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Traveler
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States451 Posts
December 21 2009 22:51 GMT
#1
Has anyone noticed that the perhaps Blizzard screwed up when they made the Scout and the Wraith?

What I'm talking about is this... the Scout's ground attack sounds like 5 bullets hitting something, and the air attack looks a lot like the Goliath missiles, while the Wraith has like a laser beam attack.


Who else thought that Terran was the one with projectile weapons while Protoss had the Laser like attacks?

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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 21 2009 22:53 GMT
#2
haha, this is true. I expect better from sc2!
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 21 2009 22:53 GMT
#3
That's what a tracer round looks like, sort of. And are there any other protoss lasers? Not really. Also the bullets are blue and look a lot like the energy crap that zealot blades/probe attack/dragoon ball has.
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Traveler
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States451 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 22:55:51
December 21 2009 22:55 GMT
#4
Wait really?

I'm a partially colorblind so I never noticed that.

I guess, but still they behave like I think a Terran ship should behave... like the sound seriously sounds like the marine attack sound.
Can you ever argue in favor of something without first proving it?
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
December 21 2009 22:56 GMT
#5
Terran gets the lasers (wraith, BC) and protoss gets the blue stuff.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
December 21 2009 23:02 GMT
#6
who cares. nobody cares about the scout
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 23:08:51
December 21 2009 23:08 GMT
#7
On December 22 2009 07:56 Scorch wrote:
Terran gets the lasers (wraith, BC) and protoss gets the blue stuff.


yeah..
protoss pretty much doesn't have a single laser attack lol (i guess interceptors sort of count)
it's all just blue energy stuff

also clearly i play too much hon now.. since i was thinking of the sand wraith and scout heroes after reading the title >.<
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besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 23:11:45
December 21 2009 23:11 GMT
#8
What i wonder is how is it a " scout " when 2 of those can wreck a BC
And it cost like a damn capital ship
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Ronald_McD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada807 Posts
December 21 2009 23:15 GMT
#9
On December 22 2009 07:55 Traveler wrote:
Wait really?

I'm a partially colorblind so I never noticed that.



Yeah man. Antimatter Missiles (The Scout's Air Attack) are like glowing blue missiles.
Pretty cool if you ask me.
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LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
December 21 2009 23:17 GMT
#10
I thought both races were capable of either technology.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 21 2009 23:18 GMT
#11
It's unfortunate that the scout is so useless, considering it has some of the more cool attack animations in the game.
Oh well, time to go do some 2 stargate scout games in iccup then.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
December 21 2009 23:24 GMT
#12
I did think it odd when I first started playing that the Scout had what appeared to be bullets while the Wraith had lasers. So there.
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quiong
Profile Joined January 2008
United States268 Posts
December 21 2009 23:29 GMT
#13
In the cinematics I don't think a wraith ever used the air to air missiles either. They were firing the lasers against air/space targets.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
December 21 2009 23:38 GMT
#14
They fucked up by making Scouts useless. 4 scouts can't kill a fucking probe. WTF.
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
December 21 2009 23:41 GMT
#15
On December 22 2009 08:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
They fucked up by making Scouts useless. 4 scouts can't kill a fucking probe. WTF.

I find this hilarious. And I always found it weird that Scouts were called Scouts when they don't actually scout anything...
this is my quote.
aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
December 21 2009 23:47 GMT
#16
i always wondered what the hell they were thinking when they came up with the build time // damage // cost of the scout.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 22 2009 00:05 GMT
#17
On December 22 2009 08:47 aeroH wrote:
i always wondered what the hell they were thinking when they came up with the build time // damage // cost of the scout.


their aa damage is pretty hot tbh
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
December 22 2009 00:20 GMT
#18
scouts are so fucking good

anybody plays protoss and wins without scouts should uninstall starcraft
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 22 2009 00:20 GMT
#19
On December 22 2009 08:41 Ozarugold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 08:38 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
They fucked up by making Scouts useless. 4 scouts can't kill a fucking probe. WTF.

I find this hilarious. And I always found it weird that Scouts were called Scouts when they don't actually scout anything...

To be fair, they might be what the Protoss race uses to scout with lore-wise. But looking at the unit ingame it's a bit strange indeed.
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 22 2009 00:30 GMT
#20
i want mutalisks with interceptors coming out of them
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 00:43:23
December 22 2009 00:42 GMT
#21
The scout has sight upgrades and speed upgrades. It was the "cheap" air unit before BW (corsairs) if you're going stargate instead of robo+obs. It doesn't deal very much ground damage. Sounds like it fits the definition of scout to me.
horang3
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
December 22 2009 00:47 GMT
#22
I want interceptors with mutalisks coming out of them
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 22 2009 00:59 GMT
#23
While we're at it, why don't probes probe anything?

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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 22 2009 01:16 GMT
#24
I want carriers with scouts coming out of them
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
December 22 2009 01:19 GMT
#25
On December 22 2009 10:16 Navi wrote:
I want carriers with scouts coming out of them

This sort of thing will be easy to do in the sc2 editor. I know I plan on making a carrier with a personal cloaking field that has archons in place of the interceptors. That will be so bad ass.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 22 2009 01:28 GMT
#26
scouts would be awesome with better ground attack

personally, i dont see anything wrong with wraiths lazering it up, but scouts shooting bullets is kind of awkward
:)
Rainbow
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States249 Posts
December 22 2009 02:12 GMT
#27
I always thought the scout had a shotgun like ground attack. It would've been supported if they had splash, but oh well. Scouts are actually pretty good against air, especially big units.

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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
December 22 2009 02:20 GMT
#28
On December 22 2009 08:18 Comeh wrote:

Oh well, time to go do some 2 stargate scout games in iccup then.



that's the spirit!

i went stargate and scout once but got completely run over by a simple 2 fac push :/ sucks
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
December 22 2009 02:31 GMT
#29
G 5 ?
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 22 2009 02:51 GMT
#30
On December 22 2009 11:20 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 08:18 Comeh wrote:

Oh well, time to go do some 2 stargate scout games in iccup then.



that's the spirit!

i went stargate and scout once but got completely run over by a simple 2 fac push :/ sucks

Well, first of all, the build is completely useless unless you go 2 stargate, (and usually have to go 12 nexus - > 1 gate). And also, you need to be really lucky and face the worst players of all time. If you can get scouts in time, you should be able to stop the 2 fact (unless they have goliaths/a ridiculous amount of marines).
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
December 22 2009 02:57 GMT
#31
Well besides the scout having lame blue bullets, I don't like how Blizzard made 3 of the protoss projectiles look the same (arb, goon, cannon). I mean, at least BC shoots bigger lasers than wraiths. Arbiter should have more badass attacks (hehe sorry terrans) and scouts should fire colossus (sc2) - like lasers for both air and ground... totally cool.
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GW.Methos
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States249 Posts
December 22 2009 03:14 GMT
#32
too true
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
December 22 2009 04:00 GMT
#33
scouts need to be abit cheaper, thats all. they are a good unit and could be useful if they didnt cost almost as much as a carrier.
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MechaGodzilla
Profile Joined December 2009
United States6 Posts
December 22 2009 04:03 GMT
#34
Wraiths should be cheaper, or at least come with free cloak.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 22 2009 04:48 GMT
#35
On December 22 2009 11:57 OpticalShot wrote:
Well besides the scout having lame blue bullets, I don't like how Blizzard made 3 of the protoss projectiles look the same (arb, goon, cannon). I mean, at least BC shoots bigger lasers than wraiths. Arbiter should have more badass attacks (hehe sorry terrans) and scouts should fire colossus (sc2) - like lasers for both air and ground... totally cool.


Yeah, I think if the scout could shoot a single attack for both air and ground (kinda like the muta i guess) that did a fair amount of damage (maybe 15) without splash, it would be seen a lot more in games and maybe even be used as a TR to carriers.
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maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
December 22 2009 05:22 GMT
#36
On December 22 2009 08:08 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 07:56 Scorch wrote:
Terran gets the lasers (wraith, BC) and protoss gets the blue stuff.


yeah..
protoss pretty much doesn't have a single laser attack lol (i guess interceptors sort of count)
it's all just blue energy stuff

also clearly i play too much hon now.. since i was thinking of the sand wraith and scout heroes after reading the title >.<


same here...effing gay scout...most annoying hero ever, along with arachna.

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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 22 2009 06:18 GMT
#37
On December 22 2009 10:19 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 10:16 Navi wrote:
I want carriers with scouts coming out of them

This sort of thing will be easy to do in the sc2 editor. I know I plan on making a carrier with a personal cloaking field that has archons in place of the interceptors. That will be so bad ass.



Oh jesus christ.

I just pictured... critical mass SC1 carriers....flying over a shitton of goliaths and turrets supported by tanks and vultures... mines scattered everywhere.

Our young Terran hero starts to micro those goliaths towards the carriers...until GIANT BLUE THINGS FLY OUT OF THEM AND ZAP EM TO SHIT!

Bwhaha!
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Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4212 Posts
December 22 2009 07:49 GMT
#38
Honestly, what's the point of making a unit called a "scout" when there is a faster air unit that can be produced for cheaper, and it's sight range isn't any more impressive either.....

If the Scout came with the speed and sight upgrade, I could see it being used a lot more. But that won't happen.....
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