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Nal_rAwr
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Gryffes
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Emon_
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http://video.pomoho.com/ent/2165099 Theres a battle where Storks puts 9 zealots on hold so that Lx's 5 dragoons can kill his 4 dragoons. | ||
Ideas
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Milkis
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On April 11 2010 01:21 Nal_rAwr wrote: betting is illegal in korea rite? to some extent Yes, but there are a lot of sites that simply find ways around it. There's quite a number of sites that do this, apparently. Pretty much, all of the images on that fomos link are from betting communities. They're pretty much admitting that there is a heavy amount of match fixing going on. I'd use them as heavy evidence, after all, they are the ones most affected by match fixing. I'll repost the update here since it'll likely be a bit more visible. Anyway, Let me do a better translation now that I'm actually awake and not falling asleep. Note that it seems like these "sports gambling" places are called "Playgrounds", and i'll use that. First Image: The Playground Official is posting about the Bogus - Savior game. They had received reports that the game was rigged, but they let the bets go through anyway for some reason. The last underlined bit talks about Bisu in that they think Bisu's matches that day also seemed a bit more rigged, but The Bogus - Savior game was something they actually got a report on, and the results of the game matched who the fixed loser was going to be. Pay attention to the date -- this was back in December. Second Image: Things in parenthesis are in context. This is a cafe post in a playground. There still seems to be people who don't believe in match fixing in Starcraft. There is match fixing in Starcraft. The biggest reason why people don't believe in match fixing in Starcraft is because they don't fix matches every day. "Photon"(Name of a user) posted a thread about Starcraft match fixing. He is correct. The players and the brokers do not directly bet on the game, nor do the "playgrounds"(what seems to be betting communities) There are three things that are needed to fix a match in Starcraft 1) A player who will join the scheme 2) The broker that manages that player 3) A huge better that "spins"(not 100% sure what they mean here) at least 10 playgrounds If these three conditions are met, then match fixing becomes possible. The brokers go around playgrounds, and look for a huge betters, and see how many playgrounds they can "spin". These brokers also pay attention to the odds given for Starcraft matches. After this, they approach this "huge better", to see if they're interested in a contract. There are little to no "huge betters" in our cafe that have never been involved in one of these contracts There are now more obstacles that make match fixing a little harder, but a long time ago, it was very easy and the playgrounds were swept by them. <snip> Third Image: Translating the important bits from the post Title: Police are investigating the Match Fixing in Starcraft There was a lot of talk about whether or not there was Match Fixing in Starcraft. Because I was one of those who knew about match fixing, I 100% believed it. There was about two incidents where fixed matches were actually betted on. <snip> There will be an article on this soon. There were a lot of pro players that had their hands in this. However, they are now wondering whether or not they should expand the issue or not. I can't believe Jaedong and Bisu didn't get caught Anyway, Starcraft should be safe to bet on You'd have to be very very brave to even think about match fixing at this point. <snip> Yeah not sure if that remark about Jaedong and Bisu is believable judging by his tone (then again I rather not believe it). In the comment thread the guy claims that Savior fixed the most number of matches, that a lot of the players in Hite got caught, and that the Hite's coach may be replaced soon. (note that this was back in february) He also commented that Flash is very honest (ie, not involved) Fourth Image: The Cafe Staff in a playground warning about Betting in games by UpMaGic, YellOw[ArnC], Luxury, because "everyone knows" there are forces behind planning their games. ----- "interesting" indeed. So there's evidence of this "even before the recent events", and the names seem to match up too well for comfort. | ||
Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17717 Posts
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Triple7
United States656 Posts
On April 11 2010 06:48 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I think rek already said a while ago when he first dropped the anma bomb that jaedong and flash are both too young to be in stuff like that. Actually, Jaedong and FlaSh are good enough to just bet on themselves. | ||
Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On April 11 2010 06:56 Triple7 wrote: Actually, Jaedong and FlaSh are good enough to just bet on themselves. Thats what would make it worse. Can you imagine the action you could get betting against Flash in his massive TvT streak? | ||
SonuvBob
Aiur21548 Posts
Stork wanted to come in 2nd to avoid meeting Hwasin (I think) in the Ro8. To do that he needed to go 1-1 in the tiebreaker and have the other players go 2-0 and 0-2 (instead of both 1-1), which meant he needed to lose to the winner of White-Ra vs Ex. Presumably he banked on White-Ra beating Ex, so he threw his game vs White-Ra, but Ra lost to Ex. So they had another tiebreaker and the same thing happened again... and again. IIRC eventually Stork gave up and 2-0'd them, and went on to knock Hwasin out. | ||
Crimson
United States311 Posts
watch from about 4:05 on until lux engages the marines with his drones. they just stand there and do not attack for most of the time. he gets his drones up by the marines. but they don't do anything. | ||
MountainDewJunkie
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
On April 11 2010 14:36 Crimson wrote: On the lux vs hwasin game posted in the op... watch from about 4:05 on until lux engages the marines with his drones. they just stand there and do not attack for most of the time. he gets his drones up by the marines. but they don't do anything. No. They killed 2 or 3 rines, but Hwasin had a nice spread of remaining rines and thus repelled the remaining drones. Granted, it wasn't wonderful control, but he was fucked at that point regardless. | ||
ironchef
Canada1350 Posts
Kinda sad to see this, but not really surprising. What kind of consequences can they face and what's the likelihood? | ||
tonight
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phosphorylation
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hofodomo
United States257 Posts
On April 11 2010 09:07 SonuvBob wrote: eventually Stork gave up and 2-0'd them, and went on to knock Hwasin out. <3 Stork. | ||
tonight
United States11130 Posts
On April 11 2010 16:15 phosphorylation wrote: no more than before 2007, no betting before sc before then is that a fact, sir? | ||
phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
none of this is really fact yet | ||
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