I HATE MAC ! - Page 4

On August 27 2009 06:53 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:


That ad makes me angry. If you keep your windows and browser updated, don't go to shady websites, and aren't retarded enough to fall for phishing attacks or run a 20kb exe file pretending to be a song that you downloaded off limewire, the likelihood of getting a virus or being attacked by a worm is so low. You don't even really need an antivirus. If more people start getting macs they will realize that hackers don't target macs because nobody uses them.

On August 27 2009 03:11 Sharp-eYe wrote:


ok here is my reason. I like using my entire hand to press the mouse. Also, i like how photoshop is on a Mac, as the tool bars are more seperate from the picture, instead of an ugly gray background behind it. I base this on my experience on using cs3 on both OS X and Windows. sorry if i wasnt clear.

On August 27 2009 05:06 blue_arrow wrote:
You know, for people who actually know how to mod their windows and desktops and whatnot, macs aren't even an option.

Older ppl I find use macs cause they're much easier to understand and require way less effort to learn. For the younger ppl, most of the time they just think macs are cooler/look better and they simply must get one.

To me, macs have always been some nicely set up computers with some cute software made so that users can enjoy an easy computer experience right off the bat.

However, ppl willing to put some effort and time into their windows can easily make windows look 5x better and run 5x better than any mac OS.

Functionality, capability and flexibility-wise, windows/pcs are wayyy better than macs. The thing is, you have to find that potential yourself. I prefer pcs/windows not because of what they are, but because of what I can accomplish with a PC as opposed to a mac.

On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote:
Before I begin, I appologize for any harsh/personal comments:

You know, I am glad atleast you have an opinion based on experience. Its great, because most PC users just say "Macs sux" and thats it.

However, do not call people retarded because they have a preference for something. I can tell you many Windows users stuck up about their OS as well. They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.

Yes I agree, Macs are not that great for gaming, but for the record, games are designed on a mac, and because 85% of the world is using Windows because of controversial issues in the 80's and 90's, they have to import their graphics and re code it all on Windows. That should speak for itself.

That 1 click mouse is not meant for gaming. If I was blessed enough to have an iMac, I would switch it to a Razor or what not when I am playing. However, I have found using that 1 click mouse to be far easier to control for programs such as Photoshop.

Just because you hate it doesnt mean someone else does to.

Now, for your problems, just google for it.

On August 27 2009 02:19 stafu wrote:
OS X is an amazing operation system and I love using my MacBook Pro for a lot of things (coding/photoshopping/all that kind of stuff), but I won't use it to play games. You can just feel on the desktop it doesn't have the kind of mouse input you need to play games like StarCraft/Quake. It's annoying, but it's true.

You can disable mouse accel (I've gotten rid of it via USB Overdrive or something like that), but the mouse input is still pretty horrid, so it's much better to just bootcamp XP or Windows 7 if you want to do any gaming.

On August 27 2009 02:33 Sharp-eYe wrote:
First of all, dont rate my opinions without any content. Atleast I am explaining myself.

Also, these facts that I am "pulling out my ass" are from texts and from people who teach how to use art programs (such as photoshop). Yes, these things all of biases, but then again what doesnt. And maybe what I am saying my not be all correct. However, atleast I am explaining myself instead going "0/10" or "ur just jealous cuz BLAH BLAHB BLAH." For the record I am not jealous, as I personally dont care, as I am broad minded enough to be able to use Linux/OS X/Windows at the same time.

And btw you dont see everything developers do. If you are a dev that has worked on a good, popular game in the art department, please correct me if I am wrong.

I personally do think OS X can be greatly improved. For starters, I still dont like how awkward it is to change file names, and windows makes is easier. Then again, using photoshop on windows is awkward and does not look good IMO.

This thread will turn into a pointless war about how either mac fags (the ones that bitch about how OS X and steve jobs are gods) or windows retards (dont base their opinions on anything) are better.

On August 27 2009 09:47 Bockit wrote:


This is actually a pretty uninformed post. You're basically saying, "I can do these things in windows, I don't know how/if you can do them on a mac, therefore it's not possible". You are able to theme OSX, a simple google search would have revealed this. There are also tons of software for mac that simply don't have quality equivalents in windows, I made a post about this in the Linux, why you should try it thread when much the same discussion as we're having here was happening.

Having gone through the whole modding windows thing, I find it much, much easier to extend OSX to improve my workflow exactly as I want. Shell scripts (doable on windows but nowhere near as accessible to call) and applescript. And improving my workflow is probably the most important thing for me choosing an OS to spend most of my time on.

On August 27 2009 11:45 blue_arrow wrote:


ehh, thats not exactly what my point was

what i was trying to impress was that even though windows may first come as something that looks and works less smoothly than a mac, if you put some effort into it, you can get even better aesthetics than you would with OSX or whatever other apple OS, while still retaining all the good features of windows/pcs (better game compatibility, lower prices and whatnot).
i guess i should have more directly stressed this point instead of just saying that younger ppl find macs more appealing due to macs being "cooler"/more aesthetically pleasing, or that older ppl like the lessened hassel (i'm being general here and not stereotyping).

i'll admit i do personally dislike macs, but i try to keep any deeply biased statements out of my posts. you're also right in saying that i'm relatively uninformed about macs in general, and you're right in thinking that I know less than you regarding not only modding macs and linux, but windows as well (in fact i've never even touched a computer with linux before lol).

i simply based this post off of my general knowledge/experience that:
-macs are more expensive than their pc counterparts
-macs have compatibility issues with certain software and games
-windows is less aesthetically pleasing and user friendly than macs
-windows is moddable so that the aesthetic quality level of a mac (and beyond) can be attained for windows

when reading through my post again, i can see how i come off as ignorant because i don't consider the things you can do with a mac. however, because i personally must consider things like price and compatibility issues before aesthetics/workflow, you have to understand why I don't/cannot talk about modding macs' operating systems.

i think the problem was that i should have put "especially considering the price and compatability issues of macs, it's just not worth it" after all my points instead of being so absolute and general in my statements.

EDIT: on an unrelated note, you know what i'm finding? forums and non-instant communication in general are terrible methods to hold discussions with small numbers of people.

On August 27 2009 03:51 ghermination wrote:


Mac"Fags" are people who blather on about how superior their operating system is with no factual support (as in "hurf durf no viruses" etc.), however PC"Fags" are enraged by the stupid Mac"Fags" who do this, so they come down out of their superior operating system to lay waste to the stupidity which will be clung to by the Mac"Fags" anyway.

For example: I'll configure a Mac Pro off of the Apple website, and then configure a PC with the same specifications

Mac Pro:
2.66ghz Xeon Quad Core
3x2GB DDR3 1066
1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive (16mb Cache)
ATI Radeon 4870 512mb
18x Superdrive

$2499

PC:
2.66ghz Xeon Quad Core (LGA 771)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117182
$979.99
TYAN S5376G2NR Tempest i5100W Dual LGA 771 Motherboard
(This information isn't included in the Mac Pro, but i'll go with one in the right price range for this system)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813151177
$199.99
3x2GB DDR2 1066
Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220378
$119.99
1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive (32mb Cache)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433
$89.99
ATI Radeon 4870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150395
$162.99
Sony Black 18x DVD/CD-ROM Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118031
$18.99
XCLIO A380BK Fully Black Case
(Once again, this information isn't included on the apple website, but the Mac Pro case has 1x120mm fans, while this one has 2x250mm fans)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811103010
$89.99

$1661.93

This is just ONE demonstration that shows the incredible mark-up on mac machines - and not only that, but the Xeon Quad-Core is a TERRIBLE product for desktop peformance, its a server core for a reason. An i7 920 would be $700 cheaper and perform much, much better for the average user! That means you could SURPASS the performance of that shitty, overpriced mac for only around $900.

On September 02 2009 03:06 gLyo wrote:
I don't get why people bash Macs for looking awesome. For a non-gamer, the only serious drawback to a Mac is the price, but some people really are willing to pay for aesthetics. It's not crazy to us -- we like our stuff to look good. PCs, more often than not, end up looking like cheap plastic toys compared to Macs.

On August 27 2009 00:00 da_head wrote:
macs are overpriced, made for retards, and are fashion accessories. sucks to be you

On September 02 2009 03:06 gLyo wrote:
I don't get why people bash Macs for looking awesome. For a non-gamer, the only serious drawback to a Mac is the price, but some people really are willing to pay for aesthetics. It's not crazy to us -- we like our stuff to look good. PCs, more often than not, end up looking like cheap plastic toys compared to Macs.