 GMT
#20
OK.

I think it might be my gforce graphic card. My mobo does not have integrated graphic so there isn't much I can do there.

I guess what I will do is that I will try to either 1) plug my harddrive into my laptop (which uses ATI; hopefully that's OK) and install it there or 2) switch my harddrive with someone else's desktop.
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Minus`
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States174 Posts
December 27 2010 01:51 GMT
#21
On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.

Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).

Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?

sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault.

There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility.

"Not compatible"? It had some issues, and there was some working around to be done about them, but it (BW) works just fine.

Windows 7 is the best OS I've encountered yet.
[11:02:30 PM] <gryzor> calling coh an rts is like calling an sheep a car
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 02:00:14
December 27 2010 01:59 GMT
#22
The irony is that my frustration with Windows 7 began before it even finished installing. It turned out (at least according to my googling) that Windows 7 installation will get stuck at "Completing installation...". Some of the remedies include some highly non-standard procedures such as removing all USB devices and all but 2gb of RAM (there was no way I could have anticipated it).



Try some patience. My install "froze" at that screen and I started googling. But then eventually it finished. It may take several hours at that screen.

As for removing all usb devices and leaving 2gb of RAM, that is a pretty standard procedure, similar to "safe mode." It's meant to help you so that you can isolate the problem if there really is one. For example, I was getting a bunch of crashes on my Windows 7 computer, until I figured it out it was poor wireless card drivers, which I updated to solve the problem - I had thought it was a video card issue!

I know you are probably really stressed out from trying to get your new computer stuff going, because I really was, but I bet it will end up working out and you will feel great about it then.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
December 27 2010 02:10 GMT
#23
Windows 7 is awesome, it has one flaw and that is its lack of support for Brood War.

Sorry to hear about your install problems, but OS installation issues is hardly exclusive to Windows 7
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9545 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 02:18:53
December 27 2010 02:15 GMT
#24
On December 27 2010 10:51 MinusPlus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.

Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).

Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?

sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault.

There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility.

"Not compatible"? It had some issues, and there was some working around to be done about them, but it (BW) works just fine.

Windows 7 is the best OS I've encountered yet.

You speak from experience?

edit:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1054365/exclusive-directdraw-palette-isnt-actually-exclusive
This is only 1 part of the problem.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
December 27 2010 02:18 GMT
#25
On December 27 2010 11:15 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 10:51 MinusPlus wrote:
On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.

Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).

Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?

sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault.

There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility.

"Not compatible"? It had some issues, and there was some working around to be done about them, but it (BW) works just fine.

Windows 7 is the best OS I've encountered yet.

You speak from experience?


BW had zero problems for me on Win 7.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9545 Posts
December 27 2010 02:21 GMT
#26
On December 27 2010 11:18 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 11:15 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On December 27 2010 10:51 MinusPlus wrote:
On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.

Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).

Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?

sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault.

There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility.

"Not compatible"? It had some issues, and there was some working around to be done about them, but it (BW) works just fine.

Windows 7 is the best OS I've encountered yet.

You speak from experience?


BW had zero problems for me on Win 7.

Maybe you could enlighten us with your solution in this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382
or this one
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111306
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Minus`
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 02:24:57
December 27 2010 02:23 GMT
#27
On December 27 2010 11:15 2Pacalypse- wrote:
You speak from experience?

Yep. Play BW with my roommate once in a while (he can't run/doesn't own SC2), play D2 on LAN with friends once in a while, across whatever combination of windows & mac boxes we can get together the easiest.

EDIT:
On December 27 2010 11:21 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 11:18 cz wrote:
On December 27 2010 11:15 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On December 27 2010 10:51 MinusPlus wrote:
On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.

Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).

Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?

sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault.

There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility.

"Not compatible"? It had some issues, and there was some working around to be done about them, but it (BW) works just fine.

Windows 7 is the best OS I've encountered yet.

You speak from experience?


BW had zero problems for me on Win 7.

Maybe you could enlighten us with your solution in this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382
or this one
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111306

If he didn't have any problems, he doesn't have a solution to give.
[11:02:30 PM] <gryzor> calling coh an rts is like calling an sheep a car
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 02:24:44
December 27 2010 02:24 GMT
#28
you probably have your harddrives set to SATA (which i don't think w7 supports out the box) instead of legacy IDE
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Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 02:35:21
December 27 2010 02:34 GMT
#29
Microsoft released the figures for the cause of the majority of crashes in windows and nvidia graphics drivers where the main culprit above all. Not that nvidia cards are bad but its usually 3rd party drivers/badly tested hardware that messup rather then the OS.
Glaven
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada554 Posts
December 27 2010 02:37 GMT
#30
Windows 7 is the best OS microsoft has made which isn't necessarily saying much. But it is excellent.
Special Tactics
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
December 27 2010 02:59 GMT
#31
On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.

Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).

Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?

sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault.

There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility.


Do you realize that there has been a working DirectDraw fix for BW for a long time? And also you can't expect a modern OS to work perfectly with DirectDraw games.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
December 27 2010 03:01 GMT
#32
I love Windows 7
I think esports is pretty nice.
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
December 27 2010 03:11 GMT
#33
I clicked this blog expecting a detailed discussion of the drawbacks of windows 7 (which I haven't gotten yet, but am considering) and so far the biggest problem mentioned is that it froze during installation for some guy.

This is actually making it sound pretty promising.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
December 27 2010 03:16 GMT
#34
I hate win7 because it kills broodwar.
boomer hands
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 27 2010 03:25 GMT
#35
On December 27 2010 11:24 mahnini wrote:
you probably have your harddrives set to SATA (which i don't think w7 supports out the box) instead of legacy IDE


Windows 7 has no problems installing directly to a SATA HDD, and I'm not sure why you think it would.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
December 27 2010 03:26 GMT
#36
You can use VirtualPC which you can download free from MS and install WinXP or w/e in a virtual environment and play BW fine. I played BW fine in Win7 since Win7 RC until SC2 came out.
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
December 27 2010 03:31 GMT
#37
On December 27 2010 12:26 Adeeler wrote:
You can use VirtualPC which you can download free from MS and install WinXP or w/e in a virtual environment and play BW fine. I played BW fine in Win7 since Win7 RC until SC2 came out.


That free thing from MS never worked for me because it always complained it didn't have full screen exclusive mode support. VMWare works fine though.

Did you have to do anything special to make it work?
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
December 27 2010 03:33 GMT
#38
On December 27 2010 12:25 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 11:24 mahnini wrote:
you probably have your harddrives set to SATA (which i don't think w7 supports out the box) instead of legacy IDE


Windows 7 has no problems installing directly to a SATA HDD, and I'm not sure why you think it would.

it installs fine on SATA hdds using an emulated IDE controller but i don't believe it recognizes a SATA controller out the box. i had this problem before and spent hours trying to figure out what was wrong and figured out that i had AHCI enabled and w7 doesn't work with it. switching it back to legacy IDE fixed it in a jiffy.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 03:44:55
December 27 2010 03:43 GMT
#39
On December 27 2010 12:33 mahnini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 12:25 Mindcrime wrote:
On December 27 2010 11:24 mahnini wrote:
you probably have your harddrives set to SATA (which i don't think w7 supports out the box) instead of legacy IDE


Windows 7 has no problems installing directly to a SATA HDD, and I'm not sure why you think it would.

it installs fine on SATA hdds using an emulated IDE controller but i don't believe it recognizes a SATA controller out the box. i had this problem before and spent hours trying to figure out what was wrong and figured out that i had AHCI enabled and w7 doesn't work with it. switching it back to legacy IDE fixed it in a jiffy.


This, or a variety of other factors (like my graphic card) could be the problem.

At the end I still don't know, unfortunately. I took out my harddrive, inserted into my laptop, and installed Windows 7 that way.

It worked.

Afterwards I put it back to my desktop, installed all of the drivers, and I think at this time it should work smoothly.

Thank god.

It still grinds my harddrive, though. Even though I turned off indexing and defrag already. O well...
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
December 27 2010 04:00 GMT
#40
I love Windows 7! It is easily the best OS to date. Of course it's annoying that BW goes to hell on Windows 7 (at least for me and thousands of other people on this forum). But for me, since I play SC2 now, I wouldn't use anything else. It's awesome :D
Oh no
Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
December 27 2010 04:24 GMT
#41
On December 27 2010 12:31 vek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 12:26 Adeeler wrote:
You can use VirtualPC which you can download free from MS and install WinXP or w/e in a virtual environment and play BW fine. I played BW fine in Win7 since Win7 RC until SC2 came out.


That free thing from MS never worked for me because it always complained it didn't have full screen exclusive mode support. VMWare works fine though.

Did you have to do anything special to make it work?


I didn't do much to make it work other then write a batch file to kill explorer(so colours don't mess up) and set it's processor affinity to a single core.

The Virtual PC used to complain I needed a compatible CPU but they updated it so it doesn't. Though I played BW through Win7 directly, was only getting VirtualPC for even older games nostalgia trip.
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
December 27 2010 04:39 GMT
#42
Haven't had any problems with Windows 7, definitely has been the best version of Windows so far for me (since Windows 3.11 too). Performance wise it's far better than Vista, and much more pleasant and stable than XP.
Rising_Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States370 Posts
December 27 2010 04:50 GMT
#43
I have BW on my windows 7 computer, and besides the water color problems it plays perfectly fine for me. I can stand some graphical oddities playing a 10 year old game.
Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes
bakedace
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States672 Posts
December 27 2010 04:51 GMT
#44
I have loved windows 7 so far... wouldnt use anything else tbh.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 27 2010 04:56 GMT
#45
windows 7 is pretty good if you ask me.
Brood War loyalist
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 05:07:27
December 27 2010 05:04 GMT
#46
I love Windows 7, don't be hatin, we all have to deal with technical issues with everything. I spent a couple hours yesterday figuring out how to modify an ini file so that mass effect 2 wouldn't crash on start up, because the devs figured they'd put in some terrible mouse settings and a bad command binding. Ended up needed a user made editor, but all is well. And getting X-wing and Tie-fighter to work took FOREVER. I hope you find a solution to your problem, there is nearly always a fix.

EDIT: I got BW to run without the colour problems. I go into task manager, close the explorer.exe (desktop program) process, and start the starcraft exe through the run command. Once I'm done, use run command to restart the explorer.exe. Hope this helps people. EDIT: Same as batch solution above, but less convenient.
How's the weather down there?
stalking.d00m
Profile Joined December 2010
213 Posts
December 27 2010 06:52 GMT
#47
I had a good laugh by watching this thread go opposite direction of what OP intended. I think the hollywood needs to make a new movie called 'Everybody loves Seven'.
<3 to all fellow gamers.
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
December 27 2010 14:05 GMT
#48
On December 27 2010 13:24 Adeeler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 12:31 vek wrote:
On December 27 2010 12:26 Adeeler wrote:
You can use VirtualPC which you can download free from MS and install WinXP or w/e in a virtual environment and play BW fine. I played BW fine in Win7 since Win7 RC until SC2 came out.


That free thing from MS never worked for me because it always complained it didn't have full screen exclusive mode support. VMWare works fine though.

Did you have to do anything special to make it work?


I didn't do much to make it work other then write a batch file to kill explorer(so colours don't mess up) and set it's processor affinity to a single core.

The Virtual PC used to complain I needed a compatible CPU but they updated it so it doesn't. Though I played BW through Win7 directly, was only getting VirtualPC for even older games nostalgia trip.


Yeah I could get games like Castle of the Winds to work but SC wouldn't launch because it needed full screen exclusive mode. Might try again after those updates because it was quite some time ago I gave it a shot.

Dunno why but my W7 hates BW with a passion. I can only get it to work with DDHack which doesn't let me log onto battle.net to have BGH funtimes or strip aerith :~(
Seltsam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States343 Posts
December 27 2010 15:14 GMT
#49
On December 27 2010 10:43 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 10:07 MasterReY wrote:
If this werent be a blog i would've hoped you get banned for this.
Such a ignorant wrong post.....
Just because YOU have problems with it, which may be related to some hardware errors or anything else on YOUR side it doesnt mean its microsofts fault.

Millions of people have been installing and working with windows 7 perfectly fine.
I just installed it myself 1 week ago. NO problems at all. 4gb ram. several usb devices plugged in (charging cable for mobile phone, usb hub, usb stick, webcam).

Please please please dont act like this happens with every windows 7 out there and microsoft is 100% guilty for it. Because the main problem is you.
This feeling is increased because you also have "issues" with itunes on XP.....
But thats also microsofts fault i guess, right?

sorry about the harsh "counter-rant" but i just hate people who blindly bash on others because they cant get their stuff working, which is 90% their own fault.

There's no need to be so aggressive. Windows 7 definitely has some short comings. The biggest one should be known to most people here, is that Windows 7 is not compatible with old games, ie. BW. This is a huge blunder by Microsoft, because their main policy and the reason why they are so big, is backwards compatibility.


Unless you have Virtual PC which basically makes Windows 7 every operating system. Kind of.
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