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United States33388 Posts
Such vicious little things, rumors.
Proleague Round 4 has started with a few little changes...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=118849
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=118744
The lineups aren't announced until right before the match begins, while high profile players UpMagic and Luxury have been dropped from the starting lineups.
The rumor? Match fixing.
Gambling on anything, including sports is heavily controlled in Korea, and is illegal in most cases. This doesn't stop people from gambling however, on a bunch of shady, illegal websites (or so they say).
A player might decide to bet against himself on several sites and take a dive...
Supposed postings on these gamblings websites suggest that Yarnc and Luxury are players to be betted on at your own risk, because their losses are... suspicious?
Another anecdote says one of these gambling sites suddenly closed all bets on this game before it began, smelling something fishy.
Of course, all just rumors.
But men love to gamble, and men love easy money, so would it really be a surprise if it were true? Disappointing, but not a surprise.
 
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I always thought that Yarnc and Lux have been sucking for the longest time... it would make sense in a sad way if it were true 
but ima believerrrr... i'd like to think the players are clean :>
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Katowice25012 Posts
ahhh these are the kinds of rumors I love to hear.
This kind of thing was apparently a pretty common deal in baseball in the days when professionals made very little money, but I guess after that world series was fixed they spent a lot of time clamping down on it (unsure why it stopped actually, I'm not well read on it at all).
its certainly something we all suspect at one time or another, I don't think many people would be shocked at all if some hard evidence was found.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
i've always believed that there is match fixing, cheating, and other stuff though never really found any proof
throughout gaming history, people have chosen to cheat in so many ways to gain edges, even kids like testie would hack just so that they could feel better about themselves and be king of the internet
are we really naive enough to believe that everyone would be honorable in the platform with the most at stake?
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Well they need that anma money (learned that from Rekrul  )
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cool stuff, love esports drama
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There's tons of corruption in pretty much all sports, wouldn't surprise me if there's some in sc as long as it's profitable enough to do it
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the rekrul effect outshines even mod posts
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bah this is what spiked rekrul to go searching
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This brings the question...did Rekrul bribed IdrA to lose on purpose in the TSL...
+ Show Spoiler +
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Though there's no concrete proof just yet (read: actual news), this thing just keeps getting worse and worse. How many slumps and blown builds have been cover ups? D:
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Seeing as rekrul thread does not deliver, this deserves to be bumped.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
This post in the Rekrul thread is pretty relevant:
On April 10 2010 16:10 Milkis wrote:Will translate important bits in a second. They're nowhere near official, other than the first one, since they're all seem to be a cafe blog post from a betting community. First Image: Sounds like an official that is posting about the Bogus - Savior match, which they seem to be very very certain that it was rigged. The last underlined bit talks about Bisu in that they think Bisu's matches that day also seemed a bit more rigged, but The Bogus - Savior game was something they actually got a report on. Second Image: Someone just talking about the logistics of it. Third Image: Someone posting that "Police are finally taking action" against Starcraft Betting Fourth Image: The Cafe Staff warning about Betting in games by UpMaGic, YellOw[ArnC], Luxury, because "everyone knows" there are forces behind planning their games.
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On April 10 2010 15:54 cascades wrote:
Seeing as rekrul thread does not deliver, this deserves to be bumped.
Agreed.
Am I the only one that has had a bad feeling about Yarnc and Lux for the past LONG while? I remember Lux doing well in his solo leagues for a long time, then doing all-in builds 99% of the time in proleague, usually losing. Also, Yarnc's consistency and skill just dropped off the charts after a sustained period of good play. Could be their poor play and all-in style just makes me biased against them.
Just imagine the in-house dynamics going on within teams? How do you feel if you find out one of your teammates has been rigging matches in proleague? Betrayed, that's how.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On April 10 2010 16:36 bias- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 15:54 cascades wrote:
Seeing as rekrul thread does not deliver, this deserves to be bumped. Agreed. Am I the only one that has had a bad feeling about Yarnc and Lux for the past LONG while? I remember Lux doing well in his solo leagues for a long time, then doing all-in builds 99% of the time in proleague, usually losing. Also, Yarnc's consistency and skill just dropped off the charts after a sustained period of good play. Could be their poor play and all-in style just makes me biased against them. Just imagine the in-house dynamics going on within teams? How do you feel if you find out one of your teammates has been rigging matches in proleague? Betrayed, that's how.
yea wtf and wouldn't the managers be like wtf lu;xury why do you keep doing shitty allin builds?!?!?!??
sighhh i always liked the twins
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I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious.
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On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious.
Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008).
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On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious.
jaehoon vs. rock?
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I've always found it weird that sangho's play varied so much.
Even if it is true, I just hope UpMagiC wasn't doing it.
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Man everyone is so quick to assume the worst about players like Upmagic lux and yarnc? :/
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I was always convinced that players sometimes "fixed" their match to avoid team killing. So doing it for money seems like the next logical step.
When there's money there's always be some kind of abuse.
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On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008).
Would you mind enlightening me on this subject?
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On April 10 2010 19:40 Mortician wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008). Would you mind enlightening me on this subject?
Oh... Stork was playing either Lx or PJ, and whoever lost the game would avoid playing Jaedong right away. The Chinese player and Stork were clearly both trying to throw the game, but Stork didn't try hard enough and ended up winning.
It was a really funny replay to watch.
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On April 10 2010 19:43 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 19:40 Mortician wrote:On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008). Would you mind enlightening me on this subject? Oh... Stork was playing either Lx or PJ, and whoever lost the game would avoid playing Jaedong right away. The Chinese player and Stork were clearly both trying to throw the game, but Stork didn't try hard enough and ended up winning. It was a really funny replay to watch.
Why didn't somebody just... GG and leave?
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i saw the rep and it was hilarious. stork going inside opponents base seeing that 6or7 gateways are powered by only 1 pylon. does he kill it? find out :D
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Someone should have pulled an idra that game 
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On April 10 2010 19:43 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 19:40 Mortician wrote:On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008). Would you mind enlightening me on this subject? Oh... Stork was playing either Lx or PJ, and whoever lost the game would avoid playing Jaedong right away. The Chinese player and Stork were clearly both trying to throw the game, but Stork didn't try hard enough and ended up winning. It was a really funny replay to watch.
it was Lx vs Stork...
Koreans are doing this every time at WCG to avoid own players... It's so common for them.
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On April 10 2010 20:02 Mortician wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 19:43 motbob wrote:On April 10 2010 19:40 Mortician wrote:On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008). Would you mind enlightening me on this subject? Oh... Stork was playing either Lx or PJ, and whoever lost the game would avoid playing Jaedong right away. The Chinese player and Stork were clearly both trying to throw the game, but Stork didn't try hard enough and ended up winning. It was a really funny replay to watch. Why didn't somebody just... GG and leave?
Lx asked referee to give up that game... But referee said give ups are not allowed. Lx tried to play standard, but when he sees that Stork expanded his 3rd Nexus with only few dragoons, Lx typed GG and left >.<
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On April 10 2010 20:27 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 19:43 motbob wrote:On April 10 2010 19:40 Mortician wrote:On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008). Would you mind enlightening me on this subject? Oh... Stork was playing either Lx or PJ, and whoever lost the game would avoid playing Jaedong right away. The Chinese player and Stork were clearly both trying to throw the game, but Stork didn't try hard enough and ended up winning. It was a really funny replay to watch. it was Lx vs Stork... Koreans are doing this every time at WCG to avoid own players... It's so common for them.
you really can't blame them for that, u just have to blame WCG for making the future bracket slots public information instead of just waiting for round 1 results then randomizing it
WCG = retards
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On April 10 2010 20:36 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 20:27 emucxg wrote:On April 10 2010 19:43 motbob wrote:On April 10 2010 19:40 Mortician wrote:On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008). Would you mind enlightening me on this subject? Oh... Stork was playing either Lx or PJ, and whoever lost the game would avoid playing Jaedong right away. The Chinese player and Stork were clearly both trying to throw the game, but Stork didn't try hard enough and ended up winning. It was a really funny replay to watch. it was Lx vs Stork... Koreans are doing this every time at WCG to avoid own players... It's so common for them. you really can't blame them for that, u just have to blame WCG for making the future bracket slots public information instead of just waiting for round 1 results then randomizing it WCG = retards
yeah you are right >.<
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On April 10 2010 20:27 emucxg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 19:43 motbob wrote:On April 10 2010 19:40 Mortician wrote:On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008). Would you mind enlightening me on this subject? Oh... Stork was playing either Lx or PJ, and whoever lost the game would avoid playing Jaedong right away. The Chinese player and Stork were clearly both trying to throw the game, but Stork didn't try hard enough and ended up winning. It was a really funny replay to watch. it was Lx vs Stork... Koreans are doing this every time at WCG to avoid own players... It's so common for them.
Actually if it was 2007 you are talking about it was WhiteRa and the other player in the 3 way tie was Ex from russia.
WhiteRa kept beating Stork and Stork kept beating Ex and Ex kept beating whitera. Eventually it broke up after something like 4 tiebreakers.
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On April 10 2010 20:36 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 20:27 emucxg wrote:On April 10 2010 19:43 motbob wrote:On April 10 2010 19:40 Mortician wrote:On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008). Would you mind enlightening me on this subject? Oh... Stork was playing either Lx or PJ, and whoever lost the game would avoid playing Jaedong right away. The Chinese player and Stork were clearly both trying to throw the game, but Stork didn't try hard enough and ended up winning. It was a really funny replay to watch. it was Lx vs Stork... Koreans are doing this every time at WCG to avoid own players... It's so common for them. you really can't blame them for that, u just have to blame WCG for making the future bracket slots public information instead of just waiting for round 1 results then randomizing it WCG = retards
They should've both lost all their units and minerals and then made it called a draw! =D
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On April 10 2010 20:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
WhiteRa kept beating Stork and Stork kept beating Ex and Ex kept beating whitera. Eventually it broke up after something like 4 tiebreakers.
What !?
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On April 10 2010 17:32 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. jaehoon vs. rock?
LOL
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
this is just depressing
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On April 10 2010 18:11 Vasoline73 wrote:
Man everyone is so quick to assume the worst about players like Upmagic lux and yarnc? :/
Up and Lux were both kicked off the A team. It's not much of a stretch to think something very strange is going down.
If we can accept that cheating might be going on, it is a very, very small step to suspect damn near everyone.
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Also if you think about it, there is really no reason to kick Upmagic. It's not like he's been playing terribly.
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Wow, just when I thought I heard EVERYTHING.
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betting is illegal in korea rite?
to some extent
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United States22883 Posts
Like jaywalking is illegal in the US.
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Doesn't seem surprising given the amount of money to be made by throwing a few games compared to their salaries.
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I know right if I spent the majority of my life playing video games to get pro at it I would AT LEAST want a nice salary and I mean come on not everyone is a Flash or a Jaedong so you sometimes do what you gotta do.
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I really hope this isnt the case for upmagic and july
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5003 Posts
On April 11 2010 01:21 Nal_rAwr wrote:
betting is illegal in korea rite?
to some extent
Yes, but there are a lot of sites that simply find ways around it. There's quite a number of sites that do this, apparently.
Pretty much, all of the images on that fomos link are from betting communities. They're pretty much admitting that there is a heavy amount of match fixing going on. I'd use them as heavy evidence, after all, they are the ones most affected by match fixing.
I'll repost the update here since it'll likely be a bit more visible.
Anyway, Let me do a better translation now that I'm actually awake and not falling asleep.
Note that it seems like these "sports gambling" places are called "Playgrounds", and i'll use that.
First Image:
The Playground Official is posting about the Bogus - Savior game. They had received reports that the game was rigged, but they let the bets go through anyway for some reason.
The last underlined bit talks about Bisu in that they think Bisu's matches that day also seemed a bit more rigged, but The Bogus - Savior game was something they actually got a report on, and the results of the game matched who the fixed loser was going to be.
Pay attention to the date -- this was back in December.
Second Image:
Things in parenthesis are in context. This is a cafe post in a playground.
There still seems to be people who don't believe in match fixing in Starcraft.
There is match fixing in Starcraft.
The biggest reason why people don't believe in match fixing in Starcraft is because they don't fix matches every day.
"Photon"(Name of a user) posted a thread about Starcraft match fixing. He is correct.
The players and the brokers do not directly bet on the game, nor do the "playgrounds"(what seems to be betting communities)
There are three things that are needed to fix a match in Starcraft
1) A player who will join the scheme
2) The broker that manages that player
3) A huge better that "spins"(not 100% sure what they mean here) at least 10 playgrounds
If these three conditions are met, then match fixing becomes possible.
The brokers go around playgrounds, and look for a huge betters, and see how many playgrounds they can "spin".
These brokers also pay attention to the odds given for Starcraft matches. After this, they approach this "huge better", to see if they're interested in a contract.
There are little to no "huge betters" in our cafe that have never been involved in one of these contracts
There are now more obstacles that make match fixing a little harder, but a long time ago, it was very easy and the playgrounds were swept by them.
<snip>
Third Image:
Translating the important bits from the post
Title: Police are investigating the Match Fixing in Starcraft
There was a lot of talk about whether or not there was Match Fixing in Starcraft.
Because I was one of those who knew about match fixing, I 100% believed it.
There was about two incidents where fixed matches were actually betted on.
<snip>
There will be an article on this soon.
There were a lot of pro players that had their hands in this. However, they are now wondering whether or not they should expand the issue or not.
I can't believe Jaedong and Bisu didn't get caught
Anyway, Starcraft should be safe to bet on
You'd have to be very very brave to even think about match fixing at this point.
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Yeah not sure if that remark about Jaedong and Bisu is believable judging by his tone (then again I rather not believe it).
In the comment thread the guy claims that Savior fixed the most number of matches, that a lot of the players in Hite got caught, and that the Hite's coach may be replaced soon. (note that this was back in february)
He also commented that Flash is very honest (ie, not involved)
Fourth Image:
The Cafe Staff in a playground warning about Betting in games by UpMaGic, YellOw[ArnC], Luxury, because "everyone knows" there are forces behind planning their games.
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"interesting" indeed. So there's evidence of this "even before the recent events", and the names seem to match up too well for comfort.
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I think rek already said a while ago when he first dropped the anma bomb that jaedong and flash are both too young to be in stuff like that.
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On April 11 2010 06:48 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
I think rek already said a while ago when he first dropped the anma bomb that jaedong and flash are both too young to be in stuff like that.
Actually, Jaedong and FlaSh are good enough to just bet on themselves.
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On April 11 2010 06:56 Triple7 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 06:48 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
I think rek already said a while ago when he first dropped the anma bomb that jaedong and flash are both too young to be in stuff like that. Actually, Jaedong and FlaSh are good enough to just bet on themselves.
Thats what would make it worse. Can you imagine the action you could get betting against Flash in his massive TvT streak?
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On April 10 2010 20:53 Mortician wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 20:39 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
WhiteRa kept beating Stork and Stork kept beating Ex and Ex kept beating whitera. Eventually it broke up after something like 4 tiebreakers. What !?
Stork wanted to come in 2nd to avoid meeting Hwasin (I think) in the Ro8. To do that he needed to go 1-1 in the tiebreaker and have the other players go 2-0 and 0-2 (instead of both 1-1), which meant he needed to lose to the winner of White-Ra vs Ex. Presumably he banked on White-Ra beating Ex, so he threw his game vs White-Ra, but Ra lost to Ex. So they had another tiebreaker and the same thing happened again... and again. IIRC eventually Stork gave up and 2-0'd them, and went on to knock Hwasin out.
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On the lux vs hwasin game posted in the op...
watch from about 4:05 on until lux engages the marines with his drones. they just stand there and do not attack for most of the time. he gets his drones up by the marines. but they don't do anything.
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We should get real proof/confirmation before we make such serious accusations. I'm not denying the possibility by any means, I'm quite certain shady shit happens more often than we suspect, but it seems irresponsible to spam rumors. However, this is in the blog section, so it's less wreckless... but then again, it's being initiated by TL supremes like WaxAngel and Rekrul, thus it's going to carry far more weight than a mere blog. But it all feels so dirty. Proof, please. With that said, I completely understand why this blog was made, I just... Blek. It's like bad teasing.
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On April 11 2010 14:36 Crimson wrote:
On the lux vs hwasin game posted in the op...
watch from about 4:05 on until lux engages the marines with his drones. they just stand there and do not attack for most of the time. he gets his drones up by the marines. but they don't do anything.
No. They killed 2 or 3 rines, but Hwasin had a nice spread of remaining rines and thus repelled the remaining drones. Granted, it wasn't wonderful control, but he was fucked at that point regardless.
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Ofcourse bogus savior game was rigged- The clue was in the name! jk
Kinda sad to see this, but not really surprising. What kind of consequences can they face and what's the likelihood?
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I'm really just curious to see how far back this goes.
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no more than before 2007, no betting before sc before then
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It's completely conceivable (and inevitable) that betting and match-throwing would somehow be involved in something this big (read: when there's a lot of money involved). I guess I just didn't want to believe...
On April 11 2010 09:07 SonuvBob wrote:
eventually Stork gave up and 2-0'd them, and went on to knock Hwasin out.
<3 Stork.
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On April 11 2010 16:15 phosphorylation wrote:
no more than before 2007, no betting before sc before then
is that a fact, sir?
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that what i get out of korean sources
none of this is really fact yet
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Meh, Upmagic just seems to go idiot mode after his crazy strategy works by going all in and not looking after his econ when he doesn't need too often like vs Lux on Outsider. Its like he doesn't have the lategame decision making to actually finish the game... I dunno, he's just disappointing and should win a lot of games he loses which seems to be the reason why that person accuses him.
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On April 11 2010 21:06 Antisocialmunky wrote:
Meh, Upmagic just seems to go idiot mode after his crazy strategy works by going all in and not looking after his econ when he doesn't need too often like vs Lux on Outsider. Its like he doesn't have the lategame decision making to actually finish the game... I dunno, he's just disappointing and should win a lot of games he loses which seems to be the reason why that person accuses him.
No, he's being accused because he is obviously one of the top players IN eSTRO, and he was randomly kicked from the A team.
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On April 10 2010 16:32 motbob wrote:This post in the Rekrul thread is pretty relevant: Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 16:10 Milkis wrote:Will translate important bits in a second. They're nowhere near official, other than the first one, since they're all seem to be a cafe blog post from a betting community. First Image: Sounds like an official that is posting about the Bogus - Savior match, which they seem to be very very certain that it was rigged. The last underlined bit talks about Bisu in that they think Bisu's matches that day also seemed a bit more rigged, but The Bogus - Savior game was something they actually got a report on. Second Image: Someone just talking about the logistics of it. Third Image: Someone posting that "Police are finally taking action" against Starcraft Betting Fourth Image: The Cafe Staff warning about Betting in games by UpMaGic, YellOw[ArnC], Luxury, because "everyone knows" there are forces behind planning their games.
haha there are no vods from that Bogus / Savior game, but the live report is pretty interesting in retrospect. I guess he might have thrown it by "forgetting" to research consume. Here are some choice quotes:
On December 03 2009 20:20 meegrean wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 20:19 HopLight wrote:On December 03 2009 20:19 konadora wrote:
sAviOr just lost to face Bisu in loser's match
IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN Thats why he's crying? He's acting. He will crush Bisu and then move on to crush the loser of the Winner's Match.
On December 03 2009 20:21 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2009 20:19 HopLight wrote:On December 03 2009 20:19 konadora wrote:
sAviOr just lost to face Bisu in loser's match
IT'S ALL PART OF THE PLAN Thats why he's crying? "My plan.. it's too beautiful"
On December 03 2009 20:18 Mystlord wrote:Saviorrrr so gooood. WTF BUT NOW SO BAD???? BOGUS PUSHING INTO SAVIOR'S NATURAL
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On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008).
Are you talking about Stork vs. ForGG where Stork wins by proxying carriers two feet from ForGG's main?
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Looks like "Luxury Chaos Theory" has been solved
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On April 11 2010 15:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 14:36 Crimson wrote:
On the lux vs hwasin game posted in the op...
watch from about 4:05 on until lux engages the marines with his drones. they just stand there and do not attack for most of the time. he gets his drones up by the marines. but they don't do anything. No. They killed 2 or 3 rines, but Hwasin had a nice spread of remaining rines and thus repelled the remaining drones. Granted, it wasn't wonderful control, but he was fucked at that point regardless.
He pulled all of his drones out of his main wayyyy too early, and he could have also been mining at the natural when it finished and pulled drones off when needed, especially since lings were on the way. It looks like pretty awful decision making.
edit: Sorry didn't mean to doublepost, thought i was in a different thread! T_T
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lol wtf Upmagic was one of my favorite mech players. He played mech TvZ sooooo much.
Ggaemo vs Upmagic on Heartbreak ridge was a classic.
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On April 11 2010 02:58 Emon_ wrote:Stork vs. Lx, WCG 2008 http://video.pomoho.com/ent/2165099Theres a battle where Storks puts 9 zealots on hold so that Lx's 5 dragoons can kill his 4 dragoons.
Lol that game was rather funny.
1) My dragoon micro is too good, I need to "accidentally" shoot my nexus and mismicro a bit.
2) Hmmm, my zealots have almost killed his dragoons... I can't do that, I'll just move my zealots up to make it look like they're trying to kill probes...
3) Hmm... there's a pylon here, that probably means that there's no expansion further down... I'll just kill the pylon.
4) That pylon going down would devestate my opponent!, he wouldn't be able to build anything and my reinforcements would kill him. I'll just leave it with 50 life...
5) He's attacking my expansion.... should I try to sneak drones out or try to save it? Maybe neither?
I could throw a game better than that!
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If this is true then this is really fucking sad .. =/
[e] And tbh, it seems like the evidence is mounting and this does seem to be true. Breaks my heart
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Look at the bright side: during this investigation, you are almost guaranteed that no player is throwing matches.
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On April 12 2010 17:06 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 17:00 Jyvblamo wrote:On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious. Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008). Are you talking about Stork vs. ForGG where Stork wins by proxying carriers two feet from ForGG's main?
No, it was Stork vs some foreigner. Stork had to lose in order to not face a Korean in the next round.
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On April 14 2010 14:13 fight_or_flight wrote:
Look at the bright side: during this investigation, you are almost guaranteed that no player is throwing matches.
That's actually an interesting comment ... and seems to make sense.
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On April 14 2010 14:13 fight_or_flight wrote:
Look at the bright side: during this investigation, you are almost guaranteed that no player is throwing matches.
Yeah Effort decided to stop throwing ZvTs lol.
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On April 14 2010 09:21 obesechicken13 wrote:Lol that game was rather funny. 1) My dragoon micro is too good, I need to "accidentally" shoot my nexus and mismicro a bit. 2) Hmmm, my zealots have almost killed his dragoons... I can't do that, I'll just move my zealots up to make it look like they're trying to kill probes... 3) Hmm... there's a pylon here, that probably means that there's no expansion further down... I'll just kill the pylon. 4) That pylon going down would devestate my opponent!, he wouldn't be able to build anything and my reinforcements would kill him. I'll just leave it with 50 life... 5) He's attacking my expansion.... should I try to sneak drones out or try to save it? Maybe neither? I could throw a game better than that!
Ok, that game was thrown not because of betting, but it was because the winner had to go face a top korean next round in elimenation.
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On April 15 2010 04:39 lone_hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2010 09:21 obesechicken13 wrote:On April 11 2010 02:58 Emon_ wrote:Stork vs. Lx, WCG 2008 http://video.pomoho.com/ent/2165099Theres a battle where Storks puts 9 zealots on hold so that Lx's 5 dragoons can kill his 4 dragoons. Lol that game was rather funny. 1) My dragoon micro is too good, I need to "accidentally" shoot my nexus and mismicro a bit. 2) Hmmm, my zealots have almost killed his dragoons... I can't do that, I'll just move my zealots up to make it look like they're trying to kill probes... 3) Hmm... there's a pylon here, that probably means that there's no expansion further down... I'll just kill the pylon. 4) That pylon going down would devestate my opponent!, he wouldn't be able to build anything and my reinforcements would kill him. I'll just leave it with 50 life... 5) He's attacking my expansion.... should I try to sneak drones out or try to save it? Maybe neither? I could throw a game better than that! Ok, that game was thrown not because of betting, but it was because the winner had to go face a top korean next round in elimenation.
I understand that, I just think it's pretty hilarious either way.
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