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On June 15 2011 05:33 Fighter wrote: [If Idra and MC played today, a week from now, or a month from now, who knows how it would go.
If we're lucky, we'll find out at DreamHack.
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On June 15 2011 00:11 Defacer wrote: IdrA being the 'best foreigner' is unlikely, considering all the Europeans on the rise.
IdrA being in the upper tier of foreigners such as White Ra, Select, Sen, Dimaga, Naniwa ... that's not deniable at all. The only matches he lost, I believe, in both the NASL and MLG were to players from the Korean servers (including Sen).
He's not the best foreigner, but arguably the best American player.
No love for Strelok? I thought he played lights out at NASL.
IdraA's losses to Boxer seemed very BM to me. He didn't 'rage', but was very quick to quit. The announcers looked stunned both times. A normal state for Gretorp, of course, so I may be wrong
Has anyone seen a schedule for 'Tiebreak Tuesday'? Assume it's just going to start up at 9pm EST?
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On June 15 2011 00:38 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 00:11 Defacer wrote: IdrA being the 'best foreigner' is unlikely, considering all the Europeans on the rise.
IdrA being in the upper tier of foreigners such as White Ra, Select, Sen, Dimaga, Naniwa ... that's not deniable at all. The only matches he lost, I believe, in both the NASL and MLG were to players from the Korean servers (including Sen).
He's not the best foreigner, but arguably the best American player.
What European player would you say is better? Naniwa would be a tough one, they're both very good. Otherwise though... White-Ra is good but seems to have lost a bit of his luster... Dimaga is very good, but after GSL WC seems to have fallen off the radar a bit. I'd take Idra over Dimaga. Yeah I'd pretty much chalk it down to Idra/Naniwa with Thorzain very close behind as the best foreigners... EDIT: Forgot Sen. He's up there with Nani/Idra as well
White-Ra is the most underrated overrated player out there. I know he's a little too popular, but he always consistently does well in tournaments. In the NASL, he has only lost one match (accepted two walkovers) and is still in the Finals.
Both Dimaga and Sen don't have as many claims to fame, but if you followed their tournament performances they've always matched up well to the Koreans and taken down some big names.
I'm sure there are handful of Europeans I'm forgetting (like Strelok) that should be considered upper tier foreigners.Part of me feels that Jinro and Huk should be in that group, although it's hard to tell now that you don't see them matched up against foreign competition as often.
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I wouldnt say Idra is the best foreigner either, not even the best foreign zerg (Sen). The top three for each race I feel are Strelok, Kas and Thorzain for terran. Sen, Dimaga and Idra for zerg. Naniwa, White-ra and the third is tough, any one of Huk, Hasu or XiaoT i think.
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On June 15 2011 08:16 Aristodemus wrote: I wouldnt say Idra is the best foreigner either, not even the best foreign zerg (Sen). The top three for each race I feel are Strelok, Kas and Thorzain for terran. Sen, Dimaga and Idra for zerg. Naniwa, White-ra and the third is tough, any one of Huk, Hasu or XiaoT i think.
Select has to be up there, based purely on results.
Socke has to be up there for toss, right?
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sorry guys, i thought this already around 8 months ago but it has frequently proved right: all of you cheering for idra being "badass" and "genius", sorry youre simply blind. how can you respect a gamer with such behavior. i dont care if hes the best foreigner or best zerg or whatever you think he is, it just doesnt matter for me anymore AT ALL. i dont care if he wins or loses, i dont care what awesome accomplishments he gets, every time he does things like that, i wish more that he loses and the fanboys perhaps wake up and remove their pink glasses.. the thing is just.. the latter doesnt happen. sorry for the rant but this has got me for months now and i had to write it down somewhere.
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On June 15 2011 11:33 Sajiki wrote: sorry guys, i thought this already around 8 months ago but it has frequently proved right: all of you cheering for idra being "badass" and "genius", sorry youre simply blind. how can you respect a gamer with such behavior. i dont care if hes the best foreigner or best zerg or whatever you think he is, it just doesnt matter for me anymore AT ALL. i dont care if he wins or loses, i dont care what awesome accomplishments he gets, every time he does things like that, i wish more that he loses and the fanboys perhaps wake up and remove their pink glasses.. the thing is just.. the latter doesnt happen. sorry for the rant but this has got me for months now and i had to write it down somewhere.
1) Who is calling IdrA a badass or genius? 2) Being a fanboy is different from respecting someone's ability. 2) If you can't separate a person from what they they do, you never be fit to criticize anyone or their work.
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