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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On August 28 2020 01:35 JimmiC wrote: You are shit disturber who loves Drama and being edgy. Saying this in the middle of writing a long, unprovoked post that is really just a personal attack on another user... pot, kettle? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7291 Posts
On August 27 2020 22:47 Nebuchad wrote: My understanding is that he discovered one of the places where liberals were fucking over conservatives, and that caused him to sympathize with conservatives more in general instead of making him realize that this is political theater. I think he was always a liberal, not really a leftist (and he still is that, to be clear). Interesting, I must have missed the occurrence, to me it was banned, gone for a bit, noted shift in general post length/tone, lol. Makes sense to me though. Also, I miss Plansix. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
You want to put him well within his rights the next time somebody says something absurd, like cops often kill blacks, saying "Looks like Team SJW is out in force today!" I don't think that standard is any good standard at all. And granted, if mahgrell had composed some ranty style response, that would be totally acceptable. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On September 03 2020 10:13 Danglars wrote: See also: Partial thread of the usual far-left suspects mug shots + Show Spoiler + twitter link removed Is it allowed to post a link to something like that on TL? (it's a link to a series of mugshots with names and what they're accused of, before they've been put on trial). I'm not entirely sure on how Dutch law handles it. (I believe this sort of thing is illegal in a lot of EU countries when it comes to EU citizens, not sure how it would be handled for US ones on an EU site). | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19045 Posts
Second, TL runs under EU/Netherlands jurisdiction so the point is moot. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
The “allowed to post,” I hope you recognize, invokes both TL rules of enforcement as well as possible legal troubles in EU. I hope you can recognize it’s not just a legal question. It may be valuable for a US Politics thread, or not, and still not under EU law proscription. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On September 03 2020 10:45 Danglars wrote: They’re considered a matter of public record in the United States. It’s valuable for certain narratives about the relative threat of far left and far right violence to see the actual people being charged with major crimes. Some would have you believe that Antifa and black bloc actions are a figment of right-wing imagination. So until such a time as not even the shooters name is released to the public, I think it’s appropriate. I wasn't saying the information wasn't useful (ie, it's fine to post in the thread from a Pol rules perspective), I just legitimately am not sure how TL handles that sort of thing. (Twitter is a US based org and isn't subject to the same regulations). I will note that it is the case that shooters names aren't released in many, many countries. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17979 Posts
On September 03 2020 11:31 Nevuk wrote: I wasn't saying the information wasn't useful (ie, it's fine to post in the thread from a Pol rules perspective), I just legitimately am not sure how TL handles that sort of thing. (Twitter is a US based org and isn't subject to the same regulations). I will note that it is the case that shooters names aren't released in many, many countries. Pretty sure those rules apply to law enforcement agencies and not the press. The press, at best, has an ethical code that even if they know they name, they don't use it. For instance, Thomas Breivik wasn't referred to as Thomas B. in Dutch news, because the local authorities didn't refer to him as Thomas B. but instead made his full name public. Meanwhile media calling the shooter of Pim Fortuyn by his full name were heavily criticized and there was some discussion about whether his last name should still be blanked out despite everybody knowing it. Some newspapers stubbornly continued to refer to him as Volkert vd. G, despite everybody knowing that G stood for Graaf. Similarly, Joran van der Sloot's last name was mentioned in international press long before Dutch press started using it. So I don't think there are any legal issues with TL posting private info that was made public legally elsewhere. And whether TL should adhere to Dutch ethical guide for journalism in the US politics thread is maybe an interesting question for the mods, I guess? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15677 Posts
On September 03 2020 10:51 Danglars wrote: Given that the mug shots were released to the public, it should follow that the applicable laws provide for the public record. The “allowed to post,” I hope you recognize, invokes both TL rules of enforcement as well as possible legal troubles in EU. I hope you can recognize it’s not just a legal question. It may be valuable for a US Politics thread, or not, and still not under EU law proscription. Do you mean to imply that posting a bunch of mug shots is valuable for conversation? | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On September 04 2020 00:16 Mohdoo wrote: Do you mean to imply that posting a bunch of mug shots is valuable for conversation? Particularly for the charge that there’s no such thing as Antifa and black bloc riots, or these are right wing false flag types, or they’re just peaceful protesters that got caught up in the chaos. And they’re not just mug shots, the thread includes many of weapons, and particulars of the charges. Since you never responded to my post, other than to dismiss it based on the last spoilered comment, put in some effort if you want me to do the same. | ||
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