EPTCaught using Bittorrent in school - Page 2
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On February 05 2010 02:42 {88}iNcontroL wrote: They mostly come in the night. Mostly. "They mostly come at night. Mostly." Get the quote right or die in a fire. | ||
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DivinO
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On February 05 2010 03:43 XinRan wrote: My school actually logs every single website you've been to. They know which website you've accessed, when you've accessed it, and how much data was transferred. Good luck doing any meaningful downloading if your school has a similar policy. Thankfully my school doesn't do that. Otherwise TeamLiquid and I would be apart during school. And that would hurt. | ||
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leetchaos
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On February 05 2010 02:19 BabyRhino wrote: I have no idea how schools know if you use bittorrent unless they actually look into it ... how can the school know? It's actually much more trivial than you think. Publishing companies (or a company they hire) run a torrent client. Download their copyrighted works, and log all of the other peer's IP's. Since your school is essentially an ISP they hold IP's in a certain range, if your on that peer list then they just match your IP to your school address range and send a DMCA warning to your school asking them to take action. The school then references the IP to either a room number or an authenticated account (at my school you have to log in to use the network). They send an email and done. | ||
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AraqirG
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My school (RIT) has also been cracking down, I think they mostly go after people who are sharing though. The problem is with bitorrent, it is impossible NOT to share. Its part of the protocol. As a University IT employee and a extensive bittorrent/file sharing user, I bring answers. The amount of network monitoring colleges do varies a ton. Some schools monitor and throttle (or restrict) specific types of traffic (bittorrent, limewire, etc), some just monitor bandwidth (how much you download/upload) and some don't really monitor anything. There are 2 possible ways you can get caught, by your school or by a copyright organization. If your school monitors bittorrent or traffic, you may get caught by your university. If you live in the United States, the other method of being caught is through a DMCA notice (Digital Millenium Copyright Act). In this case, a copyright holder, such as HBO, MPAA, RIAA, etc, catch you using bittorrent. If you live in the US, you can (for the most part, this method isn't perfect) avoid these DMCA notices by sticking to private bittorent trackers. Private trackers are websites which require accounts to download files. Often you can only get an account through being invited by a current member of the site. These sites are not any more legal than public ones (such as the pirate bay, mininova, etc) but you are far less likely to recieve a DMCA notice. If your university monitors bandwidth, you can avoid raising suspicion by not downloading a lot (how much a lot is depends on the university). Call your university IT and just ask is there are any bandwidth restrictions in place. If your university monitors or throttles bittorrent or other protocols, the solution is a little more tricky. You can rent a seedbox. Seedboxes are severs (usually located in europe) which are on very fast internet connections and are usually used to download and share files over bittorrent. These do cost money and can be somewhat expensive. A major downside to seedboxes is once the files are done downloading to the seedbox, you have to transfer them to your personal computer. Another way to avoid a university's annoying practices is run your internet traffic through a VPN. You can more details here: http://filesharefreak.com/2008/10/16/anonymous-bittorrent-through-a-vpn-the-speed-tests/ If anyone has specific questions I'll do my best to answer them. Hope that helps! ninjaedit: My school is very lax about network management. I did about 60 TB of traffic my freshman year over bittorrent. | ||
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On February 05 2010 03:05 AssuredVacancy wrote: Yeah man, I don't get why they keep arresting me when I take stuff from my local grocery store without paying. ISN'T IT FREE!? don't you think you should be able to copy stuff you see in the grocery store for free though? like ooh! apples *copy*. | ||
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Lokomis
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- Schools can and do monitor their network usage. Bittorrent offers encryption; Use it. - While using encryption they can not identify whether or not files being downloaded are copywritten or unlicensed. For all they know you are using the BitTorrent protocol to download Free or Open Source Software. If that is truly the case then nothing illegal has occurred and you have a case against the school's claims. - In regards to software that isn't free and/or requires a license, most colleges offer a range of Microsoft software (Win7 Pro, Sharepoint, Visual Studio.net, SQL Server and so on) via the MSDNAA. If she required any Microsoft product for use in class(es) she should have checked with the school to see what is offered. - Contrary to what most people believe you don't get caught up as easily for downloading files, you get in trouble for sharing them. The nature of BitTorrent has you steadily uploading back to peers as you download from them. You can disable your BitTorrent client from uploading (sharing) but this will kill your ratio and get you banned from most trackers once your ratio becomes too poor. Copyright organizations are going after downloaders but they are mostly concerned with catching the big data-hoarders that are sharing copywritten content back out to the public. On February 05 2010 08:41 Loser777 wrote: Hmm, highschooler here, does tor work in college (albiet slow) for filesharing? Do NOT use Tor for BitTorrent. At least not for the actual transfer of data. Tor already operates in manner similar to BitTorrent and if users began funneling their downloads through the Tor network, Tor would screech to a halt from such a heavy toll being exacted upon it. You can set up your BitTorrent client to tunnel Tracker communication through Tor. This is not the same thing as tunneling the data through it but it does hide your identity/communication with the Trackers themselves. | ||
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iNcontroL
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On February 05 2010 04:48 mmp wrote: "They mostly come at night. Mostly." Get the quote right or die in a fire. I'm get it right whilst throwing you into a fire sir. BAM | ||
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On February 05 2010 03:05 AssuredVacancy wrote: Yeah man, I don't get why they keep arresting me when I take stuff from my local grocery store without paying. ISN'T IT FREE!? that comparison doesnt work. why? because you can copy files without taking anything away from someone. nobody is losing anything. besides, people are allowed to market their stuff, but there is no guarantee that others also buy it. "intellectual property" is major bs and also one of the major things that keep progress from taking full effect in being useful and solving problems. because some people... just have to make money no matter the cost. long live the stone age human mentality. | ||
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