• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:17
CEST 23:17
KST 06:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 20269Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)
Tourneys
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
Fantasy returning? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion GG Lan Fest Sofia, Bulgaria [this November] Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9323 users

I hate marauders. - Page 2

Blogs > ghermination
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
July 16 2010 17:02 GMT
#21
arent u the guy who is on the run from the law

glad ur doing better man
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 16 2010 17:07 GMT
#22
On July 17 2010 00:12 ghermination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 00:01 danl9rm wrote:
On July 16 2010 23:36 ghermination wrote:
On July 16 2010 23:26 gillon wrote:
What patch is this replay from? Cause I can't open it.

Like an hour ago.
On July 16 2010 23:26 citi.zen wrote:
On July 16 2010 23:18 ghermination wrote:
On July 16 2010 23:14 FortuneSyn wrote:
void ray is the key

I just get the feeling that he would have added a few marines to the mix as well as a couple more vikings instead of medivacs.
+ Show Spoiler +
Also whenever i post a blog i have this sinking feeling that it should have gone somewhere else but i think if i put this in the sc2 section i would have been banned

If you make him add enough marines and more vikings to the mix, you've done your job.

PvT currently reminds me a lot of ZvT in BW - where the "standard" build would involve some muta harass to keep the terran in their base for as long as possible, force turrets and kill the occasional worker/building. The mutas rarely won the game, they just bought time to get the 3rd expo up and tech.

So i should've added VR's at the expense of immortals? Wouldn't he have just run me over with his marauders once he added another couple vikings?


void rays destroy vikings w/o marine support

edit: the 'trick' if you want to call it that, is to keep your void rays moving, always, toward the viking. void rays can still shoot on the move just like phoenixes.

Okay. Seems to make good enough sense. Do you have any replays or anything of void rays being used against this specific unit composition (marauders + vikings) so i can see how one should react to scouting information etc?



I was only expounding on what someone else said above. I don't do that. I prefer brute force zealots w/legs and sentries.

If the terran tries to get feisty just lure him back into your natural where you forcefield him in and let your zealots own him up. gg.

but, whatever you do, don't screw up your forcefields. if you do, back out. don't use you sentry energy to help his army.
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
July 16 2010 17:21 GMT
#23
On July 16 2010 23:18 ghermination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 23:14 FortuneSyn wrote:
void ray is the key

I just get the feeling that he would have added a few marines to the mix as well as a couple more vikings instead of medivacs.
+ Show Spoiler +
Also whenever i post a blog i have this sinking feeling that it should have gone somewhere else but i think if i put this in the sc2 section i would have been banned


A stargate forces T to be more marine heavy, meaning you can tech to 3 gate zealot speed. The whole objective with the void ray is to force T to go a heavier marine composition, which sets your zealot legspeeders very nicely.

I personally open 2gate stargate 2 phoenixes, scout his base and adapt. void ray if he is being marauder greedy. sentry deal with a push up the ramp till the void ray comes if necessary.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
July 16 2010 17:29 GMT
#24
I just hate how "unfun" it is to play against concussive shells.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 17:36:03
July 16 2010 17:35 GMT
#25
Really guys, marauders? I just go zealot sentry immortal early game and you have enough forcefield to root him down and slap him hard. You can't really take that seriously unless he's got ghosts.

Once you can keep your sentry count high because your zealots/immortals most of the fire concussive shells isn't a problem.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 17:38:34
July 16 2010 17:37 GMT
#26
On July 17 2010 02:35 Slayer91 wrote:
Really guys, marauders? I just go zealot sentry immortal early game and you have enough forcefield to root him down and slap him hard. You can't really take that seriously unless he's got ghosts.

Once you can keep your sentry count high because your zealots/immortals most of the fire concussive shells isn't a problem.

Except one ghost can pretty much completely shut that down with rediculous emp range? Sentry heavy is easily killed once they get zapped. Because you don't have much gas for stalkers with that build, and sentries have a short attack range, you can never snipe the ghosts before they emp.
U Gotta Skate.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 17:54:18
July 16 2010 17:51 GMT
#27
Why would you ever want stalkers vs marauders? They have 1 more range than a sentry or immortal and its not like you're going to snipe a ghost. Stalkers get owned so hard by both emp [50% hp, as bad as sentries and immortals] and marauders. If you ever beat a marauder army with stalkers you used more than 2x the gas and more minerals than him to win. thats not including emp.

And I don't clump everything together to get hit by one emp either. It's pretty much my basic pvt I haven't been owned by one emp yet

When storm comes out we have a different story..
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
July 16 2010 18:05 GMT
#28
On July 17 2010 01:14 Naib wrote:
You must be one helluva awesome fugitive so that you have time to play SC2 while hiding from the authorities.

Major props dawg!


Come to think of it, since that other guy got banned for his made up story about his korean girlfriend, shouldn't this guy be banned for the months (years?) of lying about being some drug baron who in his spare time engages in debates on the internet over computer hardware, you know when not on the run from the feds, or killing some snitch or in a shootout with colombians what ever it is this guy pretends to do
lFrost
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States295 Posts
July 16 2010 18:52 GMT
#29
i saw the rep, you can use a ground army to kill his maras, you just need to use offensive forcefields so less maras are hitting your army at one time. also your unit positioning, where you attack, and when you atk are awful. most of the big battles you lose are because half of your army is hitting his buildings inside his base while the other half gets wiped out. also when its late game like that, it'd probably be a better idea to go after his expo instead of getting into his main
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-16 19:07:33
July 16 2010 19:06 GMT
#30
I still think marauders and marines should always stim for 25% of their maxed out life instead of 10.

Stim basically has no downside for marauders, ever.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
lFrost
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States295 Posts
July 16 2010 19:14 GMT
#31
On July 17 2010 04:06 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I still think marauders and marines should always stim for 25% of their maxed out life instead of 10.

Stim basically has no downside for marauders, ever.


yeah thats why stim costs money and is a called an upgrade
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 58m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 571
ProTech142
RuFF_SC2 115
Nina 105
Liquid`TLO 86
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18737
firebathero 84
Bale 20
PianO 12
Sacsri 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever224
canceldota44
League of Legends
Doublelift3271
Counter-Strike
fl0m1063
Super Smash Bros
PPMD38
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu983
Other Games
summit1g5762
FrodaN1250
shahzam559
Beastyqt499
mouzStarbuck309
B2W.Neo271
ToD257
C9.Mang0192
RotterdaM93
Mew2King32
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile154
• StrangeGG 43
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 26
• niya90s 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1174
• Shiphtur641
Upcoming Events
OSC
58m
Replay Cast
1h 43m
OSC
1d 1h
Big Brain Bouts
1d 12h
Rex vs INexorable
GgMaChine vs HeRoMaRinE
Reynor vs herO
AI Arena Tournament
1d 19h
BSL: Ladder Tournament
1d 21h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.