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Alright, I've been a member for TL.net for like over half a decade and I have over 1500 posts (not a lot but still).
I've been banned twice so I know what that feels like and I love all sections ranging from General to blogs to Starcraft and I even have the TL.net t shirt
So basically.. I've got TL.net blood running through my veins is what I'm trying to say.
But as many of you know, I've posted my fair share of "Girl trouble" blogs and after my most recent one dealing with the girl at work "Girl at work blog"
I gotta say that the ones who call me out for being a pussy, and that I gotta start acting like I don't care or whatever, or act more confident and pretend like I'm not interested or don't be too over animated, etc, etc, etc.
Alright, 95% of the advice is pure bullshit. Lets be honest.
I've read all the feedback guys gave me and it actually backfired. Now it's just pure quiet between the two of us.
After I finally got a shift with her again, She didn't even feel like I hit on her with the phone thing. She jut thought it was actually funny. So the reason why she left right after I said that joke? It was because it was 2am and she was actually fucking tired.
Anyway, so now I thought I got a fresh start so instead of doing what I was doing, I started following the advice of some specific guys on TL.net who seemed so fucking sure what they were doing but nope.
Now she just thinks I hate her for some odd reason and she doesn't even look me in the eye anymore. She tries to joke around and see what I'm doing but I guess the whole, "don't be too into her and show weakness" advice has now made her think that I think shes fucking dirt.
So now I don't even know what to do. Cuz if I start being all nice and shit again like before, she's gonna start thinking I got moodswings
Anyway, the point of this blog is not to ask for anymore advice. And although it doesn't seem like it, this blog isn't to offend any users who gave me advice either!
I'm just writing this to say... for any guy who is having trouble or whatever with girls. The decision is all yours. It's no one else's fault. You gotta make your own decisions and if the advice someone is giving you doesn't feel right.. then it probably isn't right.
Just keep doing what you think is right and even if you fail in the end... well just keep going. You'll eventually just man up and learn the tricks of the trade which apply to your own personality and your own physical traits. Because let's face it.
A good looking guy acting like a jerk will still get the girl most of the times. A fugly midget acting like a jerk will just get shut down 100%.
So you gotta just figure out what works for you. And I've decided what works for me is not being a fucking dbag. What does work is just being playful, honest, confident and straight up.
Playing mind/feeling games is "no thx"
   
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The odds of someone getting into an actual meaningful lasting relationship by being fake aren't very good. The odds of getting laid are probably much much higher.
Most people are just so insecure and unsure that they have to be fake on some level.
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Just because you're planning to do the right thing doesn't mean you executed it properly. Since it's the opinion of many people versus just yourself, I'm going to go ahead and say you fucked up somehow.
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tbh 80% of the time it doesn't really matter what you do. As long as you do it with authority and confidence it would work. or else no amount of what people say willwork.
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Just be confident and true to yourself. Don't listen to these guys who got "game". Even if they do get laid, who cares, they are heartless.
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i like how you give advice yourself lol
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On July 03 2010 07:22 Weasel- wrote: Just because you're planning to do the right thing doesn't mean you executed it properly. Since it's the opinion of many people versus just yourself, I'm going to go ahead and say you fucked up somehow.
Not really bro.
If you read the thread I was referring to; a lot of people said don't say anything to her other than "Hey"
So that's what I did. When she noticed I wasn't acting like myself by talking anymore, she just said "What's wrong?" And well.. obviously nothing is wrong so I said "nothing"
And she just started getting a vibe that I hated or something because I wasn't doing the same shit I used to like splash water at her when we were at the sinks, or throw cupcake pasting on her arm or play footsies by the expresso machine, etc
I just... worked and didn't say anything to her unless she said something to me.. which she no longer did cuz like I said before, she thought I didn't like her anymore or something.
I honestly did nothing else but followed the advice most of the guys gave in the other thread.
Why would I lie about that? And also, I'm not even blaming them, I said I take responsibility for taking the advice in the end and the point of this thread was just to tell other guys well... whatever I wrote in the OP.
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well if she liked you and you "ignored" her correctly, she might be more attracted to you now. you might be able to salvage the situation by saying you've been super stressed out lately or something, then start acting normal again, then she'll be happy to have you back to your normal self.
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I give you some advice nao!!
Not really bro. ^ Don't talk like that in front of her.
But seriously don't listen to people's advice, not even mine. You'll often hear "just be confident" and while it sounds like a cookiecutter BS trick from a recipe book, it's the way to go. Love is like Starcraft! (just had to say that). You have a personality, a style, and if you try to go outside of it, it won't be as good.
"Be yourself" is true to a certain extent, but you have to be trying.
Either way if things are messed up, just freaking let loose dude. If you feel like you've got nothing to lose, go to her and be fucking blunt about it. The thing is people think that with some "game" they can get whoever they want, but it's truly hit or miss.
PS: Some girls actually don't like being ignored!! Serious. And if you suddenly start ignoring them, THEY may think YOU don't like them. Smooth the edges.
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The graph is pretty funny, and fairly accurate. lol.
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This is a Starcraft forum. What are you honestly expecting?
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On July 03 2010 07:46 PokePill wrote: This is a Starcraft forum. What are you honestly expecting?
i dunno what this has to do with anything. unless you are trying to say that playing starcraft is an automatic deficit to your social skills, which might be true for all i know but i somehow doubt that everyone on TL is unmarried or a virgin
also, I'm gay for you baller
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On July 03 2010 07:52 anderoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 07:46 PokePill wrote: This is a Starcraft forum. What are you honestly expecting? i dunno what this has to do with anything. unless you are trying to say that playing starcraft is an automatic deficit to your social skills, which might be true for all i know but i somehow doubt that everyone on TL is unmarried or a virgin also, I'm gay for you baller There's a trend for gamers of any kind to be less experienced in terms of handling wimmens.
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Kennigit
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JUST BE YOURSELF....
all these fat losers love to give advice because they have no influence on anything
if she doesn't like you, find one of the other 4 billion women on the planet. god forbid one that you like isn't compatible...be honest and yourself
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You are jealous of XeRO. I bet your girl doesn't have 300 apm anyway.
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On July 03 2010 08:02 Boblion wrote: You are jealous of XeRO. I bet your girl doesn't have 300 apm anyway. He's got the benefit that she doesn't appear to be imaginary =P (Unless this is an even longer scheme that involves ups and downs!!)
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On July 03 2010 07:21 travis wrote: The odds of someone getting into an actual meaningful lasting relationship by being fake aren't very good. The odds of getting laid are probably much much higher.
I'm glad you got first post cuz this is real spit.
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lol, at least you gave us an aftermath. and that graph is hilarious. @BADSMCGEE speak for yourself, I know I'm in pretty good shape. good luck in future endeavors, but I think it's finally time to pull the plug on this one. as we lifeguards like to say, VSA (vital signs absent)
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On July 03 2010 07:27 CultureMisfits wrote: Just be confident and true to yourself. Don't listen to these guys who got "game". Even if they do get laid, who cares, they are heartless. This, and also, don't try to be too shy. That's about all you need. (bars/pubs have different rules, of course)
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On July 03 2010 07:55 Kennigit wrote: HAHAHAHAHA kennigit insightful and understanding per usual.
Getting advice form ppl only gets you laid at best, meaningful lasting relationships are done of your own accord. Meaning grow the balls to ask her out or stalk her for 3 years w.e you want to do and if she likes you for it well you found a person who is willing to put up with your bullshit. G/L with that.
GGPO
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I like how the blogs of jjun and dream)xero show contrasting results in the interaction with members of the opposite sex.
The OP reeks of blindly following advice without any self-thought.
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On July 03 2010 07:43 baller wrote:![[image loading]](http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6650/jjunfail.jpg) This is an amazing graph destined for the history books.
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I love how you make a blog complaining about TL's girl advice on teamliquid... ...and get a whole new round of girl advice.
Even if blaming TL for this is stupid, it's somewhat like asking the doctor who screwed up your surgery to try again, and make it right.
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On July 03 2010 07:55 Kennigit wrote: HAHAHAHAHA
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United States10774 Posts
HAHA that graph is one of the best to be posted on teamliquid forums
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Oh well at least it seems that you failed with a real girl.
Although i wonder if it is really better than scoring an imaginary girl...
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Look, there are 2 bad ends of the spectrum ok: Being too much of an ass/not caring, and then being too clingy and obsessed. You went from the later to the former. You should respond well to her, if she asks you something then be nice to her and interested, just don't try and initiate it too often yourself that's all, and if she was enjoying the playfulness then why stop? What you did wrong was your forwardness with talking to her and giving her your phone number, you said yourself that she participated in the playful acts so she obviously liked that side of you, the problem was your awkward move with the phone number. Also you got to except that just becuase you are yourself doesn't mean shes going to like you, you have to understand that its not like starcarft, where if you put the effort in you get a reward, she just might not be that into you. Just be yourself around her, try not to be awkward, be confident and if she likes you then you'll probably get some signals. She clearly didn't like you at the time of the phone number thing, otherwise she would of taken your phone number and probably acted shy, but she flat out said she wasn't which was her obviously trying to tell you she wants to be friends. It doesn't mean you have no chance, but that you should probably leave it a while at least, and don't hold a candle up for her whatever you do, this usually only leads to unhappiness.
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yeah dude. sadly, it was pretty much over when you waited TWO MONTHS to show your interest. she LJBF'd you a longggggg time ago.
any advice that might have worked would have been a miraculous bonus. don't feel too bad.
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On July 03 2010 07:43 baller wrote:![[image loading]](http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6650/jjunfail.jpg)
A graph of pure win :D
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Is is smart to ask a community of like 99.9% nerds this question? i shant say no offence to the TL community because, well, its true.
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Calgary25980 Posts
Hahahahahahahaha
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Every thread needs a graph representation, especially the novels in the SC2 forums.
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Thanks for telling me not to take advice here. I have to say, were I in a lot of people's situations I wouldn't take the people's advice. That said, you know the situation best, and should decide for yourself.
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Osaka27149 Posts
I think you need better screening skills as to whose advice to listen to. Maybe TL should implement some kind of icon system or "baller rating" for those members who have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have the skills necessary to give advice.
For example, have you seen iNcontrol's girlfriend? 10/10 right? And she posts on TL. Obviously this man knows what he is talking about.
On the other hand, SuP3rPhR3Ak2000's advice may not have that same type of rating.
I nominate Kennigit to draw up a list of worth advice givers, because I am just an ideas man. Also, I gotta go because my girl is making pancakes in the shape of dinosaurs for me. No lie.
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I really wouldn't blame anyone for giving you bad advice. Chances are you never had a chance to begin with. There is no strategy guide to get THIS particular girl to like you, there are only strategies that will get **A** girl to like you.
If you asked anyone that's into "gaming" or whatever, they would probably say what I just said. Stop getting hung up on one girl. If you messed up, you can't go back and fix it, you can only come back 1 year later when she's forgotten who you are and try again.
Every girl is different, and while there are things you can do to get girls in general, they aren't guaranteed to work on everyone.
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On July 03 2010 07:43 baller wrote:![[image loading]](http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6650/jjunfail.jpg)
wow a picture is really 1000 words.
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you had already failed once you made the blog so what are you saying? My TL advice was that you already failed.. I said that you had made the mistake and you should have made her add you.. soo there you have it.. you still don know why you failed?
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United States889 Posts
Just tell her to come make blogs on teamliquid about her boy problems. That'll fix everything. I guarantee it.
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Show her all these threads and she will either fall for you or think you are lame.
It doesn't look like you have a shot anyway so take a chance!
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Some reason for a second i thought the title was
TL.net advise girl to suck balls
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The graph might be accurate, I didn't read the previous blog. Randomly switching to "jerkass" mode though is obviously stupid. Like, the relationship has already been established in one way or another, and then you just start ignoring her and acting aloof and that's magically going to make her like you more?
No. That possibly works with randoms you just met, used to all the guys simpering over them with you being the breath of fresh air. But, if you've been "friend zoned" (lol), and then you just go all awkward and dickish on her, she thinks "what a shitty friend" and that's done. Or, if she's into you, and then you just go all awkward and dickish on her, she thinks "well boy I fucked up there" and that's done.
I'm glad you came to the right conclusion, though, about what to take from this.
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a) lol yeah I mean sure, people try to help... but not everyone is good at it  b) baller's graph delivers as always
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The advice people give is probably too general anyway.
I remember getting advice from people just recently on my own girlfriend, but I decided to consult someone closer to me with a bit more wisdom. And even in the end, I just made my own decision.
I think asking for advice is fine on TL, there shouldn't be any reason to discourage anyone from doing that. You just need to discourage people from just following the advice no questions asked. Advice I think is good for guidance and perhaps finding something you may have never thought of, but in the end, it should still be your decision. And even if what people tell you seems off, you don't go blaming people for it, just learn from the mistakes you made anyway and move on. In a strange way, bad advice could give you a good learning experience just as much as good advice.
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intrigue
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i am good at analyzing pictures of girls. please provide one, i will analyze it very hard.
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Common dude! Most of tl.net probli never even spoken to a girl.
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thedeadhaji
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if you look like a fugly midget, do something about it.
end of story.
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I'd blame the "jokinggggg" and "calm down" comments on this one, not TL.
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haha wow. this blog is highly amusing. baller's graph sums it up in the clearest way possible.
jjun212 it's a letdown you're here since 2004 and now come off like a butthurt little wimp blaming tl for his insecurity. if you don't have it in you to follow up on general advice with common sense and a feeling for specific situations don't do it and stop making yourself look like an idiot.
jokinggggggg
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hahaha I completely agree that most of the advice on TL.net about romance is terrible. Actually the advice here on just about any subject other than brood war strategy is iffy at best.
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"This statement is false."
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Lol at the graph, it's awesome!
But seriously, why would you, or anyone for that matter, seek girl advice on an Internet forum and follow it blindly? Even if the people here are the ballingest pimps, they lack information to give proper responses. Even if you think you've included all important pieces of information your help post, there bound to be things that are neglected, and they change everything.
Oi.
On July 04 2010 22:57 Luddite wrote: hahaha I completely agree that most of the advice on TL.net about romance is terrible. Actually the advice here on just about any subject other than brood war strategy is iffy at best.
Aw c'mon, that's harsh
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Using "techniques" without knowing the principles behind them is good for the short term, but won't give you any lasting success.
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DAMMIT baller I love you so much.
jjun are you like 14? cuz you're going through the same realization about women that I went thru when I was a fish in high school
yes games suck yes women suck don't be yourself until at least the 3rd date suck it up move on
if you think ur gonna avoid the games just by saying it then you are in for some lols HAha I WISH
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You see what you did? You followed advice instead of trusting yourself and failing, and then asked for more advice. You're never going to learn like that. Try your best and fail without advice and then you get a feel for it.
If you put your blame on shit like TL you're never going to be able to pin point the real problems in your approach to da females.
-make ur own mistakes and face ur own mistakes. advice is something u keep in mind and follow it when u feel it is applicable.
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wait wait wait
let me get this straight
you're saying things like this are HEAVILY situationally and person dependent? You mean even if someone gives you solid advice it might not work because of one minor personality difference between this girl and the girl they've tried it with?
No way! Of course you have to be able to adapt to the situation and use what is best for that situation, if you can't figure that out then you need to evolve for the next time.
Adapt or die in the field of women
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It's a forum for Starcraft Obsessives. You shoulda' known walking in that you were asking the wrong people.
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Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is:
- Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts.
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On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. Tssss tell me i won't repeat.
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On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts.
I might have a good idea...
Is he between 5000 and 10,000 posts?
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On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. Is it SuperiorWolf?!!!!
Wait don't say anything, I want to live in a world where I just assume it is.
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lol don´t listen to the be cocky or whatever stuff they come up with this is all information from pickup artist and stuff people have read you only need to get to know the person just don´t be too desperate I guess
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On July 05 2010 22:20 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. Is it SuperiorWolf?!!!! Wait don't say anything, I want to live in a world where I just assume it is.
Hahaha, poor SuperiorWolf. Is there no place where his reputation can escape the criticism of Chill?
On July 05 2010 22:20 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. I might have a good idea... Is he between 5000 and 10,000 posts?
Nope, he is in 4,000's.
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On July 03 2010 09:13 Manifesto7 wrote: For example, have you seen iNcontrol's girlfriend? 10/10 right? LOL, maybe for you.
and edit, LOL @ the baller graph. true story.
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On July 05 2010 22:44 e.soul[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2010 09:13 Manifesto7 wrote: For example, have you seen iNcontrol's girlfriend? 10/10 right? LOL, maybe for you. I don't know how you could say this. Maybe she's not your style but she's obviously really pretty. To take this tone is ridiculous.
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On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. Even though it's not him, can I just pretend and call him Atrioc? 
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On July 05 2010 01:41 Divinek wrote: die in the field of women
I wouldn't mind this. yumyum
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On July 03 2010 07:43 baller wrote:![[image loading]](http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6650/jjunfail.jpg) Okay this needs to be framed somewhere on the site, living up to the name bro.  I don't really know what else to say, but this graph pretty much sums it up. (It is the internets after all, cave-loads of salt is required when you wander around these parts)
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there should be a requirement to post your picture first to see just how attractive(read, unattractive) you are before we start giving advice
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On July 06 2010 01:26 a176 wrote: there should be a requirement to post your picture first to see just how attractive(read, unattractive) you are before we start giving advice
jjun212's picture:
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hahahahahahaha
this is a great thread
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Honestly the only person I'd listen to for girl advice would be Kennigit .
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On July 05 2010 22:20 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. Is it SuperiorWolf?!!!! Wait don't say anything, I want to live in a world where I just assume it is. ... When have I ever posted in a girl advice thread? :/
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On July 06 2010 00:00 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. Even though it's not him, can I just pretend and call him Atrioc? 
Notice I said, 'An online friend of mine..' and not, 'A irritating and inexcusable human being..'
Atrioc is what is wrong with the world today, nothing else is to be blame.
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On July 06 2010 05:25 Superiorwolf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2010 22:08 Pandain wrote:Hey, are you sure that this pic will make all the ladies like me?. ![[image loading]](http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs263.ash1/19052_245408940971_612180971_4201233_7218707_n.jpg) Definitely sure Pandain.
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lol this blog and the responses are amazing
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On July 03 2010 07:43 baller wrote:![[image loading]](http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6650/jjunfail.jpg)
QFT!
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Well, a lot of us are dilettantes when it comes to girls.
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On July 05 2010 22:20 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. Is it SuperiorWolf?!!!! Wait don't say anything, I want to live in a world where I just assume it is. haters gotta hate
<3 suppy
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On July 06 2010 09:55 duckett wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2010 22:20 Chill wrote:On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. Is it SuperiorWolf?!!!! Wait don't say anything, I want to live in a world where I just assume it is. haters gotta hate <3 suppy
Hey, how's your girl?
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On July 06 2010 09:58 DarthThienAn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2010 09:55 duckett wrote:On July 05 2010 22:20 Chill wrote:On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. Is it SuperiorWolf?!!!! Wait don't say anything, I want to live in a world where I just assume it is. haters gotta hate <3 suppy Hey, how's your girl? yoyo hows ur cat? wat did u have for breakfast? was there traffic on the BQE this morning?
does this forum look like an MSN window
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On July 06 2010 10:07 baller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2010 09:58 DarthThienAn wrote:On July 06 2010 09:55 duckett wrote:On July 05 2010 22:20 Chill wrote:On July 05 2010 22:08 Salv wrote:Haha indeed it does. An online friend of mine is one of the biggest contributors to TL girl threads, and I know for a fact that he is: - Never been on a date.
- Socially awkward as it is.
I won't name names because I receive tremendous pleasure every time I read one of his 'insightful' posts. Is it SuperiorWolf?!!!! Wait don't say anything, I want to live in a world where I just assume it is. haters gotta hate <3 suppy Hey, how's your girl? yoyo hows ur cat? wat did u have for breakfast? was there traffic on the BQE this morning? does this forum look like an MSN window
My cat's dead =[. I didn't have breakfast, but I woke up for dinner ^_^. BQE? I don't live in NY sry.
And sometimes, yea, it does :D.
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Wish I would have read this, my advice is don't go out with women at work. You can never ever say anything about you two or make it obvious that you work together, since she will start to regret or hate you for it, the odds are at least.
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So you want her back...? + Show Spoiler +Don't get an Orangutan and name him Clyde. Memes are memes for a reason (the biological variety, at least). The idea that we, who have never met either you or her, can offer you advice seems strange.
Although in essence, don't try so hard: “We are all a little weird and life's a little weird, and when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.”
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