ZvT Imbalance: How to make a successful thread. - Page 3

On August 06 2010 23:47 Happy.fairytail wrote:


The problem I have with all these kinds of threads is that they're all just whining. If you wanted to get better, you'd post replays and ask for feedback -- not rage about how the game is stacked against you. Simple as that. Do you want to whine, or do you want to get better?

I really wonder why mods don't automatically close any thread that talks about imba when they don't include replays.

On August 07 2010 00:14 Logo wrote:


Part of the problem with the match-up is that it's hard to actually do this. There have been some good ZvT 'ideas' or improving on your ZvT threads, but it can only go so far. It's really easy to take a ZvT match and say, "Well if player did x,y,z they'd win" but that doesn't really count for a whole lot. First off playing mechanically better will always help you win, that's fine and good, but it's not really something you need to ask help for. As for the actual strategies a big part of the matchup's problem is that there are so many things a Terran can throw at you and in such flexible ways.
Usually the advice is something that would win that one particular game, but that's completely useless because the next 20 times you play terrans you're going to be seeing completely different stuff that demands completely different style of play.

Without zerg having more ways of restricting Terran options it's really hard to solicit advice on the matchup. By comparison when it's ZvP it's very easy to give advice. ZvP can feel very unfair at times to players, but you see little whining on the matchup and that's why (well also because it's more balanced). It's easy to look at replays or ask for advice, see what you did wrong, then apply it to the next game and actually have it result in some sort of improvement.

On August 06 2010 17:45 Entropic wrote:


You don't need perfect english to get the phd (specially in hard sciences, math, economics, CS).

On August 29 2010 22:09 Affluenza wrote:
Zerg still need numerous patches from the looks of it...

Zerglings - Speedlings seem to have too much of a cannon fodder utility to them.
Hydra - Speed increase and HP of 100 plz oh and make me viable in ZvT by giving me armour unit bonus damage of 2 or 3+. Tank and Psystorm fodder is what Hydralisk is atm.
Roach - Give me back my Armour and give me speed from the off also range increase to 4 plz k thanks!
Queen - Should not need Spawning pool. Faster spawn larvae cycles maybe 35 seconds.
Spire - Lower the Spire time 10-15 seconds
Infestor - Neural Parasite needs to be at least 20 or 30 seconds
Spine Crawler - Marauder fodder. Spines should not be considered a structure.
Overseer - Needs a 25 reduction maybe even a 50 gas reduction!
Adrenal Glands Needs a buff!

On August 07 2010 01:14 Happy.fairytail wrote:
I'm not sure what the issue here is -- are you saying it's hard to improve by watching and receiving commentary on your replays? Because Zerg doesn't have initiative in the early game to take control of the game (because almost every Zerg FEs), so there isn't a single build order that lets you dictate the pace of the game 20 times in a row?

In the end, watching and analyzing replays is one of the best and most concrete ways of improving yourself. What do you suggest Zerg do instead?

Let's get to the heart of the issue ... no match up is beyond 45-55 right now, and overall the race win/ratio is within a couple of % of even, according to Blizzard posts. Ultimately, skill is a much higher determinant of whether you win or loss a match. Yes, race may provide you a 5-10% boost in your probability of winning, but the other 90-95%? That's you, and only you are responsible for that 90-95%. So man up, and take responsibilitiy for that 90-95%, and post replays, cuz that's a far better way of upping your win % than posting complaints about imbalance on the forums.