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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
 Any especially memorable rage stories? I'd ninja record one of my roommate's rage sessions but I don't think he'd like that showing up on TL very much. edit - haha the sidebar title is "Rekrul and ..." I bet I'm gonna get a lot of dissapointed viewers. In fact, I'd go all in on it.  | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11597 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28798 Posts
your friend sounds like someone that should just drop poker, but these sort of temper problems transfer to other aspects of your life as well so he should probably seek therapy in addition. it's not like you have to love losing or whatever, most "successful" people are somewhat compeditive because that is a powerful motivator, but being angry for hours about losing because of bad luck when you voluntarily decide to gamble is just stupid. | ||
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11597 Posts
anyways. if you tilt like raging elephant with shit stuck up its ass when you lose a hand, then maybe poker is not for you. But I was being sarcastic in the post beforehand. I used to tilt (no holes in the wall etc... though) and then chainsmoke a few cigarettes and then newb bash on pgt or iccup. but getting rid of tilt will make you a 1000x better player. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
"I swear if I get drawn out again with a 50% chance I'm going to quit poker for a month" | ||
Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
(ur roommate is a loser) | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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micronesia
United States24773 Posts
Man if my roommate was like that I'd be pretty pissed... having him raging every time he got a bad beat and shit? No thank you! | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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`Zapdos
United States935 Posts
On December 16 2010 10:52 Rekrul wrote: too cool to care (ur roommate is a loser) Rofl so cold man.. | ||
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CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11597 Posts
On December 16 2010 11:05 HeavOnEarth wrote: straight vs set on flop is hardly a "suck out", the money is going in anyways and hell, isn't it only 3:2 odds in favor of the straight? yea i didn't care at all i was more surprised by the other players at my table about how losing $X00 in a single hand is 'tilt' worthy. i was like uhh w/e here's $500 more gimme chips. | ||
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
On December 16 2010 11:02 Slayer91 wrote: In general I don't see how you can understand poker well and still rage so hard . 60:40 is a good decision it doesn't even matter if you win or lose. What's with the mentality, if I win a 60:40 or a 90:10 its expected, no reaction, if you lose its rage mode? It makes no sense, poker is based much off winning in the long term, not better odds = win 100%. Why is it so hard to believe that people can be affected emotionally by things that are beyond their control? It's a very natural response to be unhappy when something unfavorable happens to you, even if are completely aware of its possibility. People do not make a logical choice to go into a rage, they just do. Some people are better than others at rationalizing the situation and dealing with the outcomes logically. Perhaps you are one of those people, so you have a hard time understanding others who are not as good at it. | ||
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
Tell him to download a program which can calculate EV winnings like Hold'em Manager. At least then he can shift his complaining from "getting sucked out on" to "running bad" =/ | ||
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NeVeR
1352 Posts
This is what happened a few weeks ago in a long tilty session where I was continually getting it in with the best and losing over and over and over. ![[image loading]](http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9636/wallf.jpg) I've still been too lazy to fix it. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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KwarK
United States43991 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5114 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On December 16 2010 11:19 Slithe wrote: Why is it so hard to believe that people can be affected emotionally by things that are beyond their control? It's a very natural response to be unhappy when something unfavorable happens to you, even if are completely aware of its possibility. People do not make a logical choice to go into a rage, they just do. Some people are better than others at rationalizing the situation and dealing with the outcomes logically. Perhaps you are one of those people, so you have a hard time understanding others who are not as good at it. You're choosing to play a game where you are guaranteed to lose lots of money with good decisions and good odds, but if you play well you'll win money overall. If you rage so hard at taking bad beats why would you ever play poker.. Maybe you're right though, even in sc2/bw the worst I get with 10 game or so losing streaks is mouthed//whispered swears and clenched fists or whatever. (I still get pretty angry but I never break anything you just need to calm down a bit). | ||
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meeny
United States40 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
I think it's really immature and shows bad character when you get upset over bad beats though. Even though my brother was a winning player (and constantly told me he should be winning a lot more if his stats looked anything like they were supposed to for the length of time he'd played), I'm sure he played worse than he could have without it, and it was really fucking annoying to overhear while I was doing my own work. Anyone who rages over this type of stuff is just a big baby and needs to grow up. That counts for people who rage in SC, and it counts doubly so for people who rage in poker. | ||
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
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Liquid`Zephyr
United States996 Posts
On December 16 2010 10:50 Liquid`Drone wrote: you handle it by a) not becoming angry by stuff that is outside your own control and determined by luck (by far preferable, but this option is only possible to pick if you're reasonably calm as a person), b) only playing limits where your bankroll can handle the swings, and c) playing so much that you've literally experienced everything as the first cut is the deepest and eventually you will be numbed. pretty much all 3 of these together unless you're nazgul all else fails if you have a big ego you can find an enormous sense of pride in not tilting. thats what worked for me...its just embarassing -.- | ||
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Seltsam
United States343 Posts
On December 23 2010 09:49 Chef wrote: it counts doubly so for people who rage in poker. I actually disagree there. The reason I don't get frustrated at SC losses is that I can usually attribute it to something I did wrong (unless I'm playing a team game). I usually only get upset if something happened that isn't in my control. In poker, you can do everything right then just lose. To me, that's way more annoying than having a discernible error that can be corrected.  | ||
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Gatsbi
United States1134 Posts
On December 23 2010 15:58 Liquid`Zephyr wrote: pretty much all 3 of these together unless you're nazgul all else fails if you have a big ego you can find an enormous sense of pride in not tilting. thats what worked for me...its just embarassing -.- This is actually really solid advice, pride yourself on not tilting. Feel like you're a fucking badass of poker because you don't tilt. | ||
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Joementum
787 Posts
Phil Hellmuth | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Horrde
Canada302 Posts
Eventually I got to be a decent troll with it. I'd normally have his tables off to the side and would watch them for any big pots he'd play. Whenever he got sucked out on, I'd pick the table out and quickly look up the hand history and yell out stuff like "HA!! Stacked the sucker with my J4o!" or "Got another fish all-in pre with my pocket threes! They never learn!" or whatever hand he lost to. Our doors were open so he'd rage pretty hard. He caught on pretty quickly obviously, but it still fueled his tilt rage to no end. | ||
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guN-viCe
United States687 Posts
stop losses and taking breaks are a poker players best friends. bad luck HAS to happen. if it didn't, poker would be rigged. | ||
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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MetalMarine
United States1559 Posts
On December 23 2010 16:46 Joementum wrote: For those people saying "He can't be a pro because he rages" then I have one name for you all: Phil Hellmuth Well Phil Hellmuth is good and a multi-time WSOP champion, andddd he is kind of doing it because the TVs make it seem like its his character. I bet he's just playing along with it for the TV time. He has an ass ton of money, you really think he cares that much? The people who rage and punches walls after a bad beat are probably terrible at just keeping their cool, which is quite important in poker. To the original post, tell your friend to QUIT poker, he's going to probably have a lot of mental issues if he can't control himself. | ||
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Coramoor
Canada455 Posts
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