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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
This is why I'm playing BW all the time even though SC2 is just sitting on my computer. >.> Granted SC2 is fun...I don't think there's a lot of people who deny that it doesn't provide some entertainment, but to me it's much easier to get bored in SC2 than it is to get bored in BW. | ||
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Lexpar
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:40 Medzo wrote: Every time there is one of these threads there is always someone like this that has no clue what hes talking about. I can see how you think this at a low level of play though which is why a lot of people that have only played sc2 don't take the majority of BW opinions seriously. Well I reached C+ on iccup and I'm around mid diamond (if that really means anything now, i dunno) so I'm not really THAT low leveled. I've been playing Sc2 since it came out and I've been playing BW for a few years so I'm not really that low leveled....(account was thescorpio(OD) if you care). Care to tell me where and why I'm wrong instead of making unsubstantiated statements? Also perhaps read this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem Btw I find statements like this hilarious: a lot of people that have only played sc2 don't take the majority of BW opinions seriously. . Sc2-only players looking down on BW players LOL | ||
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crayhasissues
United States682 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On October 25 2010 00:49 Scruffy wrote: I mean everytime a game or movie is revolutionary (think Halo or The Matrix), fans will NEVER be satisfied with the sequel. So i guess we should play BW for 20 more years with the outdated graphics and such. Im sure it will really help grow esports. I did play BW and loved it, but SC2 is here. The two games can coexist, but it seems like the BW players don't want it that way. Way to generalize. I think Halo 2 sucked and that Halo reach surpasses Halo 1. I also love CoD4 way more than I liked any of the earlier CoD games. Civilization 5 is the best Civilization game, better than 3, and Supreme Commander Forged Alliance improved on the original. As for the matrix, it's not nostalgia bogging down the sequel. It's just that the sequel was absolutely atrocious by any standards. Bad example. You really shouldn't be shallow and go "new game is here, it's better than the old" without having any actual reasons other than "oooh good graphics" (once again really shallow). I've played sc2 a lot and i did it with an open mind but i just feel in terms of gameplay its simply inferior to the original. Don't really care about graphics | ||
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alexpnd
Canada1857 Posts
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crayhasissues
United States682 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On October 25 2010 04:04 Scruffy wrote: Then play BW. I really don't mind at all. Im just tired of the general attitude that SC2 is easy mode and only newbs play it. While it does automate some things that BW didn't, it just means that matches will be decided more by strategy and other factors than messing up in early game. Which is fine by me. Hey what was your rank on iccup btw? | ||
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crayhasissues
United States682 Posts
On October 25 2010 04:09 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: Hey what was your rank on iccup btw? I didn't play ICCUP till late in BW, I don't even remember what rank I was. I don't try to play professionally, I play for fun. I didn't know you were pro. Never heard of you. | ||
mustaju
Estonia4505 Posts
On October 25 2010 05:24 Scruffy wrote: I didn't play ICCUP till late in BW, I don't even remember what rank I was. I don't try to play professionally, I play for fun. I didn't know you were pro. Never heard of you. Playing on the ICCUP server and getting ranked is no different from the SC2 ladder. What are you insinuating? | ||
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crayhasissues
United States682 Posts
On October 25 2010 05:35 mustaju wrote: Playing on the ICCUP server and getting ranked is no different from the SC2 ladder. What are you insinuating? I was insinuating what I said. I play for fun, therefore ICCUP rank doesn't really matter to me. I'm not arguing with you guys anymore. Go play BW and I'll play SC2. | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On October 25 2010 05:24 Scruffy wrote: I didn't play ICCUP till late in BW, I don't even remember what rank I was. I don't try to play professionally, I play for fun. I didn't know you were pro. Never heard of you. Lol. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On October 25 2010 05:35 mustaju wrote: Playing on the ICCUP server and getting ranked is no different from the SC2 ladder. What are you insinuating? There is a difference.There's a reason why ICCup is preferred over the ordinary Blizzard system. . It's because you get a letter.  | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
Sure, you can say that TLO, Idra, Jinro, etc are all high level, and I'd agree with that. But when you look below the best of the best, you see that sooooooooooo many people still fall into that 1 control group syndrome thing. I was watching a stream of a tournament the other day, (I think it was gunrun stream, forgot the tournament) and watched a player just run his whole ball of MnM into collossi. I was like, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? YOU JUST THREW THE GAME! Wtf... At least broodwar foreigners knew how to flank. -_-" In fact, the game FORCED them to split their units and so forth. Ugh. Idk, the skill level needed to be considered "pro" in SC2 is just depressing. Please, give the actual pros some dignity and don't compare random diamond players to them. Another thing I miss, the fact that people accepted Koreans kill at this game.  I feel like a lot of people play SC2 because it's easier therefore they think they'll be on even grounds with Koreans and can take them down. Come on now, lol. Foreign players aren't winning GSL. Let's be realistic here... but w/e. We can all hope anyway. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On October 25 2010 00:49 Scruffy wrote: I mean everytime a game or movie is revolutionary (think Halo or The Matrix), fans will NEVER be satisfied with the sequel. So i guess we should play BW for 20 more years with the outdated graphics and such. Im sure it will really help grow esports. I did play BW and loved it, but SC2 is here. The two games can coexist, but it seems like the BW players don't want it that way. Personally i wish SC2 had never came out, and BW was still the #1 game | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On October 24 2010 14:40 Medzo wrote: Every time there is one of these threads there is always someone like this that has no clue what hes talking about. I can see how you think this at a low level of play though which is why a lot of people that have only played sc2 don't take the majority of BW opinions seriously. Every time there is one of these threads, there is always some scrubass who think they know wtf they are talking about. Iccup rank SC2 ladder rank plz. sc2 players looking down on BW players rofl. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On October 25 2010 05:46 Scruffy wrote: I was insinuating what I said. I play for fun, therefore ICCUP rank doesn't really matter to me. I'm not arguing with you guys anymore. Go play BW and I'll play SC2. Sure get the fuck out of this thread pls :-( On topic, I just watched ACE vs MBC and realized that actually BW was far from dead, watch set 4 asap, you will get goosebumps ! I just hope that Blizzard stops his PR bullshit and gets raped in court for the sake of the korean pro-scene. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27179 Posts
On October 24 2010 13:51 Hikko wrote: I do miss some aspects of Brood War. I don't miss the Dragoon AI I don't miss the sheer amount of units that were just useless/overly situational I don't miss Scarab AI I don't miss the UI that didn't register your actions when you went too fast I don't miss 12-unit control groups I don't miss the manual worker placement to minerals I don't miss memorizing intricate setups in order to make ling-proof wall offs in every position on every map I don't miss the crummy worker AI I don't miss iCCup smurfs I don't miss all the drop hackers I don't miss all the map hackers I don't miss crappy old Battle.Net After seeing the GSL finals and now the Boxer vs FruitDealer showmatch, I know for a fact that Starcraft 2 can surpass every single epic game of Brood War, even on the current map pool. Somehow I doubt that you are too fast for the UI and Jaedong isn't:p | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On October 25 2010 08:43 Manifesto7 wrote: Somehow I doubt that you are too fast for the UI and Jaedong isn't:p I thought that problem mostly came from that fact that when people press 1a+left click their finger is still on the mouse when they press 2a so the 2a doesn't register and a control group is left behind. I don't think speed has anything to do with it not registering but just the timing and accuracy of your clicks. | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
On October 25 2010 04:04 Scruffy wrote: Then play BW. I really don't mind at all. Im just tired of the general attitude that SC2 is easy mode and only newbs play it. While it does automate some things that BW didn't, it just means that matches will be decided more by strategy and other factors than messing up in early game. Which is fine by me. if you mess up early game you are just bad, this is the same across every game, ever... "oops lolol i made probes for ten minutes and didn't tell any of them to mine so i lost! thank god this is fixed for me in sc2 so now i can concentrate on important things like strategy!" | ||
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