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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5913 Posts
April 11 2010 12:06 GMT
#61
Meh, Upmagic just seems to go idiot mode after his crazy strategy works by going all in and not looking after his econ when he doesn't need too often like vs Lux on Outsider. Its like he doesn't have the lategame decision making to actually finish the game... I dunno, he's just disappointing and should win a lot of games he loses which seems to be the reason why that person accuses him.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
April 11 2010 17:51 GMT
#62
On April 11 2010 21:06 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Meh, Upmagic just seems to go idiot mode after his crazy strategy works by going all in and not looking after his econ when he doesn't need too often like vs Lux on Outsider. Its like he doesn't have the lategame decision making to actually finish the game... I dunno, he's just disappointing and should win a lot of games he loses which seems to be the reason why that person accuses him.

No, he's being accused because he is obviously one of the top players IN eSTRO, and he was randomly kicked from the A team.
HitEmUp
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 12 2010 08:04 GMT
#63
On April 10 2010 16:32 motbob wrote:
This post in the Rekrul thread is pretty relevant:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 16:10 Milkis wrote:


Will translate important bits in a second. They're nowhere near official, other than the first one, since they're all seem to be a cafe blog post from a betting community.

First Image:

Sounds like an official that is posting about the Bogus - Savior match, which they seem to be very very certain that it was rigged.

The last underlined bit talks about Bisu in that they think Bisu's matches that day also seemed a bit more rigged, but The Bogus - Savior game was something they actually got a report on.

Second Image:

Someone just talking about the logistics of it.

Third Image:

Someone posting that "Police are finally taking action" against Starcraft Betting

Fourth Image:

The Cafe Staff warning about Betting in games by UpMaGic, YellOw[ArnC], Luxury, because "everyone knows" there are forces behind planning their games.


haha there are no vods from that Bogus / Savior game, but the live report is pretty interesting in retrospect. I guess he might have thrown it by "forgetting" to research consume. Here are some choice quotes:

On December 03 2009 20:20 meegrean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 20:19 HopLight wrote:
On December 03 2009 20:19 konadora wrote:
sAviOr just lost to face Bisu in loser's match

IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN


Thats why he's crying?

He's acting. He will crush Bisu and then move on to crush the loser of the Winner's Match.

On December 03 2009 20:21 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2009 20:19 HopLight wrote:
On December 03 2009 20:19 konadora wrote:
sAviOr just lost to face Bisu in loser's match

IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN


Thats why he's crying?

"My plan.. it's too beautiful"


On December 03 2009 20:18 Mystlord wrote:
Saviorrrr so gooood.

WTF BUT NOW SO BAD???? BOGUS PUSHING INTO SAVIOR'S NATURAL

Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 12 2010 08:06 GMT
#64
On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious.

Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008).

Are you talking about Stork vs. ForGG where Stork wins by proxying carriers two feet from ForGG's main?
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 13 2010 03:46 GMT
#65
Looks like "Luxury Chaos Theory" has been solved
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-13 03:53:21
April 13 2010 03:52 GMT
#66
On April 11 2010 15:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 14:36 Crimson wrote:
On the lux vs hwasin game posted in the op...

watch from about 4:05 on until lux engages the marines with his drones. they just stand there and do not attack for most of the time. he gets his drones up by the marines. but they don't do anything.

No. They killed 2 or 3 rines, but Hwasin had a nice spread of remaining rines and thus repelled the remaining drones. Granted, it wasn't wonderful control, but he was fucked at that point regardless.


He pulled all of his drones out of his main wayyyy too early, and he could have also been mining at the natural when it finished and pulled drones off when needed, especially since lings were on the way. It looks like pretty awful decision making.

edit: Sorry didn't mean to doublepost, thought i was in a different thread! T_T
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
April 13 2010 12:06 GMT
#67
lol wtf Upmagic was one of my favorite mech players. He played mech TvZ sooooo much.

Ggaemo vs Upmagic on Heartbreak ridge was a classic.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 14 2010 00:21 GMT
#68
On April 11 2010 02:58 Emon_ wrote:
Stork vs. Lx, WCG 2008
http://video.pomoho.com/ent/2165099

Theres a battle where Storks puts 9 zealots on hold so that Lx's 5 dragoons can kill his 4 dragoons.

Lol that game was rather funny.

1) My dragoon micro is too good, I need to "accidentally" shoot my nexus and mismicro a bit.

2) Hmmm, my zealots have almost killed his dragoons... I can't do that, I'll just move my zealots up to make it look like they're trying to kill probes...

3) Hmm... there's a pylon here, that probably means that there's no expansion further down... I'll just kill the pylon.

4) That pylon going down would devestate my opponent!, he wouldn't be able to build anything and my reinforcements would kill him. I'll just leave it with 50 life...

5) He's attacking my expansion.... should I try to sneak drones out or try to save it? Maybe neither?

I could throw a game better than that!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-14 04:07:21
April 14 2010 04:07 GMT
#69
If this is true then this is really fucking sad .. =/

[e] And tbh, it seems like the evidence is mounting and this does seem to be true. Breaks my heart
^-^
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
April 14 2010 05:13 GMT
#70
Look at the bright side: during this investigation, you are almost guaranteed that no player is throwing matches.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
April 14 2010 05:20 GMT
#71
On April 12 2010 17:06 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:
On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious.

Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008).

Are you talking about Stork vs. ForGG where Stork wins by proxying carriers two feet from ForGG's main?

No, it was Stork vs some foreigner. Stork had to lose in order to not face a Korean in the next round.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
April 14 2010 14:05 GMT
#72
On April 14 2010 14:13 fight_or_flight wrote:
Look at the bright side: during this investigation, you are almost guaranteed that no player is throwing matches.


That's actually an interesting comment ... and seems to make sense.
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
April 14 2010 17:40 GMT
#73
On April 14 2010 14:13 fight_or_flight wrote:
Look at the bright side: during this investigation, you are almost guaranteed that no player is throwing matches.


Yeah Effort decided to stop throwing ZvTs lol.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
April 14 2010 19:39 GMT
#74
On April 14 2010 09:21 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2010 02:58 Emon_ wrote:
Stork vs. Lx, WCG 2008
http://video.pomoho.com/ent/2165099

Theres a battle where Storks puts 9 zealots on hold so that Lx's 5 dragoons can kill his 4 dragoons.

Lol that game was rather funny.

1) My dragoon micro is too good, I need to "accidentally" shoot my nexus and mismicro a bit.

2) Hmmm, my zealots have almost killed his dragoons... I can't do that, I'll just move my zealots up to make it look like they're trying to kill probes...

3) Hmm... there's a pylon here, that probably means that there's no expansion further down... I'll just kill the pylon.

4) That pylon going down would devestate my opponent!, he wouldn't be able to build anything and my reinforcements would kill him. I'll just leave it with 50 life...

5) He's attacking my expansion.... should I try to sneak drones out or try to save it? Maybe neither?

I could throw a game better than that!


Ok, that game was thrown not because of betting, but it was because the winner had to go face a top korean next round in elimenation.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
josemb40
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Peru611 Posts
April 14 2010 19:49 GMT
#75
this just sucks
wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 17 2010 21:36 GMT
#76
On April 15 2010 04:39 lone_hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2010 09:21 obesechicken13 wrote:
On April 11 2010 02:58 Emon_ wrote:
Stork vs. Lx, WCG 2008
http://video.pomoho.com/ent/2165099

Theres a battle where Storks puts 9 zealots on hold so that Lx's 5 dragoons can kill his 4 dragoons.

Lol that game was rather funny.

1) My dragoon micro is too good, I need to "accidentally" shoot my nexus and mismicro a bit.

2) Hmmm, my zealots have almost killed his dragoons... I can't do that, I'll just move my zealots up to make it look like they're trying to kill probes...

3) Hmm... there's a pylon here, that probably means that there's no expansion further down... I'll just kill the pylon.

4) That pylon going down would devestate my opponent!, he wouldn't be able to build anything and my reinforcements would kill him. I'll just leave it with 50 life...

5) He's attacking my expansion.... should I try to sneak drones out or try to save it? Maybe neither?

I could throw a game better than that!


Ok, that game was thrown not because of betting, but it was because the winner had to go face a top korean next round in elimenation.


I understand that, I just think it's pretty hilarious either way.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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