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Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 06:15:35
November 02 2009 02:13 GMT
#1
I made a bet with a friend this weekend on who can gain more weight through working out, with the loser treating the winner out to a dinner at the destination of the winner's choosing.

We all agreed that tomorrow would be the start date and the end date would be the next time we see each other (which would be sometime during winter break or about 1.5 months from now).

Me:
Height - ~5'8"
Weight - ~116 lbs

Opponent:
Height - ~5'7"?
Weight - ~135 lbs

My resources:
Money (I'm assuming the only thing I need to buy is protein powder though)
College gym (plenty of equipment)
Pool (Not sure how this could be useful though)
Bike (I bike every day to and from school, not sure about this either)

I'm pretty inexperienced in working out with weights, with my only experience being in Track season and pre-season. So, I was wondering if there's any tips or suggestions for gaining muscle mass quickly in the time-frame (~1.5 months). I think my friend used to work out quite regularly before so I can use all the help I can get.



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Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 02 2009 02:23 GMT
#2
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=85294
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/

Train hard, 8-12 rep range, 3-4 sets.
Eat like a fucking monster. Look on the forum I linked above for good bulking foods.

It's reaaally easy to gain mass if you just train hard and eat right.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
November 02 2009 02:27 GMT
#3
drink milk
1 gallon every day
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
November 02 2009 02:30 GMT
#4
if you want to gain weight, do heavier weights for lower reps. that gives your muscles more bulk and strength but less endurance.

also, squat and work out th biggest muscles in your body, like your quads and chest. its about weight gain, not so much a sexy body lol.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
November 02 2009 02:32 GMT
#5
Eat a fuck ton. You should be able to find all you need from shallow's links, but remember that unless your body is getting enough nutrients to rebuild your muscles and more then working out isn't going to help you gain weight.
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
November 02 2009 02:33 GMT
#6
On November 02 2009 11:23 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=85294
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/

Train hard, 8-12 rep range, 3-4 sets.
Eat like a fucking monster. Look on the forum I linked above for good bulking foods.

It's reaaally easy to gain mass if you just train hard and eat right.

Shoot, I'm not sure what my TBW is, hahaha
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 02 2009 02:33 GMT
#7
On November 02 2009 11:30 hyst.eric.al wrote:
if you want to gain weight, do heavier weights for lower reps. that gives your muscles more bulk and strength but less endurance.

also, squat and work out th biggest muscles in your body, like your quads and chest. its about weight gain, not so much a sexy body lol.


You don't want to go toooooo low, like in the 1-5 rep range, because a large part of that training works your nervous system and, while you'll still gain mass, you're mostly going to increase your strength. 6-12 is generally accepted, most bodybuilders, who are all about gaining mass, do 10-12 reps from what I've read.

A valid point is raised that I forgot to mention: compound lifts. Don't do fucking bicep curls or calf raises.

Squat, Deadlift, Bench Press, Chin-up/Pull-up, Military Press...these all target multiple muscle groups and promote muuuch quicker mass gain. You can look them up online if you're unsure of proper technique.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
November 02 2009 02:34 GMT
#8
1. Win with steroids
2. Request you be taken to The Signature Room at the 95th in Chicago
3. Yum/Live it up
:3
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
November 02 2009 02:37 GMT
#9
Wow, your pretty thin (no offense). If I was you I'd buy a blender and make protein (ice cream plus milk plus protein powder) milkshakes all day. Coupled with a serious weight lighting regiment, I would surround myself with a ton of bulky foods and just eat frequently and implusively.
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
November 02 2009 02:37 GMT
#10
don't pee/take a dump on the day you weigh yourselves. that slight extra weight might just tip the scales in your favor
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
lesser_good
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada698 Posts
November 02 2009 02:41 GMT
#11
[image loading]


add about this much butter to each portion of food. et voila
pew pew
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 02:42:28
November 02 2009 02:41 GMT
#12
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-gain-weight-for-skinny-guys/ this seems like it might help u out

edit- holy fuck @ the post above me that is disgusting lol :O
aka DragOn[NaS]
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
November 02 2009 02:49 GMT
#13
Tell me how you do it because I am 5'11 and 147 right now, and I have been eating pizza, fat subs, take out chinese, and drinking beer for like 4 days and have lost a pound.
Peace~
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
November 02 2009 03:00 GMT
#14
Oh wow... I'm 5'8''(your height) and I weigh 145.
I feel so phat, here, take some of my fats!!

Just eat alot and move alot, you'll beat him! He's already pretty "saturated" for his height, and you have so much go to
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 02 2009 03:02 GMT
#15
Wait, gaining weight? Thats easy. You guys never specified what you guys will gain. Even if you work out, you can gain fat and fat is easier to gain so... EAT LOTS OF MCDONALDS!

Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
biomedical
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
235 Posts
November 02 2009 03:02 GMT
#16
See my blog if u havnt alredy join the crusade!
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
November 02 2009 03:04 GMT
#17
On November 02 2009 11:33 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 11:30 hyst.eric.al wrote:
if you want to gain weight, do heavier weights for lower reps. that gives your muscles more bulk and strength but less endurance.

also, squat and work out th biggest muscles in your body, like your quads and chest. its about weight gain, not so much a sexy body lol.


You don't want to go toooooo low, like in the 1-5 rep range, because a large part of that training works your nervous system and, while you'll still gain mass, you're mostly going to increase your strength. 6-12 is generally accepted, most bodybuilders, who are all about gaining mass, do 10-12 reps from what I've read.

A valid point is raised that I forgot to mention: compound lifts. Don't do fucking bicep curls or calf raises.

Squat, Deadlift, Bench Press, Chin-up/Pull-up, Military Press...these all target multiple muscle groups and promote muuuch quicker mass gain. You can look them up online if you're unsure of proper technique.
I apologize if what I typed previously was misinterpreted, 1-5 reps is fucking retarded.

I think 6-8reps would still be better for pure weight gain, sine that is the challenge at hand. And definitely do compound lifts; only one I don't recommend is military press. Try a standing military press. It is where you press the free weights straight up, so it is a military press (standing up) that works out the upper back as well.

Goodluck, and post naked pictures of your body!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 03:05:41
November 02 2009 03:05 GMT
#18
Starting Strength + gallon of whole milk a day

That is all you need.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 02 2009 03:12 GMT
#19
On November 02 2009 12:04 hyst.eric.al wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 11:33 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On November 02 2009 11:30 hyst.eric.al wrote:
if you want to gain weight, do heavier weights for lower reps. that gives your muscles more bulk and strength but less endurance.

also, squat and work out th biggest muscles in your body, like your quads and chest. its about weight gain, not so much a sexy body lol.


You don't want to go toooooo low, like in the 1-5 rep range, because a large part of that training works your nervous system and, while you'll still gain mass, you're mostly going to increase your strength. 6-12 is generally accepted, most bodybuilders, who are all about gaining mass, do 10-12 reps from what I've read.

A valid point is raised that I forgot to mention: compound lifts. Don't do fucking bicep curls or calf raises.

Squat, Deadlift, Bench Press, Chin-up/Pull-up, Military Press...these all target multiple muscle groups and promote muuuch quicker mass gain. You can look them up online if you're unsure of proper technique.
I apologize if what I typed previously was misinterpreted, 1-5 reps is fucking retarded.

I think 6-8reps would still be better for pure weight gain, sine that is the challenge at hand. And definitely do compound lifts; only one I don't recommend is military press. Try a standing military press. It is where you press the free weights straight up, so it is a military press (standing up) that works out the upper back as well.

Goodluck, and post naked pictures of your body!


All I ever do are standing military presses, I forgot that the seated variety exists :p

Deefinitely truth in what you say, standing works so many stabilizers and other muscles that the support from being seated doesn't.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 03:43:30
November 02 2009 03:43 GMT
#20
lol you're about my weight, im slightly heavier though ...

working out as well, hopefully my body will then actually absorb food, instead of just letting them transform into piles of crap.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 04:19:32
November 02 2009 04:10 GMT
#21
On November 02 2009 12:02 MuffinDude wrote:
Wait, gaining weight? Thats easy. You guys never specified what you guys will gain. Even if you work out, you can gain fat and fat is easier to gain so... EAT LOTS OF MCDONALDS!


Haha, we specified working out to gain weight since neither of us want to be unhealthily gaining weight.

On November 02 2009 12:04 hyst.eric.al wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2009 11:33 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On November 02 2009 11:30 hyst.eric.al wrote:
if you want to gain weight, do heavier weights for lower reps. that gives your muscles more bulk and strength but less endurance.

also, squat and work out th biggest muscles in your body, like your quads and chest. its about weight gain, not so much a sexy body lol.


You don't want to go toooooo low, like in the 1-5 rep range, because a large part of that training works your nervous system and, while you'll still gain mass, you're mostly going to increase your strength. 6-12 is generally accepted, most bodybuilders, who are all about gaining mass, do 10-12 reps from what I've read.

A valid point is raised that I forgot to mention: compound lifts. Don't do fucking bicep curls or calf raises.

Squat, Deadlift, Bench Press, Chin-up/Pull-up, Military Press...these all target multiple muscle groups and promote muuuch quicker mass gain. You can look them up online if you're unsure of proper technique.

Goodluck, and post naked pictures of your body!

Haha we'll see, we'll see. I'll have to get my hands on my roommate's camera.




Btw, thanks to everyone who posted helpful replies. I definitely have to change my diet and start working out hard.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
November 02 2009 04:34 GMT
#22
1 gallon of milk a day? gg heart
HEY MEYT
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
November 02 2009 05:39 GMT
#23
On November 02 2009 12:05 eshlow wrote:
Starting Strength + gallon of whole milk a day

That is all you need.


Do it. I didn't check my weight while doing this while I was still at university, but when I finally got around to checking my weight, I found that I had gained 20 pounds, probably all/mostly muscle, since I didn't expand my gut size by a factor of 10000. I didn't even manage to consistently finish a gallon/day.

It's probably worth mentioning that spoons of peanut butter might be good to down with the milk, since a gallon of milk a day means drinking upwards of 16 oz of milk at a time (you might just get sick of it.)

Douse your meats in a bit of olive oil. White rice is delicious. Eat 16 oz of oatmeal with like 10000 eggs for breakfast.

With the gallon of milk a day, you may not even need to buy the protein powder, but if you choose to do so, you probably only need enough for pre/post workout shake, but nothing more.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
November 02 2009 06:38 GMT
#24
anything higher than 1 percent milk in large doses destroys my insides.

i have difficulty drinking half a gallon of skim milk on workout days -- so i'm just giving up on that.
JadeFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1225 Posts
November 02 2009 07:24 GMT
#25
I have yet to meet any other male that can beat my 17.0 BMI (6 ft, 125 lbs).
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
November 02 2009 07:58 GMT
#26
On November 02 2009 15:38 eMbrace wrote:
anything higher than 1 percent milk in large doses destroys my insides.

i have difficulty drinking half a gallon of skim milk on workout days -- so i'm just giving up on that.


Lactase is cheap. I have some trouble drinking over a half-gallon a day even with mass lactase-supplementation, just because it's JUST A LOT OF MILK, but the lactose digestion will not be an issue at all if you supplement with this (no more gas/bloating/death.)
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
November 02 2009 14:29 GMT
#27
weight training+lots of food (especially protein)=massive weight gains.

i've been trying to gain muscle and i hit 160 pounds recently (i'm 5'9). i'm actually going to try and become more lean now.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
November 02 2009 15:28 GMT
#28
On November 02 2009 16:24 JadeFist wrote:
I have yet to meet any other male that can beat my 17.0 BMI (6 ft, 125 lbs).


Damn. I'm 6 ft and 135 and I'm fucking skinny as hell. I used to be around 125 though, before I joined the swim team in high school.
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
November 02 2009 17:29 GMT
#29
Oh, and also, get your metabolism roaring. Try to eat every 1.5 hours or 3 hours a day, and each meal needs protein. You want lunch to be your heaviest meal, and try not to eat carbs or dairy after 1pm.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
November 02 2009 18:26 GMT
#30
On November 03 2009 02:29 hyst.eric.al wrote:
Oh, and also, get your metabolism roaring. Try to eat every 1.5 hours or 3 hours a day, and each meal needs protein. You want lunch to be your heaviest meal, and try not to eat carbs or dairy after 1pm.

What's the reason for no carbs/dairy after 1 PM?
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
November 02 2009 22:47 GMT
#31
You don't want to get jiggly, now do you?

You'll be super-sexy with rippling muscles and the body will use the protein better. I think.
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-02 23:36:16
November 02 2009 23:35 GMT
#32
On November 03 2009 03:26 BanZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2009 02:29 hyst.eric.al wrote:
Oh, and also, get your metabolism roaring. Try to eat every 1.5 hours or 3 hours a day, and each meal needs protein. You want lunch to be your heaviest meal, and try not to eat carbs or dairy after 1pm.

What's the reason for no carbs/dairy after 1 PM?


there is no reason, i've never even heard that claim before.

if your destroying yourself in the gym everyday, you can't just stock up on stuff in the morning for that.

i eat food all the way until 3 in the morning before I go to bed. no problems here.
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
November 02 2009 23:55 GMT
#33
On November 03 2009 07:47 hyst.eric.al wrote:I think.

why
If you have to ask, you don't know.
doktorLucifer
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States855 Posts
November 03 2009 06:05 GMT
#34
On November 03 2009 02:29 hyst.eric.al wrote:
Oh, and also, get your metabolism roaring. Try to eat every 1.5 hours or 3 hours a day, and each meal needs protein. You want lunch to be your heaviest meal, and try not to eat carbs or dairy after 1pm.


This is very specific and individualized advice. This type of thing probably only applies to specific people.

There's no reason why carbs at a certain time would be better or worse than carbs at another time.

Same goes for dairy. Why at some times but not others? If you're an ectomorph who has to work verrry hard to gain a lot of weight, whole milk throughout the day isn't going to make you fat. Getting fat is a gradual process, just like getting lean/muscular. If you're getting fat, adjust your diet.

Dairy products (like whole milk) contain both carbs and fat. Some people prefer not to have both in the same meal, but some people are so underweight/have such high metabolisms, that it doesn't matter for the first few months (or even years) of training. I'm still chugging this stuff. o_O
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