On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote: Before I begin, I appologize for any harsh/personal comments:
You know, I am glad atleast you have an opinion based on experience. Its great, because most PC users just say "Macs sux" and thats it.
However, do not call people retarded because they have a preference for something. I can tell you many Windows users stuck up about their OS as well. They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.
Yes I agree, Macs are not that great for gaming, but for the record, games are designed on a mac, and because 85% of the world is using Windows because of controversial issues in the 80's and 90's, they have to import their graphics and re code it all on Windows. That should speak for itself.
That 1 click mouse is not meant for gaming. If I was blessed enough to have an iMac, I would switch it to a Razor or what not when I am playing. However, I have found using that 1 click mouse to be far easier to control for programs such as Photoshop.
Just because you hate it doesnt mean someone else does to.
Now, for your problems, just google for it.
I just wanna say..How dare you say you can't go on Tl without getting a virus TL is a happy, safe, disease free place. Except for cooties.
And how does a 1 click mouse make it "far" easier to control programs such as photoshop exactly?
On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote: Before I begin, I appologize for any harsh/personal comments:
You know, I am glad atleast you have an opinion based on experience. Its great, because most PC users just say "Macs sux" and thats it.
However, do not call people retarded because they have a preference for something. I can tell you many Windows users stuck up about their OS as well. They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.
Yes I agree, Macs are not that great for gaming, but for the record, games are designed on a mac, and because 85% of the world is using Windows because of controversial issues in the 80's and 90's, they have to import their graphics and re code it all on Windows. That should speak for itself.
That 1 click mouse is not meant for gaming. If I was blessed enough to have an iMac, I would switch it to a Razor or what not when I am playing. However, I have found using that 1 click mouse to be far easier to control for programs such as Photoshop.
Just because you hate it doesnt mean someone else does to.
On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote: However, do not call people retarded because they have a preference for something. I can tell you many Windows users stuck up about their OS as well. They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.
Rest assured that Macs would have just the same problems with viruses that Windows has if Mac was the most common OS. The most important protection Mac has is that nobody cares to code malware for a few percent of the computers when he could just as well cover like 90%. Mac might be safer to some extent, but "safer" does not imply "safe".
First of all, dont rate my opinions without any content. Atleast I am explaining myself.
Also, these facts that I am "pulling out my ass" are from texts and from people who teach how to use art programs (such as photoshop). Yes, these things all of biases, but then again what doesnt. And maybe what I am saying my not be all correct. However, atleast I am explaining myself instead going "0/10" or "ur just jealous cuz BLAH BLAHB BLAH." For the record I am not jealous, as I personally dont care, as I am broad minded enough to be able to use Linux/OS X/Windows at the same time.
And btw you dont see everything developers do. If you are a dev that has worked on a good, popular game in the art department, please correct me if I am wrong.
I personally do think OS X can be greatly improved. For starters, I still dont like how awkward it is to change file names, and windows makes is easier. Then again, using photoshop on windows is awkward and does not look good IMO.
This thread will turn into a pointless war about how either mac fags (the ones that bitch about how OS X and steve jobs are gods) or windows retards (dont base their opinions on anything) are better.
On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote: Before I begin, I appologize for any harsh/personal comments:
You know, I am glad atleast you have an opinion based on experience. Its great, because most PC users just say "Macs sux" and thats it.
However, do not call people retarded because they have a preference for something. I can tell you many Windows users stuck up about their OS as well. They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.
Yes I agree, Macs are not that great for gaming, but for the record, games are designed on a mac, and because 85% of the world is using Windows because of controversial issues in the 80's and 90's, they have to import their graphics and re code it all on Windows. That should speak for itself.
That 1 click mouse is not meant for gaming. If I was blessed enough to have an iMac, I would switch it to a Razor or what not when I am playing. However, I have found using that 1 click mouse to be far easier to control for programs such as Photoshop.
Just because you hate it doesnt mean someone else does to.
Now, for your problems, just google for it.
I just wanna say..How dare you say you can't go on Tl without getting a virus TL is a happy, safe, disease free place. Except for cooties.
And how does a 1 click mouse make it "far" easier to control programs such as photoshop exactly?
my opinion it does. like I said, its about preference.
On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote: Before I begin, I appologize for any harsh/personal comments:
You know, I am glad atleast you have an opinion based on experience. Its great, because most PC users just say "Macs sux" and thats it.
However, do not call people retarded because they have a preference for something. I can tell you many Windows users stuck up about their OS as well. They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.
Yes I agree, Macs are not that great for gaming, but for the record, games are designed on a mac, and because 85% of the world is using Windows because of controversial issues in the 80's and 90's, they have to import their graphics and re code it all on Windows. That should speak for itself.
That 1 click mouse is not meant for gaming. If I was blessed enough to have an iMac, I would switch it to a Razor or what not when I am playing. However, I have found using that 1 click mouse to be far easier to control for programs such as Photoshop.
Just because you hate it doesnt mean someone else does to.
Now, for your problems, just google for it.
I just wanna say..How dare you say you can't go on Tl without getting a virus TL is a happy, safe, disease free place. Except for cooties.
And how does a 1 click mouse make it "far" easier to control programs such as photoshop exactly?
my opinion it does. like I said, its about preference.
Ok understood. But even opinions and preferences have REASONS behind them.
I just dont see how it would make much difference either way in a program like photoshop. Like how could that be relevant? Especially for someone who just stated that "windows retards" don't base their statements on anything.
I don't like the Mac, but I have a friend who games only from there, with a dual partition as well for windows if he gets bored. You can gameand right click on a mac, just google it and learn how to do it.
On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote: Before I begin, I appologize for any harsh/personal comments:
You know, I am glad atleast you have an opinion based on experience. Its great, because most PC users just say "Macs sux" and thats it.
However, do not call people retarded because they have a preference for something. I can tell you many Windows users stuck up about their OS as well. They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.
Yes I agree, Macs are not that great for gaming, but for the record, games are designed on a mac, and because 85% of the world is using Windows because of controversial issues in the 80's and 90's, they have to import their graphics and re code it all on Windows. That should speak for itself.
That 1 click mouse is not meant for gaming. If I was blessed enough to have an iMac, I would switch it to a Razor or what not when I am playing. However, I have found using that 1 click mouse to be far easier to control for programs such as Photoshop.
Just because you hate it doesnt mean someone else does to.
Now, for your problems, just google for it.
I just wanna say..How dare you say you can't go on Tl without getting a virus TL is a happy, safe, disease free place. Except for cooties.
And how does a 1 click mouse make it "far" easier to control programs such as photoshop exactly?
my opinion it does. like I said, its about preference.
Ok understood. But even opinions and preferences have REASONS behind them.
I just dont see how it would make much difference either way in a program like photoshop. Like how could that be relevant? Especially for someone who just stated that "windows retards" don't base their statements on anything.
ok here is my reason. I like using my entire hand to press the mouse. Also, i like how photoshop is on a Mac, as the tool bars are more seperate from the picture, instead of an ugly gray background behind it. I base this on my experience on using cs3 on both OS X and Windows. sorry if i wasnt clear.
They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.
You don't need gigs of anti virus software. Thats just bullshit propoganda. If you're not retarded you can keep any computer reasonably clean. As more people use macs more hackers will target them and retarded mac users will need some anti virus software. Oh wait, Snow Leopard has built in AV software now so this point is moot.
Trial software is a somewhat more valid point. Obviously if you build your own computer you don't have to deal with it because its not something inherent in Windows. Depending on which manufacturer you buy from you will have differing levels of shit you have to uninstall but thats okay because I am fine with spending 30m-1hr uninstalling stuff if I'm saving an assload of cash.
Yes I agree, Macs are not that great for gaming, but for the record, games are designed on a mac, and because 85% of the world is using Windows because of controversial issues in the 80's and 90's, they have to import their graphics and re code it all on Windows. That should speak for itself.
No. Where would you even get this idea?
There are people who use Macs and can justify the extra cost and then there are those who are like you, woefully misinformed and blinded by fanboyism.
On August 27 2009 01:01 Archaic wrote: I am sick of mac-fags. By me saying mac-fags, I mean people who live their life against Windows, sleep with their mac, and warm their house with FireWire. Yes, I use a mac, but no, I am not a mac-fag. I personally use both operating systems, not only so I understand how to use both, instead of living a narrow minded life (technologically), but I think that Windows has it's pros and its cons, as well as OS X. Neither of them are perfect, neither are worthy of doing everything. So when people say that other OSes suck just because they like the one that they use, it just irritates the hell out of me. OS X has created some of the most obnoxious fans, and I am just thankful most people use PC. Not because of the OS, mind you. Just because the PC users tend to be less obnoxious. No one goes around saying, "Hey look at me! I'm using Windows 7. Aren't I cool? It works better than your computer because it's cooler! I'm not going to back this up with any significant proof, but I know why I'm better, and haha you suck!"
what about pc fags, who seize any opportunity to bash macs, like in this thread? macs and pcs have their pros and cons, let people have their preferences please.
On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote: Before I begin, I appologize for any harsh/personal comments:
You know, I am glad atleast you have an opinion based on experience. Its great, because most PC users just say "Macs sux" and thats it.
However, do not call people retarded because they have a preference for something. I can tell you many Windows users stuck up about their OS as well. They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.
Yes I agree, Macs are not that great for gaming, but for the record, games are designed on a mac, and because 85% of the world is using Windows because of controversial issues in the 80's and 90's, they have to import their graphics and re code it all on Windows. That should speak for itself.
That 1 click mouse is not meant for gaming. If I was blessed enough to have an iMac, I would switch it to a Razor or what not when I am playing. However, I have found using that 1 click mouse to be far easier to control for programs such as Photoshop.
Just because you hate it doesnt mean someone else does to.
Now, for your problems, just google for it.
I just wanna say..How dare you say you can't go on Tl without getting a virus TL is a happy, safe, disease free place. Except for cooties.
And how does a 1 click mouse make it "far" easier to control programs such as photoshop exactly?
my opinion it does. like I said, its about preference.
Ok understood. But even opinions and preferences have REASONS behind them.
I just dont see how it would make much difference either way in a program like photoshop. Like how could that be relevant? Especially for someone who just stated that "windows retards" don't base their statements on anything.
ok here is my reason. I like using my entire hand to press the mouse. Also, i like how photoshop is on a Mac, as the tool bars are more seperate from the picture, instead of an ugly gray background behind it. I base this on my experience on using cs3 on both OS X and Windows. sorry if i wasnt clear.
Thats cool and all but seriously man...what kind of broodwar player likes to use their entire hand to press the mouse. Thats just ...wrong
You do play broodwar dont you? If not, like I said... thats cool, its just expected around here.
And most of that seems to be just "what your used to" issues. Which is what I think the core arguement is for OS X and windows users alike. They like what they are used to naturally enough. And they sure as hell aren't changing their minds lol.
On August 27 2009 03:29 ydg wrote: what about pc fags, who seize any opportunity to bash macs, like in this thread? macs and pcs have their pros and cons, let people have their preferences please.
Mac"Fags" are people who blather on about how superior their operating system is with no factual support (as in "hurf durf no viruses" etc.), however PC"Fags" are enraged by the stupid Mac"Fags" who do this, so they come down out of their superior operating system to lay waste to the stupidity which will be clung to by the Mac"Fags" anyway.
For example: I'll configure a Mac Pro off of the Apple website, and then configure a PC with the same specifications
Mac Pro: 2.66ghz Xeon Quad Core 3x2GB DDR3 1066 1TB 7200RPM Hard Drive (16mb Cache) ATI Radeon 4870 512mb 18x Superdrive
This is just ONE demonstration that shows the incredible mark-up on mac machines - and not only that, but the Xeon Quad-Core is a TERRIBLE product for desktop peformance, its a server core for a reason. An i7 920 would be $700 cheaper and perform much, much better for the average user! That means you could SURPASS the performance of that shitty, overpriced mac for only around $900.
On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote: Before I begin, I appologize for any harsh/personal comments:
You know, I am glad atleast you have an opinion based on experience. Its great, because most PC users just say "Macs sux" and thats it.
I grew up using macs and they suckkkkk
I hate how it crashed practically every day, just had to reboot it since they had no real equivalent to the task manager. My PC never crashes so badly that you have to reboot it.
After using a mac for about 3 years I switched to PC and was so much happier. Macs are ridiculous wastes of money. Why not just use linux instead of using a mac, it's just a dumbed down version of linux anyway. Just give a mac to your grandmother, I sure she would enjoy the simplicity and ease of use. And using her whole hand to click the mouse, too!
On August 27 2009 01:01 Archaic wrote: I am sick of mac-fags. By me saying mac-fags, I mean people who live their life against Windows, sleep with their mac, and warm their house with FireWire. Yes, I use a mac, but no, I am not a mac-fag. I personally use both operating systems, not only so I understand how to use both, instead of living a narrow minded life (technologically), but I think that Windows has it's pros and its cons, as well as OS X. Neither of them are perfect, neither are worthy of doing everything. So when people say that other OSes suck just because they like the one that they use, it just irritates the hell out of me. OS X has created some of the most obnoxious fans, and I am just thankful most people use PC. Not because of the OS, mind you. Just because the PC users tend to be less obnoxious. No one goes around saying, "Hey look at me! I'm using Windows 7. Aren't I cool? It works better than your computer because it's cooler! I'm not going to back this up with any significant proof, but I know why I'm better, and haha you suck!"
what about pc fags, who seize any opportunity to bash macs, like in this thread? macs and pcs have their pros and cons, let people have their preferences please.
You know, for people who actually know how to mod their windows and desktops and whatnot, macs aren't even an option.
Older ppl I find use macs cause they're much easier to understand and require way less effort to learn. For the younger ppl, most of the time they just think macs are cooler/look better and they simply must get one.
To me, macs have always been some nicely set up computers with some cute software made so that users can enjoy an easy computer experience right off the bat.
However, ppl willing to put some effort and time into their windows can easily make windows look 5x better and run 5x better than any mac OS.
Functionality, capability and flexibility-wise, windows/pcs are wayyy better than macs. The thing is, you have to find that potential yourself. I prefer pcs/windows not because of what they are, but because of what I can accomplish with a PC as opposed to a mac.
On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote: However, do not call people retarded because they have a preference for something. I can tell you many Windows users stuck up about their OS as well. They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.
slandering tl in a horrifically failed attempt to make a point...
On August 27 2009 01:01 Archaic wrote: I am sick of mac-fags. By me saying mac-fags, I mean people who live their life against Windows, sleep with their mac, and warm their house with FireWire. Yes, I use a mac, but no, I am not a mac-fag. I personally use both operating systems, not only so I understand how to use both, instead of living a narrow minded life (technologically), but I think that Windows has it's pros and its cons, as well as OS X. Neither of them are perfect, neither are worthy of doing everything. So when people say that other OSes suck just because they like the one that they use, it just irritates the hell out of me. OS X has created some of the most obnoxious fans, and I am just thankful most people use PC. Not because of the OS, mind you. Just because the PC users tend to be less obnoxious. No one goes around saying, "Hey look at me! I'm using Windows 7. Aren't I cool? It works better than your computer because it's cooler! I'm not going to back this up with any significant proof, but I know why I'm better, and haha you suck!"
what about pc fags, who seize any opportunity to bash macs, like in this thread? macs and pcs have their pros and cons, let people have their preferences please.
That ad makes me angry. If you keep your windows and browser updated, don't go to shady websites, and aren't retarded enough to fall for phishing attacks or run a 20kb exe file pretending to be a song that you downloaded off limewire, the likelihood of getting a virus or being attacked by a worm is so low. You don't even really need an antivirus. If more people start getting macs they will realize that hackers don't target macs because nobody uses them.
On August 27 2009 01:19 Sharp-eYe wrote: Before I begin, I appologize for any harsh/personal comments:
You know, I am glad atleast you have an opinion based on experience. Its great, because most PC users just say "Macs sux" and thats it.
However, do not call people retarded because they have a preference for something. I can tell you many Windows users stuck up about their OS as well. They dont mind having gigs of anti virus software that is a must for windows, as you can not even go on Teamliquid without getting a virus, and trial software that no one uses.
Yes I agree, Macs are not that great for gaming, but for the record, games are designed on a mac, and because 85% of the world is using Windows because of controversial issues in the 80's and 90's, they have to import their graphics and re code it all on Windows. That should speak for itself.
That 1 click mouse is not meant for gaming. If I was blessed enough to have an iMac, I would switch it to a Razor or what not when I am playing. However, I have found using that 1 click mouse to be far easier to control for programs such as Photoshop.
Just because you hate it doesnt mean someone else does to.
Now, for your problems, just google for it.
Why people are retarded in my company ? Because it would cost 2x less if they went for a PC so save money and stop whining about the crisis.
Why Mac here ? -I don't use photoshop, I use gimp cuz I can do everything I want on it since my job isn't design or things like that and Gimp is free -I still use Office and since the clients (Japanese) all have Microsoft Windows, when I send them a powerpoint made under mac, they usually got the "spacing" problem -Mac is freaking incompatible with everything and what the point having dual boot when I can just have Windows and it's ok ? -Mac is absolutely beautiful and I love the OLED screen but guess what, it's still a computer and I don't wank watching it. -For security reasons ? LOLLOLOLOL. If you really care about that, use open BSD and it's still free. -Why would I buy a Dell Keyboard or a PC mouse when I got a Mac Wireless KB and mouse... ah, yeah, because of the fn and the click issues... so, once again, I use something from PC on a Mac.
So after listing all these reasons I can say : Mac doesn't do better than a PC and actually does less but costs more. So, people are retarded. Still don't agree ? Don't read this blog and go back to your Mac church singing how Mac is the best OS ever with all these Mac fanboys from this Mac communi.... uh, mac cult.
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