So.. today Wonder Girls came to the Justice store at Palisades Center, and I lived literally 5 minutes away, I decided to go!
I went right after school, and arrived at about 3:00 PM. I was one of the first people on the line, and waited patiently until 4:00PM.
Oh hai, Wonder Girls.. WTF NO SUNYE!
Of course, being in the front of the line, I had to let friends cut. Before we knew it, the line had already gotten really long!
So after a few minutes, I got in for my signatures but the 7 foot tall man at the entrance told me that I could only get one signature!
I LOVE YOU
I was going to bring in underwear to get signed... but I decided that it was a bad idea, and just got my paper signed. I asked each member if I could take a picture, and I did except Sohee because she completely ignored me and even wrote my name like crap.
Anyway, being unsatisfied with only one signature, I cut to the front of the line again, because my friend was there, and got another on their Single CD "Nobody". It's in English and it's a lot worse than the Korean version (not to mention they're not that great at singing originally anyway) but they sold them for $1 each so I decided to buy it.
Hello to you too!
Even though they were supposed to stay until 6:00PM, they stopped letting people in at 5:00PM because there weren't as many people as they expected, and as they were leaving, fanboys were screaming their hearts out, and amidst all the crazy yelling, you could make out the faint "소녀시대 (SNSD) 짱!"
Anyway, they're coming to Garden State Plaza tomorrow again, and I might just go there to meet them again !
If you live near GSP, you should definitely go! It's at Justice from 4:00PM!
Yay!
P.S. Sorry for the apparent lack of Yubin in the pictures . She got a little chubby lately and the only picture I have of her currently she has a double chin showing.
Also, sorry about the poor quality of the pictures, The ones on the camera I can't get until few days later so I used the ones on the phone!
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
SNSD is better imo. What does that have to do with anything
sorry, it's distasteful of me to charge into your blog and to make fun of you. I just truly don't understand the appeal of kpop. It's completely mind-baffling.
When i was in junior high school it was annoying enough to see all the popular girls running around screaming about the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls, but at least they were stupid blonde ditzes, so it didn't really get to me.
To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
Yay lets make fun of this guy for liking hot women.
i actually was making fun of his music tastes.
i'm guess you didn't score 30/30 no that mensa test.
lol
Wonder Girls are really bad at singing, I won't lie.
Can't blame me for liking k-pop especially since I'm Korean. I've lived there for most of my life too. It really doesn't bother me that you don't believe I got 30 on that test, but it bothers me that you'd make fun of k-pop
On October 15 2009 08:55 Mora wrote: To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
SNSD is better imo. What does that have to do with anything
sorry, it's distasteful of me to charge into your blog and to make fun of you. I just truly don't understand the appeal of kpop. It's completely mind-baffling.
When i was in junior high school it was annoying enough to see all the popular girls running around screaming about the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls, but at least they were stupid blonde ditzes, so it didn't really get to me.
To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
It's in English and it's a lot worse than the Korean version (not to mention they're not that great at singing originally anyway)
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
Yay lets make fun of this guy for liking hot women.
i actually was making fun of his music tastes.
i'm guess you didn't score 30/30 no that mensa test.
lol
Wonder Girls are really bad at singing, I won't lie.
Can't blame me for liking k-pop especially since I'm Korean. I've lived there for most of my life too. It really doesn't bother me that you don't believe I got 30 on that test, but it bothers me that you'd make fun of k-pop
ironically i didn't particularly doubt you getting 30 on the IQ test.
I just don't understand kpop.
sincerely, i apologize for barging in here and ruining your blog-thread. if you'd like me to edit/delete my posts i will gladly do so.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
Yay lets make fun of this guy for liking hot women.
i actually was making fun of his music tastes.
i'm guess you didn't score 30/30 no that mensa test.
lol
Wonder Girls are really bad at singing, I won't lie.
Can't blame me for liking k-pop especially since I'm Korean. I've lived there for most of my life too. It really doesn't bother me that you don't believe I got 30 on that test, but it bothers me that you'd make fun of k-pop
ironically i didn't particularly doubt you getting 30 on the IQ test.
I just don't understand kpop.
sincerely, i apologize for barging in here and ruining your blog-thread. if you'd like me to edit/delete my posts i will gladly do so.
It's just discussion, no need to get so serious (although I get serious about K-pop). Maybe I just like it because I've been listening to it for almost all of my life
On October 15 2009 08:58 Amnesia wrote: Palisades....as in PPP in Nyack? Haha, I might be able to go to GSP tomorrow because my school is near there. Sick!
There's nothing wrong with listening to kpop. There's plenty of smart people who love kpop. I don't know what music you like Mora, but I could also think whatever you like is shallow and empty. Everyone's taste is different.
On October 15 2009 09:06 Waffles wrote: lol what does the kind of music you listen have to do with your intelligence?!?!(soulja boy is an exception)
Ewh Soulja boy. I'm not getting involved in this Kpop debate because (aside from being a Kpop fan myself.) I think musical preference is completely up to the individual and implying that enjoying a certain genre means you're unintelligent is bollocks of the highest order. (Even when applied to something as simplistic and repetative as hard-house music - that is the correct genre, right?)
I'm not a big WG fan, but it's nice you got to go to their fan signing
On October 15 2009 09:06 Waffles wrote: lol what does the kind of music you listen have to do with your intelligence?!?!(soulja boy is an exception)
Because honestly the music is very simple. It may sound good but that doesn't change the fact that usually you see 'geniuses' listening to more complex music.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
Yay lets make fun of this guy for liking hot women.
i actually was making fun of his music tastes.
i'm guess you didn't score 30/30 no that mensa test.
lol
Wonder Girls are really bad at singing, I won't lie.
Can't blame me for liking k-pop especially since I'm Korean. I've lived there for most of my life too. It really doesn't bother me that you don't believe I got 30 on that test, but it bothers me that you'd make fun of k-pop
ironically i didn't particularly doubt you getting 30 on the IQ test.
I just don't understand kpop.
sincerely, i apologize for barging in here and ruining your blog-thread. if you'd like me to edit/delete my posts i will gladly do so.
Why do you keep apologizing and then continue to do what you just apologized for? I find that intriguing.
Wow, I really want to go see my favorite Korean singers live, but I'm in Canada.
...Isn't Justice a preteen girl's clothing store? It is in the USA... I think that tells you something about the music you're listening to <.< That's all I'm saying.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
SNSD is better imo. What does that have to do with anything
sorry, it's distasteful of me to charge into your blog and to make fun of you. I just truly don't understand the appeal of kpop. It's completely mind-baffling.
When i was in junior high school it was annoying enough to see all the popular girls running around screaming about the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls, but at least they were stupid blonde ditzes, so it didn't really get to me.
To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Wow. Seriously? I wasn't going to post anything until what you said in your last sentence.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Completely off-topic: Talk about buying into stereotypes. You know, I used (and still do, to some extent) to get the exact treatment that he is getting right now from you. People would always be baffled that I (salutorian at my high school and currently at a Top 10 university) enjoyed RnB or hip-hop and would be outright surprised that I don't listen to much classical music at all. And so I ask, well, why the hell not?
People are so intent these days on categorizing "intellectual" or "intelligent" people that they lose track of the fact that MANY people are in fact - hold your breath on this one - normal!. Who would've thought that the so-called smart people have their own preferences in music, as opposed to what people stereotype their preferences to be! They must not be who they say they are if they don't listen to what they're supposed to be. God forbid, if a supposed "intelligent individual" listens to music by the Spice Girls they should absolutely stop it right at this moment: they should KNOW better than to listen to such trash music!
On-topic: For one reason or another, it doesn't particularly seem like the Wonder Girls have been having too much fun on their North American tour, and I'm not sure their reception has been as good as they perhaps thought it would have been. It's pretty cool that you got to meet them in person though.
On October 15 2009 09:10 T.O.P. wrote: There's nothing wrong with listening to kpop. There's plenty of smart people who love kpop. I don't know what music you like Mora, but I could also think whatever you like is shallow and empty. Everyone's taste is different.
You're absolutely right. Everyone's taste is different.
And while i can't say i remotely understand the appeal of kpop (perhaps one of you could enlighten me?), i certainly shouldn't begrudge your listening to it.
I listen to a broad range of artists for a myriad of reasons:
Radiohead: for instrumentals, vocals, lyrics, and general musicality Coldplay: vocals, lyrics, musicality Madonna: to dance to Whitney Houston: because i love her voice Trance/House Music: cause it's the music to dance to Beatles: musicality Souljah Boy: cause he makes me laugh
I don't need to defend what i listen to anymore than you do. Feel free to tear it apart, i guess it's only fair.
First, grats l10f for getting to see WG in person - and getting a few autographs! Seeing the celebrities IRL is a whole new fresh experience (I've seen a few IRL - and a member of SujuM is a high school friend of mine) and probably a pleasant one overall.
Being an SNSD fan, I am going to say outright that SNSD is better. xD but it doesn't mean if WG somehow shows up where I live, I'm not going to see them - being a fan of one group doesn't make you anti- for all other groups.
I think the reason JYP sent WG overseas is because he saw that with the massive uprise of more talented girl groups in the kpop scene (it was already getting tough for WG to compete against both SNSD and Kara, then now there's 2NE1, 4minute, Afterschool, Tiara, f(x), etc.). Not going to lie, and JYP probably knows it himself, WG is bottom 2 or 3 if a group was judged solely on live singing. Smart business move to get them out of Korea and market them somewhere else, and most of the news so far seems to indicate that WG had moderate success here - I'm happy for them.
For tastes in music - it's whatever you want! There are studies done that say listening to Mozart helps you study better, classical is good, blablabla, but then so what? I'd argue that listening to the music you like is much better for your /whatever purposes/ than any other generic "genius" music (i.e. fugues by Bach, which are structurally "perfect" with some exceptions <- arrr don't pick me on this, I haven't been analyzing music for years). I mean, not to be boastful or anything, but I consider myself a pretty intelligent human being (also happen to have an ARCT for piano performance - it's a music conservatory graduate degree) and I'm a huge fan of Asian pop (K/J/C) and also a huge Muse fan (yay Muse! their new album was sort of disappointing though).
On October 15 2009 09:06 Waffles wrote: lol what does the kind of music you listen have to do with your intelligence?!?!(soulja boy is an exception)
Because honestly the music is very simple. It may sound good but that doesn't change the fact that usually you see 'geniuses' listening to more complex music.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
SNSD is better imo. What does that have to do with anything
sorry, it's distasteful of me to charge into your blog and to make fun of you. I just truly don't understand the appeal of kpop. It's completely mind-baffling.
When i was in junior high school it was annoying enough to see all the popular girls running around screaming about the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls, but at least they were stupid blonde ditzes, so it didn't really get to me.
To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Wow. Seriously? I wasn't going to post anything until what you said in your last sentence.
Completely off-topic: Talk about buying into stereotypes. You know, I used (and still do, to some extent) to get the exact treatment that he is getting right now from you. People would always be baffled that I (salutorian at my high school and currently at a Top 10 university) enjoyed RnB or hip-hop and would be outright surprised that I don't listen to much classical music at all. And so I ask, well, why the hell not?
People are so intent these days on categorizing "intellectual" or "intelligent" people that they lose track of the fact that MANY people are in fact - hold your breath on this one - normal!. Who would've thought that the so-called smart people have their own preferences in music, as opposed to what people stereotype their preferences to be! They must not be who they say they are if they don't listen to what they're supposed to be. God forbid, if a supposed "intelligent individual" listens to music by the Spice Girls they should absolutely stop it right at this moment: they should KNOW better than to listen to such trash music!
sorry to get you so riled up.
But i guess to be honest, i think you should listen to classical music. There's incredible beauty and depth found in classical music, and while the taste may be an acquired one, i think it's worth acquiring. I'm not well-versed in classical music, and i'm certainly not trying to hold you up to 'unfair stereotypes' due your intelligence, hell, i haven't even graduated from high-school, so i'm certainly not an intellectual, nor am i qualified to give voice on such matters. But there is value in classical music, just as i think there is similar value found in RnB, hip-hop, and rap music.
I was not trying to create a dichotomy between classical music and everything else, but more trying to (albeit not hard enough, and completely failing to) express that i don't see what the attraction is in kpop. I was presumptuous in my implying that there was no value to be found, when i should have instead asked a fan to explain it to me. I did not appreciate classical music until a few of my friends introduced me to their favourite pieces, and why they were their favourites. The same can be said for my favourite band, Radiohead, who i absolutely despised until i was also encouraged to explore their music further. The same can be said for The Beatles, Pink Floyd, rap, and folk music, among others.
I like all kinds of music except for mainstream country (ie: i love folk music, but hate country), kpop, and teen-pop, pretty much. I just don't understand the appeal of those genres.
On October 15 2009 09:58 OpticalShot wrote: Oh yay kpop related blog!
First, grats l10f for getting to see WG in person - and getting a few autographs! Seeing the celebrities IRL is a whole new fresh experience (I've seen a few IRL - and a member of SujuM is a high school friend of mine) and probably a pleasant one overall.
Being an SNSD fan, I am going to say outright that SNSD is better. xD but it doesn't mean if WG somehow shows up where I live, I'm not going to see them - being a fan of one group doesn't make you anti- for all other groups.
I think the reason JYP sent WG overseas is because he saw that with the massive uprise of more talented girl groups in the kpop scene (it was already getting tough for WG to compete against both SNSD and Kara, then now there's 2NE1, 4minute, Afterschool, Tiara, f(x), etc.). Not going to lie, and JYP probably knows it himself, WG is bottom 2 or 3 if a group was judged solely on live singing. Smart business move to get them out of Korea and market them somewhere else, and most of the news so far seems to indicate that WG had moderate success here - I'm happy for them.
For tastes in music - it's whatever you want! There are studies done that say listening to Mozart helps you study better, classical is good, blablabla, but then so what? I'd argue that listening to the music you like is much better for your /whatever purposes/ than any other generic "genius" music (i.e. fugues by Bach, which are structurally "perfect" with some exceptions <- arrr don't pick me on this, I haven't been analyzing music for years). I mean, not to be boastful or anything, but I consider myself a pretty intelligent human being (also happen to have an ARCT for piano performance - it's a music conservatory graduate degree) and I'm a huge fan of Asian pop (K/J/C) and also a huge Muse fan (yay Muse! their new album was sort of disappointing though).
If you're not well versed in classical music yourself, then you have no right to tell people to listen to Mozart, and the very idea that you think more "intelligent" people listen to more complex music is laughably ignorant. The stuff you have listed yourself are things that the musical zeitgeist have absolutely no interest for when they look for serious music. I mean, you're being some kind of self-righteous snob when your musical tastes are stuff that true musical snobs would dismiss.
Musical taste and intelligence do not go hand in hand. Musical taste is subjective.
They really sold their single for $1? I'm sure they could have charged at least a little bit more and still made a profit. I really hope that was a promotional thing rather than a necessity. Sounded like you had a good time.
On October 15 2009 10:13 beefhamburger wrote: They really sold their single for $1? I'm sure they could have charged at least a little bit more and still made a profit. I really hope that was a promotional thing rather than a necessity. Sounded like you had a good time.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
SNSD is better imo. What does that have to do with anything
sorry, it's distasteful of me to charge into your blog and to make fun of you. I just truly don't understand the appeal of kpop. It's completely mind-baffling.
When i was in junior high school it was annoying enough to see all the popular girls running around screaming about the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls, but at least they were stupid blonde ditzes, so it didn't really get to me.
To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Wow. Seriously? I wasn't going to post anything until what you said in your last sentence.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Completely off-topic: Talk about buying into stereotypes. You know, I used (and still do, to some extent) to get the exact treatment that he is getting right now from you. People would always be baffled that I (salutorian at my high school and currently at a Top 10 university) enjoyed RnB or hip-hop and would be outright surprised that I don't listen to much classical music at all. And so I ask, well, why the hell not?
People are so intent these days on categorizing "intellectual" or "intelligent" people that they lose track of the fact that MANY people are in fact - hold your breath on this one - normal!. Who would've thought that the so-called smart people have their own preferences in music, as opposed to what people stereotype their preferences to be! They must not be who they say they are if they don't listen to what they're supposed to be. God forbid, if a supposed "intelligent individual" listens to music by the Spice Girls they should absolutely stop it right at this moment: they should KNOW better than to listen to such trash music!
sorry to get you so riled up.
But i guess to be honest, i think you should listen to classical music. There's incredible beauty and depth found in classical music, and while the taste may be an acquired one, i think it's worth acquiring. I'm not well-versed in classical music, and i'm certainly not trying to hold you up to 'unfair stereotypes' due your intelligence, hell, i haven't even graduated from high-school, so i'm certainly not an intellectual, nor am i qualified to give voice on such matters. But there is value in classical music, just as i think there is similar value found in RnB, hip-hop, and rap music.
I was not trying to create a dichotomy between classical music and everything else, but more trying to (albeit not hard enough, and completely failing to) express that i don't see what the attraction is in kpop. I was presumptuous in my implying that there was no value to be found, when i should have instead asked a fan to explain it to me. I did not appreciate classical music until a few of my friends introduced me to their favourite pieces, and why they were their favourites. The same can be said for my favourite band, Radiohead, who i absolutely despised until i was also encouraged to explore their music further. The same can be said for The Beatles, Pink Floyd, rap, and folk music, among others.
I like all kinds of music except for mainstream country (ie: i love folk music, but hate country), kpop, and teen-pop, pretty much. I just don't understand the appeal of those genres.
Enlighten me.
Why should we have to 'enlighten' you? Musical preference is personal and often inexplicable to those to whom it doesn't belong. I happen to be a long-time (five years plus.) fan of korean music. I listen to everything from indies acoustic to hip-hop because I enjoy the aural aesthetics of the Korean language and living in Korea it's become my 'domestic' musical nationality.
My favorite classical song happens to be Auf Dem Vasser Zu Singen by Schubert. The genres of Kpop and Classical are not mutually exclusive in the slightest. As people have already mentioned musicial taste is subjective and the property of the individual. If you don't enjoy pop music as a genre then there's not much point in us attempting to induct you into the Korean pop music scene, is there? If you are curious to listen to current releases (and even some older tracks.) then just visit the Kpop Discussion thread in the General forum.
(Damn, I said I wouldn't get involved, but I'm really very, very bored right now.)
On October 15 2009 09:59 koreasilver wrote: lol at some people being musical snobs in this thread when their musical tastes don't go beyond the very tip of music as a whole.
In example: Mora.
I understand if you'd like to retaliate because i was not being very civil earlier in this thread, but could you elaborate on this?
I like every genre of music i've heard, with the exception of pop and mainstream country. You could argue that the rest of musical genres combined are only the 'tip' of music, while country and kpop provide the rest of it's depth, but i'm going to have to call bullshit.
I like death metal, rock, jazz, blues, folk, rap, r&b, hip hop, alternative, opera, classical, britpop, celtic, giddha and banghra, house, trance, techno, electronica, and i look forward to exploring the thousands of other genres the world has to offer.
i have no desire to belong to a group of music/classical music snobs. Nor have i ever voiced having belonged to such. This doesn't change the fact that i [currently] don't like kpop, nor do i understand the appeal of those who do.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
SNSD is better imo. What does that have to do with anything
sorry, it's distasteful of me to charge into your blog and to make fun of you. I just truly don't understand the appeal of kpop. It's completely mind-baffling.
When i was in junior high school it was annoying enough to see all the popular girls running around screaming about the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls, but at least they were stupid blonde ditzes, so it didn't really get to me.
To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Wow. Seriously? I wasn't going to post anything until what you said in your last sentence.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Completely off-topic: Talk about buying into stereotypes. You know, I used (and still do, to some extent) to get the exact treatment that he is getting right now from you. People would always be baffled that I (salutorian at my high school and currently at a Top 10 university) enjoyed RnB or hip-hop and would be outright surprised that I don't listen to much classical music at all. And so I ask, well, why the hell not?
People are so intent these days on categorizing "intellectual" or "intelligent" people that they lose track of the fact that MANY people are in fact - hold your breath on this one - normal!. Who would've thought that the so-called smart people have their own preferences in music, as opposed to what people stereotype their preferences to be! They must not be who they say they are if they don't listen to what they're supposed to be. God forbid, if a supposed "intelligent individual" listens to music by the Spice Girls they should absolutely stop it right at this moment: they should KNOW better than to listen to such trash music!
sorry to get you so riled up.
But i guess to be honest, i think you should listen to classical music. There's incredible beauty and depth found in classical music, and while the taste may be an acquired one, i think it's worth acquiring. I'm not well-versed in classical music, and i'm certainly not trying to hold you up to 'unfair stereotypes' due your intelligence, hell, i haven't even graduated from high-school, so i'm certainly not an intellectual, nor am i qualified to give voice on such matters. But there is value in classical music, just as i think there is similar value found in RnB, hip-hop, and rap music.
I was not trying to create a dichotomy between classical music and everything else, but more trying to (albeit not hard enough, and completely failing to) express that i don't see what the attraction is in kpop. I was presumptuous in my implying that there was no value to be found, when i should have instead asked a fan to explain it to me. I did not appreciate classical music until a few of my friends introduced me to their favourite pieces, and why they were their favourites. The same can be said for my favourite band, Radiohead, who i absolutely despised until i was also encouraged to explore their music further. The same can be said for The Beatles, Pink Floyd, rap, and folk music, among others.
I like all kinds of music except for mainstream country (ie: i love folk music, but hate country), kpop, and teen-pop, pretty much. I just don't understand the appeal of those genres.
Enlighten me.
Why should we have to 'enlighten' you?
You don't have to enlighten me. It's up to you. If you'd like to share your joy of kpop music with someone who is largely open to all styles of music but has thus-far been unable to enjoy kpop, then please do so!
If you don't find me worth your time, by all means, don't waste it.
Rofl, I wasn't saying that the genres that you don't listen to provide the rest of the depth. I was saying that the shit you have listed are seriously only the tip of music in general regardless of genre. It's obvious that you yourself are not well versed in music just from reading your posts, and that's why I find it absolutely hilarious that you have the nerve to belittle the music taste of others.
Even if someone is extremely well versed in music, they still have no reason to belittle the taste of others. The arts are subjective, and everyone has different preferences. Besides, most people don't listen to music, they just hear it. These people don't truly have a deep interest in music, and it's ridiculous to derail them for it. That's like derailing a casual gamer for not knowing how to wavedash in SSBM. Except here, it's more like you derailing a casual US East gamer for not playing on ICCUP when you're only a D player.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
SNSD is better imo. What does that have to do with anything
sorry, it's distasteful of me to charge into your blog and to make fun of you. I just truly don't understand the appeal of kpop. It's completely mind-baffling.
When i was in junior high school it was annoying enough to see all the popular girls running around screaming about the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls, but at least they were stupid blonde ditzes, so it didn't really get to me.
To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Wow. Seriously? I wasn't going to post anything until what you said in your last sentence.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Completely off-topic: Talk about buying into stereotypes. You know, I used (and still do, to some extent) to get the exact treatment that he is getting right now from you. People would always be baffled that I (salutorian at my high school and currently at a Top 10 university) enjoyed RnB or hip-hop and would be outright surprised that I don't listen to much classical music at all. And so I ask, well, why the hell not?
People are so intent these days on categorizing "intellectual" or "intelligent" people that they lose track of the fact that MANY people are in fact - hold your breath on this one - normal!. Who would've thought that the so-called smart people have their own preferences in music, as opposed to what people stereotype their preferences to be! They must not be who they say they are if they don't listen to what they're supposed to be. God forbid, if a supposed "intelligent individual" listens to music by the Spice Girls they should absolutely stop it right at this moment: they should KNOW better than to listen to such trash music!
sorry to get you so riled up.
But i guess to be honest, i think you should listen to classical music. There's incredible beauty and depth found in classical music, and while the taste may be an acquired one, i think it's worth acquiring. I'm not well-versed in classical music, and i'm certainly not trying to hold you up to 'unfair stereotypes' due your intelligence, hell, i haven't even graduated from high-school, so i'm certainly not an intellectual, nor am i qualified to give voice on such matters. But there is value in classical music, just as i think there is similar value found in RnB, hip-hop, and rap music.
I was not trying to create a dichotomy between classical music and everything else, but more trying to (albeit not hard enough, and completely failing to) express that i don't see what the attraction is in kpop. I was presumptuous in my implying that there was no value to be found, when i should have instead asked a fan to explain it to me. I did not appreciate classical music until a few of my friends introduced me to their favourite pieces, and why they were their favourites. The same can be said for my favourite band, Radiohead, who i absolutely despised until i was also encouraged to explore their music further. The same can be said for The Beatles, Pink Floyd, rap, and folk music, among others.
I like all kinds of music except for mainstream country (ie: i love folk music, but hate country), kpop, and teen-pop, pretty much. I just don't understand the appeal of those genres.
Enlighten me.
Why should we have to 'enlighten' you?
You don't have to enlighten me. It's up to you. If you'd like to share your joy of kpop music with someone who is largely open to all styles of music but has thus-far been unable to enjoy kpop, then please do so!
If you don't find me worth your time, by all means, don't waste it.
I'm not *that* bored. I'm also a great advocate of people going and doing the research themselves instead of having it spoon-fed to them. A list of artists I would recommend for experiencing the most diverse amount of Korean music include;
Urban Humming Stereo. Yozoh. W&Whale. Crying Nut. No Brain. The Trax. Epik high. Lee Ssang. SG Wannabe. Super Junior. Big Bang. Dong Bang Shin Ki. SHINee (mainly for Jonghyun's vocal talents.) SS501. SNSD. K Will. Outsider. Taegoon. Wheesung. Shinhwa. H.O.T. G.O.D. Seo Taji. 2PM/2AM/One Day. Kangta (and Vaness Wu if you want a laugh.) Anything indies including bands which only play festivals and don't have a large domestic commercial presence. These are harder to source though. Traditional Korean folk/court music. Trot. (For the record Trot is *not* one of my preferences. I do find it quite funny though.)
These are only my preferences, but they're a good starting point. (LOL After saying I wouldn't enlighten you I'm doing it anyway. Maybe I am that bored....)
First, grats l10f for getting to see WG in person - and getting a few autographs! Seeing the celebrities IRL is a whole new fresh experience (I've seen a few IRL - and a member of SujuM is a high school friend of mine) and probably a pleasant one overall.
Being an SNSD fan, I am going to say outright that SNSD is better. xD but it doesn't mean if WG somehow shows up where I live, I'm not going to see them - being a fan of one group doesn't make you anti- for all other groups.
I think the reason JYP sent WG overseas is because he saw that with the massive uprise of more talented girl groups in the kpop scene (it was already getting tough for WG to compete against both SNSD and Kara, then now there's 2NE1, 4minute, Afterschool, Tiara, f(x), etc.). Not going to lie, and JYP probably knows it himself, WG is bottom 2 or 3 if a group was judged solely on live singing. Smart business move to get them out of Korea and market them somewhere else, and most of the news so far seems to indicate that WG had moderate success here - I'm happy for them.
For tastes in music - it's whatever you want! There are studies done that say listening to Mozart helps you study better, classical is good, blablabla, but then so what? I'd argue that listening to the music you like is much better for your /whatever purposes/ than any other generic "genius" music (i.e. fugues by Bach, which are structurally "perfect" with some exceptions <- arrr don't pick me on this, I haven't been analyzing music for years). I mean, not to be boastful or anything, but I consider myself a pretty intelligent human being (also happen to have an ARCT for piano performance - it's a music conservatory graduate degree) and I'm a huge fan of Asian pop (K/J/C) and also a huge Muse fan (yay Muse! their new album was sort of disappointing though).
Mora really doesn't deserve all the hate that he's been getting. He's already apologized for being brusque with his opinion about kpop, but hey, that's what taste in music is - an opinion. I myself hate kpop for the same reasons Mora does, that I simply don't like the cheap lyrics and bad singing but hey, that's my opinion.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
SNSD is better imo. What does that have to do with anything
sorry, it's distasteful of me to charge into your blog and to make fun of you. I just truly don't understand the appeal of kpop. It's completely mind-baffling.
When i was in junior high school it was annoying enough to see all the popular girls running around screaming about the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls, but at least they were stupid blonde ditzes, so it didn't really get to me.
To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Wow. Seriously? I wasn't going to post anything until what you said in your last sentence.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Completely off-topic: Talk about buying into stereotypes. You know, I used (and still do, to some extent) to get the exact treatment that he is getting right now from you. People would always be baffled that I (salutorian at my high school and currently at a Top 10 university) enjoyed RnB or hip-hop and would be outright surprised that I don't listen to much classical music at all. And so I ask, well, why the hell not?
People are so intent these days on categorizing "intellectual" or "intelligent" people that they lose track of the fact that MANY people are in fact - hold your breath on this one - normal!. Who would've thought that the so-called smart people have their own preferences in music, as opposed to what people stereotype their preferences to be! They must not be who they say they are if they don't listen to what they're supposed to be. God forbid, if a supposed "intelligent individual" listens to music by the Spice Girls they should absolutely stop it right at this moment: they should KNOW better than to listen to such trash music!
sorry to get you so riled up.
But i guess to be honest, i think you should listen to classical music. There's incredible beauty and depth found in classical music, and while the taste may be an acquired one, i think it's worth acquiring. I'm not well-versed in classical music, and i'm certainly not trying to hold you up to 'unfair stereotypes' due your intelligence, hell, i haven't even graduated from high-school, so i'm certainly not an intellectual, nor am i qualified to give voice on such matters. But there is value in classical music, just as i think there is similar value found in RnB, hip-hop, and rap music.
I was not trying to create a dichotomy between classical music and everything else, but more trying to (albeit not hard enough, and completely failing to) express that i don't see what the attraction is in kpop. I was presumptuous in my implying that there was no value to be found, when i should have instead asked a fan to explain it to me. I did not appreciate classical music until a few of my friends introduced me to their favourite pieces, and why they were their favourites. The same can be said for my favourite band, Radiohead, who i absolutely despised until i was also encouraged to explore their music further. The same can be said for The Beatles, Pink Floyd, rap, and folk music, among others.
I like all kinds of music except for mainstream country (ie: i love folk music, but hate country), kpop, and teen-pop, pretty much. I just don't understand the appeal of those genres.
Enlighten me.
Why should we have to 'enlighten' you?
You don't have to enlighten me. It's up to you. If you'd like to share your joy of kpop music with someone who is largely open to all styles of music but has thus-far been unable to enjoy kpop, then please do so!
If you don't find me worth your time, by all means, don't waste it.
I'm not *that* bored. I'm also a great advocate of people going and doing the research themselves instead of having it spoon-fed to them. A list of artists I would recommend for experiencing the most diverse amount of Korean music include;
Urban Humming Stereo. Yozoh. W&Whale. Crying Nut. No Brain. The Trax. Epik high. Lee Ssang. SG Wannabe. Super Junior. Big Bang. Dong Bang Shin Ki. SHINee (mainly for Jonghyun's vocal talents.) SS501. SNSD. K Will. Outsider. Taegoon. Wheesung. Shinhwa. H.O.T. G.O.D. Seo Taji. 2PM/2AM/One Day. Kangta (and Vaness Wu if you want a laugh.) Anything indies including bands which only play festivals and don't have a large domestic commercial presence. These are harder to source though. Traditional Korean folk/court music. Trot. (For the record Trot is *not* one of my preferences. I do find it quite funny though.)
These are only my preferences, but they're a good starting point. (LOL After saying I wouldn't enlighten you I'm doing it anyway. Maybe I am that bored....)
I approve. Not that it means anything but I'm 육촌 with DBSK's Yunho! (Grandma's sibling's grandson)
Although you're really not related past 사촌
On October 15 2009 10:31 koreasilver wrote: Outsider's first album was so good.
Then his second album was absolutely wretched. ):
I memorized Outsider - Loner by heart. Will be singing it for TL idol if I have time in the next couple of days!
On October 15 2009 10:32 ilovezil wrote: Mora really doesn't deserve all the hate that he's been getting. He's already apologized for being brusque with his opinion about kpop, but hey, that's what taste in music is - an opinion. I myself hate kpop for the same reasons Mora does, that I simply don't like the cheap lyrics and bad singing but hey, that's my opinion.
Take that stick out of your ass, folks.
Oh come on, if you tell people to listen to classical when you yourself don't know classical much, then derail their musical taste while spewing some absolute nonsense about intelligence and music taste you deserve to get a swift kick. I really don't like most Korean music either, but you don't see me derailing every kpop thread while telling people to listen to serialism or some shit like that.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
SNSD is better imo. What does that have to do with anything
sorry, it's distasteful of me to charge into your blog and to make fun of you. I just truly don't understand the appeal of kpop. It's completely mind-baffling.
When i was in junior high school it was annoying enough to see all the popular girls running around screaming about the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls, but at least they were stupid blonde ditzes, so it didn't really get to me.
To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Wow. Seriously? I wasn't going to post anything until what you said in your last sentence.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Completely off-topic: Talk about buying into stereotypes. You know, I used (and still do, to some extent) to get the exact treatment that he is getting right now from you. People would always be baffled that I (salutorian at my high school and currently at a Top 10 university) enjoyed RnB or hip-hop and would be outright surprised that I don't listen to much classical music at all. And so I ask, well, why the hell not?
People are so intent these days on categorizing "intellectual" or "intelligent" people that they lose track of the fact that MANY people are in fact - hold your breath on this one - normal!. Who would've thought that the so-called smart people have their own preferences in music, as opposed to what people stereotype their preferences to be! They must not be who they say they are if they don't listen to what they're supposed to be. God forbid, if a supposed "intelligent individual" listens to music by the Spice Girls they should absolutely stop it right at this moment: they should KNOW better than to listen to such trash music!
sorry to get you so riled up.
But i guess to be honest, i think you should listen to classical music. There's incredible beauty and depth found in classical music, and while the taste may be an acquired one, i think it's worth acquiring. I'm not well-versed in classical music, and i'm certainly not trying to hold you up to 'unfair stereotypes' due your intelligence, hell, i haven't even graduated from high-school, so i'm certainly not an intellectual, nor am i qualified to give voice on such matters. But there is value in classical music, just as i think there is similar value found in RnB, hip-hop, and rap music.
I was not trying to create a dichotomy between classical music and everything else, but more trying to (albeit not hard enough, and completely failing to) express that i don't see what the attraction is in kpop. I was presumptuous in my implying that there was no value to be found, when i should have instead asked a fan to explain it to me. I did not appreciate classical music until a few of my friends introduced me to their favourite pieces, and why they were their favourites. The same can be said for my favourite band, Radiohead, who i absolutely despised until i was also encouraged to explore their music further. The same can be said for The Beatles, Pink Floyd, rap, and folk music, among others.
I like all kinds of music except for mainstream country (ie: i love folk music, but hate country), kpop, and teen-pop, pretty much. I just don't understand the appeal of those genres.
Enlighten me.
Why should we have to 'enlighten' you?
You don't have to enlighten me. It's up to you. If you'd like to share your joy of kpop music with someone who is largely open to all styles of music but has thus-far been unable to enjoy kpop, then please do so!
If you don't find me worth your time, by all means, don't waste it.
I'm not *that* bored. I'm also a great advocate of people going and doing the research themselves instead of having it spoon-fed to them. A list of artists I would recommend for experiencing the most diverse amount of Korean music include;
Urban Humming Stereo. Yozoh. W&Whale. Crying Nut. No Brain. The Trax. Epik high. Lee Ssang. SG Wannabe. Super Junior. Big Bang. Dong Bang Shin Ki. SHINee (mainly for Jonghyun's vocal talents.) SS501. SNSD. K Will. Outsider. Taegoon. Wheesung. Shinhwa. H.O.T. G.O.D. Seo Taji. 2PM/2AM/One Day. Kangta (and Vaness Wu if you want a laugh.) Anything indies including bands which only play festivals and don't have a large domestic commercial presence. These are harder to source though. Traditional Korean folk/court music. Trot. (For the record Trot is *not* one of my preferences. I do find it quite funny though.)
These are only my preferences, but they're a good starting point. (LOL After saying I wouldn't enlighten you I'm doing it anyway. Maybe I am that bored....)
I approve. Not that it means anything but I'm 육촌 with DBSK's Yunho! (Grandma's sibling's grandson)
On October 15 2009 10:31 koreasilver wrote: Outsider's first album was so good.
Then his second album was absolutely wretched. ):
I memorized Outsider - Loner by heart. Will be singing it for TL idol if I have time in the next couple of days!
Are you talking about 외톨이? Meh, "maestro" was a really big let down of this year for me. "Soliloquist" was such a brutally honest and uncompromised album which made it such an amazing album, but "maestro" was the complete opposite. I was actually pretty angry the first time I sat down and listened to it because Outsider is one of the few Korean artists I really enjoy. Oh well.
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
SNSD is better imo. What does that have to do with anything
sorry, it's distasteful of me to charge into your blog and to make fun of you. I just truly don't understand the appeal of kpop. It's completely mind-baffling.
When i was in junior high school it was annoying enough to see all the popular girls running around screaming about the Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls, but at least they were stupid blonde ditzes, so it didn't really get to me.
To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Wow. Seriously? I wasn't going to post anything until what you said in your last sentence.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Completely off-topic: Talk about buying into stereotypes. You know, I used (and still do, to some extent) to get the exact treatment that he is getting right now from you. People would always be baffled that I (salutorian at my high school and currently at a Top 10 university) enjoyed RnB or hip-hop and would be outright surprised that I don't listen to much classical music at all. And so I ask, well, why the hell not?
People are so intent these days on categorizing "intellectual" or "intelligent" people that they lose track of the fact that MANY people are in fact - hold your breath on this one - normal!. Who would've thought that the so-called smart people have their own preferences in music, as opposed to what people stereotype their preferences to be! They must not be who they say they are if they don't listen to what they're supposed to be. God forbid, if a supposed "intelligent individual" listens to music by the Spice Girls they should absolutely stop it right at this moment: they should KNOW better than to listen to such trash music!
sorry to get you so riled up.
But i guess to be honest, i think you should listen to classical music. There's incredible beauty and depth found in classical music, and while the taste may be an acquired one, i think it's worth acquiring. I'm not well-versed in classical music, and i'm certainly not trying to hold you up to 'unfair stereotypes' due your intelligence, hell, i haven't even graduated from high-school, so i'm certainly not an intellectual, nor am i qualified to give voice on such matters. But there is value in classical music, just as i think there is similar value found in RnB, hip-hop, and rap music.
I was not trying to create a dichotomy between classical music and everything else, but more trying to (albeit not hard enough, and completely failing to) express that i don't see what the attraction is in kpop. I was presumptuous in my implying that there was no value to be found, when i should have instead asked a fan to explain it to me. I did not appreciate classical music until a few of my friends introduced me to their favourite pieces, and why they were their favourites. The same can be said for my favourite band, Radiohead, who i absolutely despised until i was also encouraged to explore their music further. The same can be said for The Beatles, Pink Floyd, rap, and folk music, among others.
I like all kinds of music except for mainstream country (ie: i love folk music, but hate country), kpop, and teen-pop, pretty much. I just don't understand the appeal of those genres.
Enlighten me.
Why should we have to 'enlighten' you?
You don't have to enlighten me. It's up to you. If you'd like to share your joy of kpop music with someone who is largely open to all styles of music but has thus-far been unable to enjoy kpop, then please do so!
If you don't find me worth your time, by all means, don't waste it.
I'm not *that* bored. I'm also a great advocate of people going and doing the research themselves instead of having it spoon-fed to them. A list of artists I would recommend for experiencing the most diverse amount of Korean music include;
Urban Humming Stereo. Yozoh. W&Whale. Crying Nut. No Brain. The Trax. Epik high. Lee Ssang. SG Wannabe. Super Junior. Big Bang. Dong Bang Shin Ki. SHINee (mainly for Jonghyun's vocal talents.) SS501. SNSD. K Will. Outsider. Taegoon. Wheesung. Shinhwa. H.O.T. G.O.D. Seo Taji. 2PM/2AM/One Day. Kangta (and Vaness Wu if you want a laugh.) Anything indies including bands which only play festivals and don't have a large domestic commercial presence. These are harder to source though. Traditional Korean folk/court music. Trot. (For the record Trot is *not* one of my preferences. I do find it quite funny though.)
These are only my preferences, but they're a good starting point. (LOL After saying I wouldn't enlighten you I'm doing it anyway. Maybe I am that bored....)
I approve. Not that it means anything but I'm 육촌 with DBSK's Yunho! (Grandma's sibling's grandson)
Although you're really not related past 사촌
On October 15 2009 10:31 koreasilver wrote: Outsider's first album was so good.
Then his second album was absolutely wretched. ):
I memorized Outsider - Loner by heart. Will be singing it for TL idol if I have time in the next couple of days!
Are you talking about 외톨이? Meh, "maestro" was a really big let down of this year for me. "Soliloquist" was such a brutally honest and uncompromised album which made it such an amazing album, but "maestro" was the complete opposite. I was actually pretty angry the first time I sat down and listened to it because Outsider is one of the few Korean artists I really enjoy. Oh well.
yes 외톨이
I still have to memorize the intro and the instrumental part that are not actually part of the song.. If I remember correctly something like
Oh hey!!! Wonder Girls are still around the NY-NJ area?!?!? I wanna go meet them!!! Well.... not really... but still, it would be interesting though....
That being said, I really lost interest in WG for quite a while.... I'm a big time SNSD fan now.... and oh, I only plan to meet celebrities when I become famous and a celebrity myself so I have a better shot at them ^_^
On October 15 2009 11:43 QuickStriker wrote: and oh, I only plan to meet celebrities when I become famous and a celebrity myself so I have a better shot at them ^_^
Why would a celebrity want another celebrity? They wanna marry rich ahjussas and rich ahjummas, not another poor celebrity.
On October 15 2009 11:43 QuickStriker wrote: and oh, I only plan to meet celebrities when I become famous and a celebrity myself so I have a better shot at them ^_^
Why would a celebrity want another celebrity? They wanna marry rich ahjussas and rich ahjummas, not another poor celebrity.
yep. in five or so years you are going to see all of snsd except hyoyeon in a relationship/married to old fogies.
On October 15 2009 11:43 QuickStriker wrote: and oh, I only plan to meet celebrities when I become famous and a celebrity myself so I have a better shot at them ^_^
Why would a celebrity want another celebrity? They wanna marry rich ahjussas and rich ahjummas, not another poor celebrity.
yep. in five or so years you are going to see all of snsd except hyoyeon in a relationship/married to old fogies.
In five or so years I'll have won the lottery about 5 times, became a billionaire, and be living with Jessica
On October 15 2009 11:43 QuickStriker wrote: and oh, I only plan to meet celebrities when I become famous and a celebrity myself so I have a better shot at them ^_^
Why would a celebrity want another celebrity? They wanna marry rich ahjussas and rich ahjummas, not another poor celebrity.
yep. in five or so years you are going to see all of snsd except hyoyeon in a relationship/married to old fogies.
In five or so years I'll have won the lottery about 5 times, became a billionaire, and be living with Jessica
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
Yay lets make fun of this guy for liking hot women.
i actually was making fun of his music tastes.
i'm guess you didn't score 30/30 no that mensa test.
lol
Wonder Girls are really bad at singing, I won't lie.
Can't blame me for liking k-pop especially since I'm Korean. I've lived there for most of my life too. It really doesn't bother me that you don't believe I got 30 on that test, but it bothers me that you'd make fun of k-pop
On October 15 2009 08:55 Mora wrote: To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Now that's just stereotyping.
What test are you talking about and what does it mean? Im assuming 30-30 is unheard of or extremely hard? What field is that test for?
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
Yay lets make fun of this guy for liking hot women.
i actually was making fun of his music tastes.
i'm guess you didn't score 30/30 no that mensa test.
lol
Wonder Girls are really bad at singing, I won't lie.
Can't blame me for liking k-pop especially since I'm Korean. I've lived there for most of my life too. It really doesn't bother me that you don't believe I got 30 on that test, but it bothers me that you'd make fun of k-pop
On October 15 2009 08:55 Mora wrote: To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Now that's just stereotyping.
What test are you talking about and what does it mean? Im assuming 30-30 is unheard of or extremely hard? What field is that test for?
On October 15 2009 08:43 Mora wrote: aren't you the dude who got 30/30 on that mensa test?
really? Wonder Girls?
Yay lets make fun of this guy for liking hot women.
i actually was making fun of his music tastes.
i'm guess you didn't score 30/30 no that mensa test.
lol
Wonder Girls are really bad at singing, I won't lie.
Can't blame me for liking k-pop especially since I'm Korean. I've lived there for most of my life too. It really doesn't bother me that you don't believe I got 30 on that test, but it bothers me that you'd make fun of k-pop
On October 15 2009 08:55 Mora wrote: To see someone with intelligence (or at least implied intelligence) admire/enjoy such shallow empty music is again, baffling. Those girls from my high school had an excuse - they didn't know any better. But with intelligent individuals i'm just left wondering.
Shouldn't you be playing mozart or something?
Now that's just stereotyping.
What test are you talking about and what does it mean? Im assuming 30-30 is unheard of or extremely hard? What field is that test for?
On October 15 2009 11:43 QuickStriker wrote: and oh, I only plan to meet celebrities when I become famous and a celebrity myself so I have a better shot at them ^_^
Why would a celebrity want another celebrity? They wanna marry rich ahjussas and rich ahjummas, not another poor celebrity.
yep. in five or so years you are going to see all of snsd except hyoyeon in a relationship/married to old fogies.
In five or so years I'll have won the lottery about 5 times, became a billionaire, and be living with Jessica
On October 15 2009 11:43 QuickStriker wrote: and oh, I only plan to meet celebrities when I become famous and a celebrity myself so I have a better shot at them ^_^
Why would a celebrity want another celebrity? They wanna marry rich ahjussas and rich ahjummas, not another poor celebrity.
yep. in five or so years you are going to see all of snsd except hyoyeon in a relationship/married to old fogies.
In five or so years I'll have won the lottery about 5 times, became a billionaire, and be living with Jessica
now you are getting into the point of creepy ~_~
NOT AS CREEPY AS YOOH GTR
no one can ever be as creepy as GTR though so not a fair comparision
Kpop encompasses a lot, doesn't it? I like groups like Epik High and most korean ballad singers, but I don't like most of the girl groups. Also, Mora, out of all of kpop groups that i've listened to, I would say WG (especially the 'nobody' song that you looked up) is probably on the extreme lower end. You were being a little pedantic though.
On October 15 2009 09:06 Waffles wrote: lol what does the kind of music you listen have to do with your intelligence?!?!(soulja boy is an exception)
Because honestly the music is very simple. It may sound good but that doesn't change the fact that usually you see 'geniuses' listening to more complex music.
At least that's the theory.
This is very, very untrue.
I can respect your disagreement but I'd like to know what is so untrue and why. If you really think there is some real musical proficiency in KPop, then I'd at least like some examples because I have never heard it. The music sounds fine, and I actually like some tunes, but in general pop music is known for not having any complexity to it...
On October 15 2009 11:43 QuickStriker wrote: and oh, I only plan to meet celebrities when I become famous and a celebrity myself so I have a better shot at them ^_^
Why would a celebrity want another celebrity? They wanna marry rich ahjussas and rich ahjummas, not another poor celebrity.
yep. in five or so years you are going to see all of snsd except hyoyeon in a relationship/married to old fogies.
In five or so years I'll have won the lottery about 5 times, became a billionaire, and be living with Jessica
now you are getting into the point of creepy ~_~
NOT AS CREEPY AS YOOH GTR
no one can ever be as creepy as GTR though so not a fair comparision
On October 15 2009 09:06 Waffles wrote: lol what does the kind of music you listen have to do with your intelligence?!?!(soulja boy is an exception)
Because honestly the music is very simple. It may sound good but that doesn't change the fact that usually you see 'geniuses' listening to more complex music.
At least that's the theory.
This is very, very untrue.
I can respect your disagreement but I'd like to know what is so untrue and why. If you really think there is some real musical proficiency in KPop, then I'd at least like some examples because I have never heard it. The music sounds fine, and I actually like some tunes, but in general pop music is known for not having any complexity to it...
Most kpop is just really processed drivel that has no real musical merit. The point that I made in a post to Mora is that most people aren't actually really interested in music. They don't listen, they hear; they don't look into music as a serious art form, just rather as a form of simple entertainment. Whether or not someone looks into music seriously has nothing to do with whether they are intelligent or not; it just has to do with their interests.
EPT
![[image loading]](http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/highguy424/10-14-09_1657.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/highguy424/10-14-09_1624.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/highguy424/10-14-09_1655.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/highguy424/10-14-09_1623.jpg)
!![[image loading]](http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/highguy424/091014_185729.jpg)
. She got a little chubby lately and the only picture I have of her currently she has a double chin showing.![[image loading]](http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/highguy424/10-14-09_1658.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://cfs13.tistory.com/image/23/tistory/2009/02/01/20/55/49858da65edc1)
