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im sure most of you have heard of nostradamus. so there's another prophet or clairvoyant by the of Vanga Baba . she's not as famous as nostradamus though some of her predictions are quite accurate. when i saw the news about the korean ship sinking crisis i decided to share this with you all.
her previous predictions:
September 11
In 1989 she predicted the World Trade Center disaster in the following statement:
"Horror, horror! The American brethren will fall after being attacked by the steel birds. The wolves will be howling in a bush, and innocent blood will be gushing."
"Brethren" is believed to refer to the "Twin" Towers or the "Brothers". "Steel Birds" are obviously the jets. The part about the bush is believed to refer to President Bush.
Russian Disaster
In 1980, she even predicted:
"At the turn of the century, in August of 1999 or 2000, Kursk will be covered with water, and the whole world will be weeping over it."
Kursk was the name of a large city in Russia, also the site of the largest tank battle of WWII. Nobody could understand how the city would be covered by water but the meaning was clear on August 12, 2000, when the Russian submarine, Kursk, named after the city, suffered an explosion and left the survivors for dead at the bottom of the ocean. I remember this news story well. The Russian government did nothing to try and rescue the survivors while the British and Norwegian rescue attempts failed. Baba Vanga was even able to predict the month and a 50% chance of the year this would happen.
Her future predictions:
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2010 – World War III. War will begin in November 2010 and end in October 2014. Will begin as usual, then nuclear will be used initially, and then chemical weapons.
2011 – As a result of the fallout of nuclear fallout in the northern hemisphere will not be any animals or vegetation. Then Muslims will wage war against chemical surviving Europeans.
2014 – Most people will suffer skin cancer and other skin diseases (a consequence of chemical warfare).
2016 – Europe almost lonely (empty).
2018 – New China becomes a world power. Developing countries in turn operated from exploiters.
2023 – A little bit of change in the Earth’s orbit.
2025 – Europe still little settled.
2028 – Creating a new energy source (probably a controlled thermonuclear reaction). Hunger is gradually being overcome. Launched a manned spacecraft to Venus.
2033 – The polar ice are melting. Greater levels of the oceans.
2043 – The world economy is thriving. In Europe, Muslims rule.
2046 – any bodies (organs) can be manufactured (cloning?). Replacing the bodies is becoming one of the best methods of treatment.
2066 – During the attack on the Muslim Rome, the United States used a new kind of weapon – the climate. The sharp cooling (instant freezing).
2076 – Classless Society (communism).
2084 – The restoration of nature.
2088 – A new disease – aging for a few seconds!
2097 – The rapid aging defeated.
2100 – Artificial sun illuminates the dark side of the Earth.
2111 – People become living robots.
2123 – The war between small nations. Big nations do not intervene.
2125 – Hungary will receive signals from space.
2130 – Colony under water (with the help of sympathetic councils).
2164 – Animals turn half-human.
2167 – A new religion.
2170 – Major drought.
2183 – A colony on Mars becomes a nuclear power, and demands independence from the Earth (like when – the United States from England).
2187 – Will stop 2 large eruption of volcanoes.
2195 – Sea Colony fully developed, abundant energy and food.
2196 – Complete mixing of Asians and Europeans.
2201 – At the Sun slowing thermonuclear processes. Temperature drops.
2221 – In the search for extraterrestrial life, humanity comes into contact with what – something terrible.
2256 – Spacecraft forgotten to Earth terrible new disease.
2262 – Planets gradually changing planetary orbit. Mars is threatened by comets.
2271 – Restart physical constants are changed. (Laws of physics changed?)
2273 – Mixing yellow, white and black races. New race.
2279 – Power from nothing (probably from a vacuum or a black hole).
2288 – Travel back in time (Time Travel invented?). New contacts with aliens.
2291 – The sun cools. Attempts were being made to light it again.
2296 – Powerful eruption on the Sun. Changing the force of gravity. Beginning to fall old space stations and satellites.
2299 – In France, guerrilla movement against Islam.
2302 – New important laws and secrets of the universe revealed.
2304 – Secrets of the Moon revealed.
2341 – Something terrible is approaching Earth from space.
2354 – An accident in one of the artificial Sun leads to drought.
2371 – The great famine.
2378 – A new fast-growing race.
2480 – 2 artificial Suns collide. Land in the twilight.
3005 -The war on Mars. Violated the trajectory of the planet.
3010 – Comet hits Moon. Around the Earth – ring/zone of the stones and dust.
3797 – By this time on Earth killed all life, but mankind will be able to lay the foundations for a new life in another stellar system.
3803 – A new planet is populated by little. Fewer contacts between people. Climate new planet affects the organisms of people – they mutate.
3805 – The war between humans for resources. More than half of people dying out.
3815 – The war is over.
3854 – The development of civilization virtually stops. People live flocks as beasts.
3871 – New prophet tells people about moral values, religion.
3874 – New prophet receives support from all segments of the population. Organized a new church.
3878 – along with the Church to re-train new people forgotten sciences.
4302 – New cities are growing in the world. New Church encourages the development of new technology and science.
4302 – The development of science. Scientists discovered in the overall impact of all diseases in organism behavior.
4304 – Found a way to win any disease.
4308 – Due to mutation people at last beginning to use their brains more than 34%. Completely lost the notion of evil and hatred.
4509 – Getting to Know God. The man has finally been reached such a level of development that can communicate with God.
4599 – People achieve immortality.
4674 – The development of civilization has reached its peak. The number of people living on different planets is about 340 billion. Assimilation begins with aliens.
5076 – A boundary universe. With it, no one knows.
5078 – The decision to leave the boundaries of the universe. While about 40 percent of the population is against it.
5079 – End of the World.
more info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Vanga
 
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White people will finally become the minority and have no power?! WTF? Muslims and Chinese take over the world?!
Pretty cool immo
jkz
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I'd love to see all her prophecies that didn't come true. If she made more that came true than didn't, I'd be convinced she had some kind of power.
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She, and many others, just makes a million generic and cryptic guesses and when one finally turns out to be slightly relevant people who don't think about it label them a visionary. Same story different name.
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she was born in the 31 January 1911 and died in 11 August 1996. so her predictions are quite new compare to nostradamus. nostradamus was 14 December or 21 December 1503[1] – 2 July 1566
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She should have just written an epic sci fi novel. The future predictions are pretty awesome.
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well she predicted her death day :S
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Baba Vanga ("baba" means grandmother and Vanga is her first name) was a blind old woman that lived alone in a distant rural place in Bulgaria. I do not know if she made any "prophecies" but while she was alive there was a long queue (hundreds of people) each day in front of her door with all kinds of people - rich and poor, old and young, men and women - that wanted to meet her and talk to her. They all sought some kind of advice/help from her - with ill relatives, missing persons, personal tragedies. She tried to talk to every single one and often stayed up late into the night to meet the last person in the queue. It is widely believed amongst Bulgarian that she did possess a special power, mainly because, literary everyone in our small country personally knows someone she helped (there were, of course, people she could not help and she was quite frank about that as well). She was a special woman indeed and I respect her very much as I have been touched by her powers as well but I would be reluctant to say that she made any "prophecies" as Nostradamus did for the future of the World.
In conclusion I would like to say that whatever you might call her - a prophet, a clairvoyant, a shaman, a fake even - she was a real person like many of us and she had a lot of goodness in her heart and she shared that goodness with quite the number of people without even leaving her little old room.
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Yea ive heard of her . Only thing i know that she was born in my country ( at that time that part belonged to Bulgaria )
Well we have few more months till November lets see if its true or just a bunch of bullshit
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WW3 is possible. North-South Korea, Thailand, China, Iran, The Middle East. I don't know about the rest of the world but Asia is quite chaotic nowadays.
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I hope no one actually believes this nonsense.
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On May 29 2010 02:12 J1.au wrote:
I hope no one actually believes this nonsense.
i hope nobody believes YOUR nonsense.
seriously, everyone subject to their own beliefs and understanding.
if someone wants to believe these types of prophecies, so be it. no reason to insult those who do.
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Creepy indeed, the guesses gives you hopes but the whole muslims in europe thingy is just.....
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2125 – Hungary will receive signals from space.
Whoa! :D
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Here's my take on it:
If someone wasn't just making cryptic guesses in an attempt to coincidentally get one right, what's the point in saying it in such a cryptic way? If you could really predict the future, it seems like it would make a lot more sense to not obfuscate it with more symbolism than a bad victorian-era novel, and just say what you mean.
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On May 29 2010 02:16 CKSide wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2010 02:12 J1.au wrote:
I hope no one actually believes this nonsense. i hope nobody believes YOUR nonsense. seriously, everyone subject to their own beliefs and understanding. if someone wants to believe these types of prophecies, so be it. no reason to insult those who do.
And he is entitled to his own opinion, that this is rubbish. Should he not be allowed to express that belief?
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How many predictions have gone wrong to date?
On May 29 2010 02:16 CKSide wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2010 02:12 J1.au wrote:
I hope no one actually believes this nonsense. i hope nobody believes YOUR nonsense. seriously, everyone subject to their own beliefs and understanding. if someone wants to believe these types of prophecies, so be it. no reason to insult those who do.
I believe your opinion is absolutely valid!
I get so mad when people insult my beliefs of the water breathing broccoli men living in the sun who have absolute control of mankind and the whole universe. How is that any worse than believing in a guy who makes water in to wine? A scamming drunkard I say!
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Prophets are mysterious, but I mean if I made 1000's of predictions and 1 or 2 were true I would be a prophet.
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On May 29 2010 02:27 valaki wrote:
2125 – Hungary will receive signals from space.
Whoa! :D
I bet you can't wait!
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I seriously don't wish for WWIII
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How come there seems to be future predictions every few years but we only have 2 previous examples?
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On May 29 2010 02:37 Nytefish wrote:
How come there seems to be future predictions every few years but we only have 2 previous examples?
Oh, she's new. She recently graduated from university of predictions
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On May 29 2010 02:12 J1.au wrote:
I hope no one actually believes this nonsense.
I don't know why you say that when you know tons of people do, they just want things like this to be true so they don't think logically to ruin their fantasy world.
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On May 29 2010 02:30 Puosu wrote:
How many predictions have gone wrong to date?
none. she predicted her death date, world trade center atack, russian disaster.
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On May 29 2010 02:16 CKSide wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2010 02:12 J1.au wrote:
I hope no one actually believes this nonsense. i hope nobody believes YOUR nonsense. seriously, everyone subject to their own beliefs and understanding. if someone wants to believe these types of prophecies, so be it. no reason to insult those who do.
Haha, oh wow.
I don't recall insulting anyone. I merely described the prophecies accurately and stated my hope that people didn't believe it.
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She did not predict 9/11. She made a random statement that you retrofit to match 9/11. There is no way in hell anyone would be able to predict 9/11 based on that random combination of letters. Why didnt she do anything about it? This is pretty much the same as what happens when you hear a sound that is just garbage, then someone says "Sounds like someone saying "I`m retarded"" Then suddenly you hear it too. Humans want to see connections, even when there are one.
Here`s a link for people believing in doomsday prophecies:
http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm
Turns out there has been a "few" predictions concerning this.
"Russian disaster"? Come on! Be at least slightly precise, or give some kind of empirical evidence of any sort to back up your inane claims.
Predicting your own death is easy.
1) Either say it over and over again, your followers will only remember the one where you were right anyway.
2) Kill yourself.
This type of nonsense pisses me off.
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If any one here has watched Richard Dawkins videos about delusions or whatever, you'd know that these types of predictions are just pure b.s
They say it and we somehow take it... flip it around a bit and say OMG, its true.
It's not true. YOU made it true.
It's the same concept with those guys who make contact with the dead and say.. "Does anyone know a John...?" lol
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On May 29 2010 02:38 apm66 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2010 02:37 Nytefish wrote:
How come there seems to be future predictions every few years but we only have 2 previous examples? Oh, she's new. She recently graduated from university of psychohistory
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lol this is interesting to read, and some of it (especially the part about Europes economy and muslims thriving) looks plausible.
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On May 29 2010 01:28 KingofHearts wrote:Her future predictions: + Show Spoiler +2010 – World War III. War will begin in November 2010 and end in October 2014. Will begin as usual, then nuclear will be used initially, and then chemical weapons.
2010 - The Savior returns to destroy everyone, for the last time. The Ultimate Weapon falls into the hands of a ruthless Tyrant.
2011 – As a result of the fallout of nuclear fallout in the northern hemisphere will not be any animals or vegetation. Then Muslims will wage war against chemical surviving Europeans.
2014 – Most people will suffer skin cancer and other skin diseases (a consequence of chemical warfare).
2016 – Europe almost lonely (empty).
2018 – New China becomes a world power. Developing countries in turn operated from exploiters.
It's scary how close most of these predictions are. 
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this one:
2028 – Creating a new energy source (probably a controlled thermonuclear reaction). Hunger is gradually being overcome. Launched a manned spacecraft to Venus.
made me lol
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On May 29 2010 03:22 Mindcrime wrote:this one: Show nested quote +2028 – Creating a new energy source (probably a controlled thermonuclear reaction). Hunger is gradually being overcome. Launched a manned spacecraft to Venus. made me lol
Yea I cracked with that one too :D No point in sending people to the Moon / Mars why would we want people to VENUS LAWL.
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On May 29 2010 03:41 WeSt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2010 03:22 Mindcrime wrote:this one: 2028 – Creating a new energy source (probably a controlled thermonuclear reaction). Hunger is gradually being overcome. Launched a manned spacecraft to Venus. made me lol Yea I cracked with that one too :D No point in sending people to the Moon / Mars why would we want people to VENUS LAWL.
Because of course she probably predicted that humanity would "suddenly" loose all knowledge of how to make H2SO4 (sulphuric acid) and would need to harvest it from Venus' atmosphere ^^ Its obvious, why don't you believe... you bad person.
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Seriously, they're only 15 world-changing prophesies for my lifetime, I'm not too sacred (or convinced).
If you want a real prophet go to Isaiah or King David
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immortality discovered...then worlds ends 400yrs from then...
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Probably not true at all but if you imagine it to be true while you read it it is pretty epic.
Though the end of the world (shouldn't it be end of the universe or end of life?) part gets kind of confusing. I guess she is suggesting 60% of the population leaves the universe and the other 40% of humanity cannot survive by itself for whatever reason. Or maybe "God" just destroys the universe... dunno.
Nice read nonetheless.
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She was known for telling very cryptive responses, so all these clear statements in the opening are not hers for sure. So at the very best those things are someone's interpretations of things she might have or might have not said. Also I didn't know that she made any future profecies, actually people say that she disliked to talk about the future.
People used to go to her to ask for advice, for a lead to missing people, animals or objects, for possibilities to heal illnesses. There really were hundreds of people waiting to see her every day for the last decades of her life. The vast majority of people who met her reported that she indeed was able to help them.
You should consider that Vanga was a very uneducated person and was also illiterate. She also became blind when she was 16. Her knowledge about the world (politics, events, news) was very limited and is highly unlikely that she would come up with good fictional stories or that she could think of logical but empty response that many so-called prophets use.
Consider also that there was a line of hundreds of people in front of her house waiting to ask her about their problems for several decades. If she really gave only bullshit and/or wrong responses probably people would have stopped going to her at some point.
If you are interested here are a few anecdotes:
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1. My uncle was an alcoholic and beat his wife. So my mother went to see Vanga. She believed that my uncle was sick and needed treatment so she wanted to ask Vanga what they could do to change my uncle. There were so many people waiting for Vanga that my mother waited for over 20 hours until it was her turn to go and see the old woman (my mother actually slept for one night in front of the house). Upon entering the room with Vanga, my mother explained the situation briefly and asked what she could do for my uncle. Vanga's response was just a short: "What you want to do with him. He is just like that. He doesn't like any of you."
Naturally, my mother was pissed about the response. She thought that Vanga was a charlatan. Now about twenty years later, my mother believes that Vanga's words very completely correct. My uncle never gave up the alcohol, despite having severe liver and kidney problems. He continously used to beat my aunt until she finally divorced him and moved away. Then he continued with beating my grandmother. My grandmother was very supportive and always believed that he was just sick and could be healed. She tried to approach him and gave him money even though he used to beat her. He was in the psychiatry several times, but never changed. He has often been involved in fights throughout his whole life and has always been a complete asshole. And all of this despite that he actually had everything - he was a doctor, had a wife and a child, had a good income and good savings - but eventually lost everything. Just like Vanga said - he is just evil.
2. A teacher of my mother used to live in the same town as Vanga when she was young. The students weren't very keen on studying so they tried to distract the lessons by asking the teacher about Vanga who gladly told them stories about her. She said that before Vanga was famous in the whole country, she was locally known for her ability to help people. People would often go to Vanga to ask her about animals that have ran away and she could nearly always tell them where to find the missing animals. Also the teacher's mother had lost a ring and Vanga told her to look for it in a certain place in her garden where she was able to find it.
3. A friend of my mother went with her family to see Vanga in order to ask about her brother who has gone missing while on duty. Vanga's response was something along the line: "Ohh, I see very bad things. Go away! Don't ask about him again!"
I personally tend not to believe any supernatural events/people/explanations since I am inclined to approach everything in a rational manner. It still makes me think that there might be some merit to all the stories that surround Vanga, since people seeked her advice for several decades. She was also tested by scientists in Russia and Japan who tried to explain why Vanga could tell the things she did (not if but why!).
However, I never heard that she actually made any prophecies about the future. So I do not believe that the stuff in the OP is from her.
But if this stuff is indeed said by Vanga I might consider dropping of from college till the end of the year and live my life to the fullest just in case...
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In the year of the red coyote, the large man will unite the three kingdoms of stickiness, and much fun will be had.
Look, I'm a prophet.
Edit: Also, she says nothing about how the world is going to end in 2012, so she is obviously a hack.
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According to the wiki article on her she predicted these events:
"She is said to have foretold the break-up of the Soviet Union, the Chernobyl disaster, Boris Yeltsin's electoral victory, the date of Stalin's death, the sinking of the Russian submarine Kursk, the September 11 attacks and Topalov's victory in the world chess tournament"
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Another thing, from looking at internet posts about her, it seems that she predicted 4 assassination attempts in 2008, and when that didn't happen everyone changed her predictions to 2009, and when that didn't happen changed it to 2010, and now they seem to have swept them under the rug entirely and are just focusing on the rest of her predictions. So, uh, yeah, what's up with that?
2008 - Assassination attempts on four heads of states. Conflict in Indonesia. That becomes one of the causes for the start of WWIII.
from a post in 2008. Odd how the op left this prediction out.
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I think at some point she predicted that a lot gold was going to be found on the territory of Bulgaria. Now, as a bulgarian I'm considering myself a supporter of her doing but stilll...
I must say, I do believe in supernatural stuff, cause when I was 10 or so, I've met another famous nanny prophet. She told me I was going to get really sick... and about 4 months after that I got indeed sick, I couldnt go to school for 5 months, it was really serious but eventually I got over it.
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Faildictions, misinterpretations and mistranslations (often deliberate).
Yawn.
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On May 29 2010 11:07 Lemonwalrus wrote:Another thing, from looking at internet posts about her, it seems that she predicted 4 assassination attempts in 2008, and when that didn't happen everyone changed her predictions to 2009, and when that didn't happen changed it to 2010, and now they seem to have swept them under the rug entirely and are just focusing on the rest of her predictions. So, uh, yeah, what's up with that? Show nested quote +2008 - Assassination attempts on four heads of states. Conflict in Indonesia. That becomes one of the causes for the start of WWIII. from a post in 2008. Odd how the op left this prediction out.
she said head of state,never sais former or present.
1st one is conflict in indonesia because of this the death of Suharto, former Indonesian president in 2008
2nd Ivo Pukanić, 47, Croatian newspaper editor and politician, assassination by car bomb in 2008
3rd T. Maheswaran, 47, Sri Lankan politician, Cabinet Minister, assassination by gunshot in 2008
4th http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_East_Timorese_assassination_attempts
extras:
5th http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/brave-ramos-horta-ignored-warnings-about-assassination-attempt/2008/02/12/1202760299918.html
6th http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1027081obama1.html (not successful of coz)
7th http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/28/afghanistan
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On May 29 2010 17:03 KingofHearts wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2010 11:07 Lemonwalrus wrote:Another thing, from looking at internet posts about her, it seems that she predicted 4 assassination attempts in 2008, and when that didn't happen everyone changed her predictions to 2009, and when that didn't happen changed it to 2010, and now they seem to have swept them under the rug entirely and are just focusing on the rest of her predictions. So, uh, yeah, what's up with that? 2008 - Assassination attempts on four heads of states. Conflict in Indonesia. That becomes one of the causes for the start of WWIII. from a post in 2008. Odd how the op left this prediction out. she said head of state,never sais former or present. 1st one is conflict in indonesia because of this the death of Suharto, former Indonesian president in 2008 2nd Ivo Pukanić, 47, Croatian newspaper editor and politician, assassination by car bomb in 2008 3rd T. Maheswaran, 47, Sri Lankan politician, Cabinet Minister, assassination by gunshot in 2008 4th http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_East_Timorese_assassination_attempts extras: 5th http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/brave-ramos-horta-ignored-warnings-about-assassination-attempt/2008/02/12/1202760299918.html6th http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/1027081obama1.html (not successful of coz) 7th http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/28/afghanistan
I'm almost willing to bet money that there have been four such assassination attempts every year.
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ya and im almost willing to bet that Kursk is always underwater everyyear. or the 911 happens every year. /sarcasm
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And how exactly has the indonesian FORMER president's assassination caused ww3?
Also, I would hardly call most of them heads of state.
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I feel the need to bump to thread because of this prediction:
2010 – World War III. War will begin in November 2010 and end in October 2014. Will begin as usual, then nuclear will be used initially, and then chemical weapons.
I am not saying that I believe the conflict between North and South Korea will cause WW3, but it is interesting how crazy the timing is.
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Every time one of her predictions passes without happening, her followers either bury it or push it back. I wouldn't be surprised if this ww3 prediction was (like her head of state assasination thing i mentioned above) proved wrong and pushed back several times before.
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2010 - The Savior returns to destroy everyone, for the last time. The Ultimate Weapon falls into the hands of a ruthless Tyrant.
Savior returned to destroy every fanboy's dreams.
Flash lost to Jaedong but then he raped Jaedong twice in a row after that so I dunnos. Maybe it means Jaedong will replace Lomo with Flash as his intimate manfriend.
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Cool ww3 we got here, huh? Oh wait...
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On November 27 2010 18:47 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Cool ww3 we got here, huh? Oh wait...
We've still got a few days. Hubris leads to a fall!
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On November 27 2010 18:54 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2010 18:47 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Cool ww3 we got here, huh? Oh wait... We've still got a few days. Hubris leads to a fall!
2010 – World War III. War will begin in November 2010 and end in October 2014. Will begin as usual, then nuclear will be used initially, and then chemical weapons.
Time is running out! Glad we get to end things on a high-note, with Day9 and DH! :>
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Not to say that I really believe in the predictions or in an upcoming world war, but a large-scale war may be attributed by future historians to this specific event in the Korean conflict.
I don't really see why the possibility of being psychic is so unbelievable either. A thousand years ago people would probably think you were an idiot if you explained how a radio works to them. But I also think that if you're psychic, you can take scientific tests and prove you are, or else it's bullshit.
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On November 27 2010 21:11 Ghin wrote:
Not to say that I really believe in the predictions or in an upcoming world war, but a large-scale war may be attributed by future historians to this specific event in the Korean conflict.
I don't really see why the possibility of being psychic is so unbelievable either. A thousand years ago people would probably think you were an idiot if you explained how a radio works to them. But I also think that if you're psychic, you can take scientific tests and prove you are, or else it's bullshit.
Your comparision of a radio a thousand years ago is equivalent to a psychic who can actually demonstrate their claimed ability (and that we cannot explain the ability). But there has never been such a case. Not a single psychic has been able to take scientific test and pass. This is why we do not believe in psychics, because experience tells us that they do not exist.
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