EPTDrone's Moderation of COVID Thread
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On November 30 2022 09:57 JimmiC wrote: I posted an article that has that sort of info, if you were actually interested you would have clicked. What I do find hilarious though is that your second paragraph has no source or any of the things you say encourage people to see things from your point of view. It is direct contradictions of ones own logic that leads to people purchasing the "other crap" I was speaking of. Edit: A quick google of your claim, and not surprisingly it is bogus from a bogus site, I guess this is why you did not source it. https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/mike-adams-flawed-analysis-clot-embalmer-richard-hirschman-doesnt-demonstrate-link-between-blood-clots-and-covid-19-vaccines-epoch-times/ @ razyda of course not, not only was the summary more than enough to say it was far from factual but why would I want to waste the time or support those who made it? Now if it had some actual evidence it might be worth a watch. But between this thread and facebook I get enough of the garbage, I do not want to spend my time having to look up all the claims to find out how bad they are. Have you watched it? Is it chalk full of good information? Can you share what are the big takeaway's that are inconsistent with the summary that was presented? And to you doctors thing, there were people who were actually killed for speaking out that Covid was real when China and Russia were pretending it was not. You really think none would speak out if they actually thought it was bad? There are even health organizations telling people not to get a 5th booster unless there is a specific reason to get it or they are in a high risk group. They are giving the best advice based on the data, you are just looking for reasons to not believe them. Why is that? On December 02 2022 08:14 BlackJack wrote: This is not very compelling evidence. I was easily able to find articles pre-pandemic about solar flares causing heart attacks or whatever nonsense. The media has been spamming fear porn about "X" causing heart attacks or "Y" causing cancer forever. It's not a new phenomenon to muddy the waters of people dropping dead. If there were some coverup we probably wouldn't know about J&J vaccine causing blood clots or mRNA vaccines causing myocarditis in the first place. Although I don't know why this is banworthy. JimmiC is the one that posted the conspiracy video and asked someone if they watched it and what their big takeaways are. If it's banworthy to promote shitty conspiracy theories then perhaps we shouldn't allow users to coax other users into violating forum rules? Since JimmiC came here to slander me, I went ahead and transcribed the only post I wrote about him and anyone that wants can compare it to JimmiC's post. I bolded the relevant portion in both posts. It's a word for word replication yet somehow I am "twisting" words here... | ||
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On December 09 2022 23:48 Sermokala wrote: Nettles you can't just cheerlead one side and expect people to listen to you. If you have something to contribute please contribute it. This discussion was already had over several pages in the thread.This does not need to exist, it's just JimmiC stroking his own ego. | ||
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On December 11 2022 09:22 JimmiC wrote: This the appropriate spot to put moderation complaints. If most people posted the way you do complaining about it and you are the one who does it the most, they would get warned, banned or told to bring it here. I have no problem with whatever the rules are going to be, my issue is that you are the special snowflake who does not have consequences but constantly claims victimhood. You start and continue fights with many people and it is always their fault. I brought this here because he put down a rule and was again making it for everyone but you. Sadly this thread will likely stay active because you won't stop. So your complaints are that I start fights with people without consequence and I claim victimhood. In the same breath you're name-calling me a snowflake in this thread you made about being the victim of unfair moderation. I hope you appreciate the irony at least. | ||
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On November 07 2022 05:41 JimmiC wrote: + Show Spoiler + Most public health experts are still recomending, last time I checked, people 5 years ans older get vaccinated. So they would disagree with you. One of the major reasons for having vaccinations required at schools is not just to protect the children, but because it is a vector that almost all members of society pass through. So if you want all the members of your society to have a vaccination this is the best place to do this. @blackjack these posts are hilarious, the drama, irony and victimhood. Classic!  Unlike you I actually do take the high-road and don't respond to your posts like these because it's obvious you just want to get into a stupid back and forth with me that nobody cares about and will bog down the COVID thread. The irony is that you are endlessly accusing me of being a shit-starter while I ignore you. The endless accusing me of being a shit-starter is in itself a desperate attempt to start some shit. I guess me choosing to ignore you in the COVID thread has left you starved for the attention you need so you had to make this thread. It did get you some attention so I guess mission accomplished. I'll let you have the last word since that's the only way this will end. | ||
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You often make good posts with valid points in them. However, when there's some disagreement about something (in this case, how I hold BJ to a special standard, or that BJ is a shit-starter snowflake), you keep making the same post over and over until ignoring you stops being an option, even though the point you are making actually has been answered/addressed in the past - just not with the answer you were hoping for. People disagree. Deal with it. I consider my role on this forum to facilitate discussion - not stifle it. For this reason, I, rather consistently, try to sort out disagreements between the 'lone rangers' who argue coherent points of view that go against the mainstream forum points of view (even though I myself tend to lean more towards the mainstream). This is why you see me present my interpretations of say, Danglars, or BJ, or GH (but not Nettles or Razyda), because these are posters who make valid points but whose points are misinterpreted by lots of posters and it causes unnecessary tension and hostility. | ||
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I warned you once like 3 1/2 years ago, but I've never banned you. I warned MP once and gave him a 2 day ban once, for very specifically breaking the rules I had specifically stated were now in place. (Remember, I said 'you're all pardoned' - meaning everyone started at scratch, after that.) The first time he did it I warned him, the second time, he got a two day ban. BJ was guilty of a similar infraction once. I warned him. Serm hasn't been banned once since he got a two day ban back in 2017. He's been warned a few times since, but not even once since 2019. As far as I'm concerned, he was the poster who was by far the guiltiest in terms of shitting up the covid thread - but guess what, he hasn't been posting like that since I specified the new enforcement of rules, so he hasn't been actioned. If there's one thing I specifically regret in terms of how I've moderated the thread, it's actually not slapping Serm with a warning (and then bans) during the early stage of one of his 'you're an anti-vaxxer' rants targeted towards BJ, because I think those were clearly unacceptable, and a large part of what soured the relations. | ||
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I made the very narrow point that instituting vaccine mandates would only reduce incidence of long-covid by a small amount: On December 09 2022 06:03 BlackJack wrote:But then you have to consider how much Long-COVID would be prevented by that extra 10% coverage [from instituting vaccine mandates]. Because not everyone that gets vaccinated is immune from long-COVID. Studies vary widely and only a fraction of that 10% would be prevented from getting Long-COVID. Instead of disputing my specific claim posters opted to imply that I was arguing that vaccines don't prevent long-COVID at all. On December 09 2022 18:55 Magic Powers wrote: + Show Spoiler + BJ, you're an anti-vaxxer, and everything you say is tainted by that perception. When you post something, I don't have the slightest interest writing a paragraph debunking your comment. I write very short comments and then ignore your responses, because that's all you deserve of my time. The point is that you're once again comparing apples to oranges. I pointed that out by showing that California had 59% more infections. I could've instead pointed to other data points showing how different California is, but I chose that one. I do not hold your hand anymore, because that's a wasted effort. You will always misinterpret data however you want anyway, so I don't make any additional effort explaining things to you. I treat you like a child, as I do with notorious anti-vaxxers. I treat you like someone who's incapable of doing basic statistical breakdowns. Don't get used to me writing more than a short sentence in response to your comments. I'm only explaining why I won't be doing it in the future either. Your conclusion is wrong. A higher rate of long covid in California does not indicate whatsoever that vaccination doesn't prevent long covid. It's wrong, and it's terribly wrong. It's your usual anti-vaxx misinformation that you like to spread. and On December 09 2022 20:16 JimmiC wrote: The science disagrees with you. The data points to Vaccines reducing long covid. + Show Spoiler + Its just that scientists do not look at rates by states and extrapalte conclusions from extremely varied situations with 10000s of factors that coukd change the result to come to convoluted conclusions. They attempt to remove all the extraneous factors isolate what they are looking for, in this vaccinated vs unvaccinated and its impact on long covid. They use the scientific method as to remove confirmation, political and other biases. This is why they find consistent results across many countires and varried back grounds. Now it would be contriversal to say that vaccination helps with people who already have long covid because that information is mixed. Here is one such study that actually looks at 2854 other studies. From 2584 studies identified, 11 peer-reviewed studies and six preprints were included. The methodological quality of 82% (n=14/17) studies was high. Six studies (n=17,256,654 individuals) investigated the impact of vaccines before acute SARS-CoV-2 infection (vaccine-infection-long-COVID design). Overall, vaccination was associated with reduced risks or odds of long-COVID, with preliminary evidence suggesting that two doses are more effective than one dose. Eleven studies (n=36,736 COVID-19 survivors) investigated changes in long-COVID symptoms after vaccination (infection-long-COVID-vaccine design). Seven articles showed an improvement in long-COVID symptoms at least one dose post-vaccination, while four studies reported no change or worsening in long-COVID symptoms after vaccination. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(22)00354-6/fulltext There is indeed massive differences between the arguments "Installing vaccine mandates don't prevent long-COVID by a significant amount" and "Vaccines don't prevent long-COVID." So people read my posts and they do this: " | ||
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