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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
I assume there is a bottleneck effect with hardware so what motherboard, RAM, or other relevant components will I need to fully take advantage of a Phenom II x4 945 + Radeon HD 4870 combo?? Newegg has a CPU + motherboard combo (link) but all the mobo specs are just mumbo jumbo to me. Can somebody recommend a decent motherboard?   | ||
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Pawsom
United States928 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On November 21 2009 03:45 Ecael wrote: The real question is why a Phenom II and not an i5. Should also keep in mind that if you want future upgrades, crossfire could be highly useful. Cheaper and performances really close in games ? o,o | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17676 Posts
On November 21 2009 03:35 Pawsom wrote: Get 4gb (2x2gb) ram. Find a mobo that supports 8gb (4slots) so you can upgrade later if you want. Make sure the motherboard is PCIe 2.0 x16. A 1.0 slot will support your card, but not optimize it. This. And don't forget that nVidia >>> ATI. If you just want to play anything that's on the market now without bothering about your vc not handling it, grab 8800GT (which should be really cheap by now). If you want your comp to be a bit more expensive but more set-up for the future then I'd advise getting some GTS or something like that (I know that ATI has the fastest card on the market now, but by the time we see DX11 and PS5.0 and the time something will actually require it, this card will most likely end up being some bottom-feeder). Also, take note about 2 more things: - mobo supporting DDR3 not DDR2 - psu of at least 500W | ||
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Trumpet
United States1935 Posts
I really don't think the i5 is worth it for gaming. I definitely disagree with getting an nvidia card right now, 4870 / 5850 (if it goes cheap enough over holidays) seem like a much better deal for the money atm. +1 on getting the 955 instead of 945 as well. I'm more clueless about the psu. I'm planning on getting this one (I think it was suggested in an older pc building thread here). It definitely fits the budget price but you can't be too careful right?  Edit: at least 500W? Looks like I need to do more searching lol | ||
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Chaos
United States772 Posts
On November 21 2009 05:33 Manit0u wrote: And don't forget that nVidia >>> ATI. o_O I would definitely buy from ATI right now...better price for performance at the moment. | ||
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vAltyR
United States581 Posts
On November 21 2009 05:33 Manit0u wrote: And don't forget that nVidia >>> ATI. Not really. ATI's cards are pretty good performance/price. The 4870's going for about $150 now, which is a pretty good deal for a DX10 card. And Nvidia doesn't even have a DX11 card out yet, while ATI's 5000 series is damn good for the price. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On November 21 2009 05:33 Manit0u wrote: This. And don't forget that nVidia >>> ATI. If you just want to play anything that's on the market now without bothering about your vc not handling it, grab 8800GT (which should be really cheap by now). If you want your comp to be a bit more expensive but more set-up for the future then I'd advise getting some GTS or something like that (I know that ATI has the fastest card on the market now, but by the time we see DX11 and PS5.0 and the time something will actually require it, this card will most likely end up being some bottom-feeder). Worst advice ever. The 8800GT sucks ( well it was good like two years ago ) and Nvidia cards are getting raped atm; ATI performance/price ratio is just too good. You must an Nvidia fanboy or a troll. Also +2 for the Phe II x4 955 BE edit: seriously the 8800GT lolololol. It has like half the performance of the 4870. edit2: The only reason to get an Nvidia card is if you want to have 3D vision. ![[image loading]](http://www.generation-3d.com/UserImgs/imgs/Nvidia/Geforce_G/Nvidia_GeForce_Vision_3D_610x444.jpg) | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
pretty much. ignore everything in that post. | ||
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Amarxist
United States371 Posts
In any case, if you're planning on getting a 4870 you need to keep in mind the Power Supply you get meets the power requirements of the Video Card. That is, 2(Pair)x6-PIN PCI-E External Power plugs to feed your 4870. You will need the PSU to be at least 550(i'd get at least 650 to be honest) watts of a good brand(Corsair to name one). For any modern high-end video card or even mid-range card, a sturdy power supply is required with at least 1 6-PIN PCI-E plugs, 2x is preferred if you want to upgrade down the line. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On November 21 2009 07:11 Boblion wrote: Worst advice ever. The 8800GT sucks ( well it was good like two years ago ) and Nvidia cards are getting raped atm; ATI performance/price ratio is just too good. You must an Nvidia fanboy or a troll. Also +2 for the Phe II x4 955 BE edit: seriously the 8800GT lolololol. It has like half the performance of the 4870. edit2: The only reason to get an Nvidia card is if you want to have 3D vision. Well, manitou's advice only holds up if you are using Linux and even that with ATI's new open sourceness it won't be long till they beat NVidia. That NVidia 3D glasses thing is overrated. We have one at work and with that on for any longer than 5 mins will give you a headache + the fact that you need a 100hz monitor to use it. | ||
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
On November 21 2009 12:25 Amarxist wrote: Why are you advising someone get an 8800GT? That's quite an old card. You can get much better for the same price from nVidia or ATi? In any case, if you're planning on getting a 4870 you need to keep in mind the Power Supply you get meets the power requirements of the Video Card. That is, 2(Pair)x6-PIN PCI-E External Power plugs to feed your 4870. You will need the PSU to be at least 550(i'd get at least 650 to be honest) watts of a good brand(Corsair to name one). For any modern high-end video card or even mid-range card, a sturdy power supply is required with at least 1 6-PIN PCI-E plugs, 2x is preferred if you want to upgrade down the line. 8800GT was never that great. 8800GTX was awesome but can you even buy that anymore? | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
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ffswowsucks
Greece2297 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
...  The best cards on the market right now for price are probably the ATi 4870/5770. As with the others, I recommend shelling out the extra bucks for the AMD P2 955, and take heed that the AM3 mobos do not support DDR2 ram. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On November 21 2009 14:46 haduken wrote: That NVidia 3D glasses thing is overrated. We have one at work and with that on for any longer than 5 mins will give you a headache + the fact that you need a 100hz monitor to use it. Really interesting because i have read the contrary on another forum. Thank for the info, maybe i will have the chance someday to test it myself to have my own opinion. Btw yup i forgot to mention the screen ( you need a 120Hz, the Samsung SyncMaster 2233rz or the ViewSonic VX2268wm ). | ||
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