EPTSimply direct everyone who doesn't want spoilers to not visit Team Liquid until they've watched their vods.
It'd be far more honest than current policy.
Perhaps we should remove the "no-spoiler" option.
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Simply direct everyone who doesn't want spoilers to not visit Team Liquid until they've watched their vods. It'd be far more honest than current policy. | ||
GMarshal
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JBright
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On September 17 2012 05:58 GMarshal wrote: you need to clarify what the issue is exactly. Spoilers appear regardless of whether the no-spoiler option is checked on a regular basis. Therefore, suggesting there is such a thing as a no-spoiler option is pretty much lying. People who don't like spoilers often trust in this lie, and are thus, er... spoiled... more often than they would be if TL didn't pretend it had a no-spoiler option. Therefore it would be more polite and less rude of TL to not include an ineffective no-spoiler option. | ||
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Anonymous_Coward
United Kingdom1347 Posts
On September 17 2012 05:58 GMarshal wrote: you need to clarify what the issue is exactly. http://imgur.com/z3TTG I don't much care, I know better than to visit TL/Reddit after a tournament if I don't want to know what happened yet, but if you're going to offer the option... | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
On September 17 2012 06:17 MisterFred wrote: Spoilers appear regardless of whether the no-spoiler option is checked on a regular basis. Therefore, suggesting there is such a thing as a no-spoiler option is pretty much lying. People who don't like spoilers often trust in this lie, and are thus, er... spoiled... more often than they would be if TL didn't pretend it had a no-spoiler option. Therefore it would be more polite and less rude of TL to not include an ineffective no-spoiler option. While we always appreciate feedback, perhaps it'd be more effective to use a less rude tone? Calling the people you're requesting something out of "liars" usually isn't the best idea in real life or on TL. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
In all honesty, I really don't understand why people who don't want to be spoiled go on TL. They know it's being talked about and they know that most people don't intentionally go out of their way to watch what they say in case they spoil something. It's just common sense. You don't want to get spoiled? Don't come on a website that dedicates their time to cover SC2 events | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On September 17 2012 08:44 SeeKeR wrote: Blah... In all honesty, I really don't understand why people who don't want to be spoiled go on TL. They know it's being talked about and they know that most people don't intentionally go out of their way to watch what they say in case they spoil something. It's just common sense. You don't want to get spoiled? Don't come on a website that dedicates their time to cover SC2 events Actually, I completely agree with you. But it seems + Show Spoiler + TL.net should just make their de facto policy their stated policy: do not visit the website if you don't want spoilers. The policy as it is, is flawed. Now, I'm sure the TL writers just accidentally forget to do whatever it is they need to do to not post spoilers on the front page now and again. + Show Spoiler + Actually, I don't think that's the case at all. At least some of the TL writers don't know or don't care about the website's stated-but-not-followed policy, making the "spoiler-free" check box a cruel joke at best. But pointing that out in simple language is not "polite," apparently. It's a minor issue to be sure, but telling people TL is going to do something and then not doing it - over and over again - is rude. TL;DR I'm not upset about being spoiled. I'm just trying to make TL.net a better place for its visitors. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On September 17 2012 07:44 monk. wrote: While we always appreciate feedback, perhaps it'd be more effective to use a less rude tone? Calling the people you're requesting something out of "liars" usually isn't the best idea in real life or on TL. Well, in point of fact, I suspect the overall efficacy of communication would decrease following an increase in the level of dissimulation, at least when engaging in this particular style of discourse. Would you prefer I said "TL.net does not follow its stated policy regarding spoilers"? 'Cause that's the same as calling the TL.net policy a lie. I'm not suggesting TL.net change its de facto policy, a change which is as undesirable as it is impractical. I'm simply suggesting TL.net admit to its de facto spoilers policy so that people who want to avoid spoilers don't have to learn the hard way that checking the 'no spoilers' option does not in fact lead to 'no spoilers.' If you don't want to be told TL.net doesn't follow its stated policy regarding spoilers, perhaps TL.net can change its policy to match up with reality. | ||
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brian
United States9633 Posts
To say they should remove the no spoiler option is a little unnecessary. Every little bit helps, maybe those users who aren't as incredibly worried about it appreciate the effort and are more grateful. Maybe you're being a little dramatic. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On September 17 2012 11:22 Gene wrote: Personally speaking, I would expect if you were that concerned about not being spoiled you wouldnt come to TL. As a matter of fact, if I was concerned about not being spoilered, I wouldn't come to TL. On September 17 2012 08:44 SeeKeR wrote: Blah... In all honesty, I really don't understand why people who don't want to be spoiled go on TL. On September 17 2012 09:26 MisterFred wrote: Actually, I completely agree with you. On September 17 2012 11:22 Gene wrote: I would think that needn't be policy, as it should be expected. On September 17 2012 09:26 MisterFred wrote: Actually, I completely agree with you. On February 24 2012 13:58 Waxangel wrote: For the minority that still want to visit TL without spoilers, here's how: [spoiler=Spoiler Process]1. Check the box at the bottom left of the front page, "hide spoilers." This will hide the Featured News and Community News sidebars, as well as hide any titles with spoilers on the front page, whether in images or in the TL articles or the Community News and Headlines section. 2. Register an account and collapse the forums (typically SC2 and SC2 Tournaments) that will have spoilers in their thread titles. On September 17 2012 11:22 Gene wrote: It is a starcraft news site, after all. If I TIVO'd the super bowl, I would probably avoid espn.com, even if they said its not on the front page. To say they should remove the no spoiler option is a little unnecessary. Every little bit helps, maybe those users who aren't as incredibly worried about it appreciate the effort and are more grateful. On July 24 2012 00:29 mr.reee wrote: Several different times, I have come to TL only to have major SC2 results I had intended to watch on VODs spoiled by headlines here at TL. I am consistent about checking the 'hide spoilers' box, but TL will not make the default setting, so each time I delete cookies/clear history, the box unchecks. Today, I wake up excited to watch the finals of yesterday's MLG. My 'hide spoilers' box is checked. Too bad. On July 28 2012 01:35 Plansix wrote: Minor gripe, but the even with no spoilers on, the photo on the front page spoils the GSL finals results. I clicked though as fast as I could at work, but still saw the word champion under Seed's photo. To be clear, I am at work, on lunch and on my work PC. I do not bookmark personal websites on my work PC. No spoilers is always on and I take special efforts to avoid live report threads when checking in. I am not crushed, but it is a minor bummer. On September 17 2012 11:22 Gene wrote: Maybe you're being a little dramatic. On September 17 2012 09:26 MisterFred wrote: It's a minor issue to be sure, but telling people TL is going to do something and then not doing it - over and over again - is rude. | ||
Plexa
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
I have my "no spoiler box" checked but I am spoiled by the news results. Could TL look into this bug? I'm sure you'll have 100% more success. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On September 17 2012 13:33 Azzur wrote: All you needed to do is write something like this: I have my "no spoiler box" checked but I am spoiled by the news results. Could TL look into this bug? I'm sure you'll have 100% more success. Had that been the problem, that's what I'd have done. That is not a problem for me, so I didn't write that post. And recent history has proven your belief unfounded. Not to mention I've already had every success I expected this thread to have. (Speaking of which, thanks Plexa) | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
Spoilers appear regardless of whether the no-spoiler option is checked on a regular basis. Therefore, suggesting there is such a thing as a no-spoiler option is pretty much lying. People who don't like spoilers often trust in this lie, and are thus, er... spoiled... more often than they would be if TL didn't pretend it had a no-spoiler option. Therefore it would be more polite and less rude of TL to not include an ineffective no-spoiler option Reading through your post, it is clear that you are an entitled person who feel that you can demand whatever you want and do it in an insulting manner. That post is not a one-off, your other posts in this thread are a similar vein. If you feel that you are not insulting (i.e. accusing people of lying) then maybe you should evaluate what kind of person you are. I'm 100% sure that the issue you are having is that there is a bug with the "no spoiler" functionality or the implementation has an error somewhere. This bug would be quite trivial to fix. If you had simply posted what I said and provided a screenshot detailing the error, I'm sure the TL website programmer (R1CH) can easily fix. You also accused TL writers who spent many hours writing reports of being dishonest: Actually, I don't think that's the case at all. At least some of the TL writers don't know or don't care about the website's stated-but-not-followed policy, making the "spoiler-free" check box a cruel joke at best. But pointing that out in simple language is not "polite," apparently. It's a minor issue to be sure, but telling people TL is going to do something and then not doing it - over and over again - is rude. Instead, you come in here and make an insulting and degratory post which in reality should get you nowhere. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
On September 17 2012 08:44 SeeKeR wrote: Blah... In all honesty, I really don't understand why people who don't want to be spoiled go on TL. They know it's being talked about and they know that most people don't intentionally go out of their way to watch what they say in case they spoil something. It's just common sense. You don't want to get spoiled? Don't come on a website that dedicates their time to cover SC2 events Well people don't come to TL only for SC2 these days, especially with it covering Dota 2 now, so having to drop out of discussions in General, Blogs and other sections just to prevent spoilers for the SC2 games they plan to watch doesn't seem like a very nice solution. I've personally had the "hide spoilers" button checked since it's creation but there definitely seems to be something preventing it from working the way it's intended. Whether it's buggy or the writing staff forgetting to tag their articles as spoilers I really have no idea but so many things slip through that it's just not effective. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
If you feel that you are not insulting (i.e. accusing people of lying) then maybe you should evaluate what kind of person you are. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
BTW, how's the view from your glass house? User was warned for this post | ||
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
If you object to the social convention of being decent towards others (even on the internet), then I suggest you hold back your objection while asking a question directed towards the people who can help you with the problem you're having. | ||
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On September 17 2012 16:21 TOCHMY wrote: Remove the no spoiler option and make sure people know they will get spoiled when they visit TL. I mean come on, I would like to see some 1 try to push the no-spoiler BS on the newspaper cuz they wrote the results of the football game that I recorded on my DVD to watch later. When you're comparing a newspaper to a website, we're talking about two different things here. It's practically impossible to push a no-spoiler "feature" onto the newspaper because if you push the main headlines back to the second page then you just lost the main headlines for the paper. Not everyone is going to see it then. However, with a website where things are more flexible, it IS possible to add such a feature as Teamliquid has attempted to do. Also realize that teamliquid isn't just a news site but also a forum to some others such as myself. I mainly post in the tech support forums, even though I'm an avid SC2 player and eSports follower, but there are times when I just want to post in the tech support forums and not want to actually view any spoilers for tournaments that are going on at the same time. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
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Devolved
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Plexa
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