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United States33714 Posts
Such vicious little things, rumors.
Proleague Round 4 has started with a few little changes...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=118849
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=118744
The lineups aren't announced until right before the match begins, while high profile players UpMagic and Luxury have been dropped from the starting lineups.
The rumor? Match fixing.
Gambling on anything, including sports is heavily controlled in Korea, and is illegal in most cases. This doesn't stop people from gambling however, on a bunch of shady, illegal websites (or so they say).
A player might decide to bet against himself on several sites and take a dive...
Supposed postings on these gamblings websites suggest that Yarnc and Luxury are players to be betted on at your own risk, because their losses are... suspicious?
Another anecdote says one of these gambling sites suddenly closed all bets on this game before it began, smelling something fishy.
Of course, all just rumors.
But men love to gamble, and men love easy money, so would it really be a surprise if it were true? Disappointing, but not a surprise.
 
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I always thought that Yarnc and Lux have been sucking for the longest time... it would make sense in a sad way if it were true 
but ima believerrrr... i'd like to think the players are clean :>
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Katowice25012 Posts
ahhh these are the kinds of rumors I love to hear.
This kind of thing was apparently a pretty common deal in baseball in the days when professionals made very little money, but I guess after that world series was fixed they spent a lot of time clamping down on it (unsure why it stopped actually, I'm not well read on it at all).
its certainly something we all suspect at one time or another, I don't think many people would be shocked at all if some hard evidence was found.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
i've always believed that there is match fixing, cheating, and other stuff though never really found any proof
throughout gaming history, people have chosen to cheat in so many ways to gain edges, even kids like testie would hack just so that they could feel better about themselves and be king of the internet
are we really naive enough to believe that everyone would be honorable in the platform with the most at stake?
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Well they need that anma money (learned that from Rekrul  )
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cool stuff, love esports drama
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There's tons of corruption in pretty much all sports, wouldn't surprise me if there's some in sc as long as it's profitable enough to do it
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the rekrul effect outshines even mod posts
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bah this is what spiked rekrul to go searching
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This brings the question...did Rekrul bribed IdrA to lose on purpose in the TSL...
+ Show Spoiler +
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Though there's no concrete proof just yet (read: actual news), this thing just keeps getting worse and worse. How many slumps and blown builds have been cover ups? D:
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Seeing as rekrul thread does not deliver, this deserves to be bumped.
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
This post in the Rekrul thread is pretty relevant:
On April 10 2010 16:10 Milkis wrote:Will translate important bits in a second. They're nowhere near official, other than the first one, since they're all seem to be a cafe blog post from a betting community. First Image: Sounds like an official that is posting about the Bogus - Savior match, which they seem to be very very certain that it was rigged. The last underlined bit talks about Bisu in that they think Bisu's matches that day also seemed a bit more rigged, but The Bogus - Savior game was something they actually got a report on. Second Image: Someone just talking about the logistics of it. Third Image: Someone posting that "Police are finally taking action" against Starcraft Betting Fourth Image: The Cafe Staff warning about Betting in games by UpMaGic, YellOw[ArnC], Luxury, because "everyone knows" there are forces behind planning their games.
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On April 10 2010 15:54 cascades wrote:
Seeing as rekrul thread does not deliver, this deserves to be bumped.
Agreed.
Am I the only one that has had a bad feeling about Yarnc and Lux for the past LONG while? I remember Lux doing well in his solo leagues for a long time, then doing all-in builds 99% of the time in proleague, usually losing. Also, Yarnc's consistency and skill just dropped off the charts after a sustained period of good play. Could be their poor play and all-in style just makes me biased against them.
Just imagine the in-house dynamics going on within teams? How do you feel if you find out one of your teammates has been rigging matches in proleague? Betrayed, that's how.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On April 10 2010 16:36 bias- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2010 15:54 cascades wrote:
Seeing as rekrul thread does not deliver, this deserves to be bumped. Agreed. Am I the only one that has had a bad feeling about Yarnc and Lux for the past LONG while? I remember Lux doing well in his solo leagues for a long time, then doing all-in builds 99% of the time in proleague, usually losing. Also, Yarnc's consistency and skill just dropped off the charts after a sustained period of good play. Could be their poor play and all-in style just makes me biased against them. Just imagine the in-house dynamics going on within teams? How do you feel if you find out one of your teammates has been rigging matches in proleague? Betrayed, that's how.
yea wtf and wouldn't the managers be like wtf lu;xury why do you keep doing shitty allin builds?!?!?!??
sighhh i always liked the twins
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I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious.
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On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious.
Basically Stork's group games in WCG 2007 (I think it was 2007..., maybe 2008).
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On April 10 2010 16:59 sporkify wrote:
I just want to see a match where both players have bet on each other. That ought to be hilarious.
jaehoon vs. rock?
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I've always found it weird that sangho's play varied so much.
Even if it is true, I just hope UpMagiC wasn't doing it.
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EPT
