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RSI is a very serious problem and very daunting to any hardcore gamer once it happens.
I developed tendonitis in my left wrist while playing semi-pro wow arena due to bad keyboard and hand placement. It's a terrible feeling and I've been recovering for over a year now to where I feel even remotely confident I can powergame. So let me add my two cents:
- get comfortable hotkeys. This may seem trivial but it's actually very important. Try to avoid frequent shift or alt plus key combinations, especially with hotkeys you need to spam. Balance hotkeys between your mouse and your keyboard hand.
- get a powerball and use it regularly. It does amazing things for your hand and wrist and you can use it while you are resting.
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Hmm, im starting to get some pretty nagging pains in my right hand (mainly the pinky area, it kind of starts in the knuckle and goes up the side of my hand). Im thinking its RSI. I've began doing some of the stretchs, but im confused, do you not want your wrist resting on anything at all? Because im noticing that on my right hand, my wrist is resting on the taple top while my hand does a lot of movements. So should i get a wrist pad? Or just let my wrist hover over?
Edit: Also is resting arms on armrests bad?
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Thanks a lot admittedly I was worried about this.
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On December 16 2010 13:56 Dcamp0308 wrote: Hmm, im starting to get some pretty nagging pains in my right hand (mainly the pinky area, it kind of starts in the knuckle and goes up the side of my hand). Im thinking its RSI. I've began doing some of the stretchs, but im confused, do you not want your wrist resting on anything at all? Because im noticing that on my right hand, my wrist is resting on the taple top while my hand does a lot of movements. So should i get a wrist pad? Or just let my wrist hover over?
Edit: Also is resting arms on armrests bad?
Yes. Both of these are bad. You want the bottom of your palm (you can feel two nubby bones at the bottom of your hand palm side), to be resting when you use your mouse. If while you are typing / mousing, you rest any other part of your wrists/forearms on anything it can cause compression which can damage your tendons and your nerves. A wrist rest won't actually do anything. I get pains from compressing my carpal bones/tendons when I use a wrist rest. So either hover or rest your palm on the table.
Notice if you set your hand down on a table, palm side down, that the most comfortable way to do it puts 0 pressure on your wrist. This is for a very specific reason. It's not meant to have pressure. Notice those same bones in your hand are supporting you.
This is why you might experience a tingling feeling if you are doing it too much or too heavily. If you are feeling tingling or numbness, this is a very serious sign that you are doing something wrong, and it could easily go from there to one of the most annoying pains you have ever felt.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
Oh yeah I found a program this year that's pretty good on your computer screen. It auto-adjusts the tint of color based on the amount of natural light available so it's better for your eyes at night.
http://www.stereopsis.com/flux/
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On December 20 2010 11:36 flamewheel wrote:Oh yeah I found a program this year that's pretty good on your computer screen. It auto-adjusts the tint of color based on the amount of natural light available so it's better for your eyes at night. http://www.stereopsis.com/flux/
Holy shit. That program is amazing. Thanks so much for posting this!
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GO RIDE A FUCKING BIKE.
Or something. Switch it up. seriously dudes go outside once in awhile, switch hands batin',idk.man up
User was temp banned for this post.
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Bump, this is good stuff I do these exercises almost every day
On December 20 2010 11:36 flamewheel wrote:Oh yeah I found a program this year that's pretty good on your computer screen. It auto-adjusts the tint of color based on the amount of natural light available so it's better for your eyes at night. http://www.stereopsis.com/flux/
Thanks
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problem is i fap, write and use keyboard for sc2 with my left hand
so it gets pounded day in and day out, played 13 games straight yesterday and now my wrist is a little achey
ive had MUCH worse pain though so atm i shud be fine try rest it
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yer, optical is onto something there. Look if RSI is such an issue (personally i dont believe in it, you rally shouldnt be that unfit) go ride a bike, seriously it will loosen up the forearms and promote muscle growth (a bit more extremely if you do down hill or motox as i know from experiance , so weid seeing a 65kg bloke with massive forearms and small upper arms)
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On January 14 2011 18:41 BordZ wrote:yer, optical is onto something there. Look if RSI is such an issue (personally i dont believe in it, you rally shouldnt be that unfit) go ride a bike, seriously it will loosen up the forearms and promote muscle growth (a bit more extremely if you do down hill or motox as i know from experiance , so weid seeing a 65kg bloke with massive forearms and small upper arms)
First of all what you said, if you have RSI, riding a bike will hurt extremely bad, and will probably cause more problems than you had before.
I had RSI very bad twice in my life, the first time I was much younger and riding my (bmx) bike was a huge mistake, and during the second time I got it, I would cycle a lot for fitness. I very much love cycling and I do it a lot, and I have to say that it hasn't helped me one bit and I've only personally found that during my time of recovery it only irritated my injury. I've always had fit forearms my entire life and it did not prevent me from repetitive stress injury because cycling doesn't provide the core strength and especially the flexibility that these exercises will. Increasing your range of motion is extremely important for long term computer usage.
As a cycling enthusiast, I can personally say that most of the time when I am cycling whether riding on flat ground or going up a hill, my forearms and wrists and upper body are rigid.
I've found that a daily stretching and core strengthening routine targeted on giving you a better range will help you to relax and not tense up at the computer much more than anything else. If anyone finds anything else please tell me, but I can safely say that cycling only hurt my problem.
It's like this: Serious tennis players will develop tennis elbow (a type of RSI) with a bad swing. It has nothing to do with their fitness level, because tennis players are clearly fit and strong in the areas that they need to be, it's just a bad motion that causes injury. This injury, a type of tendonitis, is also referred to as mouse elbow, which comes from poor posture and from doing the wrong type of motion with your mouse.
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Wait so...am i suppose to type with my hands elevated or like on a wrist pad?
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Very nice post.. I, like many here, have been using computers for a really long time (I'm 26).
I've definitely been feeling some form of pain in both my wrists and forearms. It comes and goes, mostly because I don't play computer games anymore, but even from using the computer too much, it creeps up on me.
I don't know if it's a separate issue, but on my left hand, the thumb frequently gets sharp pains, and if I sort of press the thumbnail in the corner, near the cuticle, it hurts extremely bad. Any kind of quick contact with the thumbnail causes pain.
Anyway, my posture is probably terrible, I've never invested in an ergonomic setup, but once I get a job again, I'm going to spend some money and make some improvements!
Thanks again!!
XD
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On December 20 2010 11:36 flamewheel wrote:Oh yeah I found a program this year that's pretty good on your computer screen. It auto-adjusts the tint of color based on the amount of natural light available so it's better for your eyes at night. http://www.stereopsis.com/flux/
Seriously, my eyes do thank you so much. They feel so relieved that they will spend another night staring on the screen :D
The information this thread offers will help you to spend time at your desk without getting all kinds of diseases. Especially the chair thing... Sitting on a wooden chair right now because the backrest of my other chair broke somehow and now I can lie in front of my computer Consider buying a pc bang chair but the price still does discourage me from buying it :/ But what are a few bugs for one's health.
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I got a problem with my elbow due to work (not only computer work) and another stretch was suggested for me.
Put your arm at your side, turn it so your palm is facing away from you (turn it so your thumb goes near your body instead of far away from it). Make a fist, raise your fist towards your elbow while keeping the elbow straight. Hold for 15-30 seconds, I can feel that it does good in the forearm for me.
Might transition well into the finger stretch where you do this and afterwards stretch the fingers (since you already did the fist).
I couldn't find any picture of it though, don't know what it is called in either Swedish or English. :/
Oh and for strengthening, thanks for the notice about bent elbow, I didn't know that, so had been doing them wrong for a bit.
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Northern Ireland163 Posts
I have to say, that flux software is AMAZING! My eyes actually feel much better looking at my screen after midnight in the darkness. I will keep doing these hand/wrist techniques as I do feel better doing them :-)
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Will a shake weight work? It works your wrists arms and hands at the same time.
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On May 09 2011 08:11 Wtfux wrote: I have to say, that flux software is AMAZING! My eyes actually feel much better looking at my screen after midnight in the darkness. I will keep doing these hand/wrist techniques as I do feel better doing them :-) Yeah, seriously I always wanted something like this. I always wanted my monitor to have the same features as my TV where you could adjust the lighting scheme, but this is 50x better.
<3 flux
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This is great stuff... Really wish I could change this desk I have, it's way to high and I feel I'm developing some of these symptoms... can't sleep at times because elbows are hurting but not in a pressed pain way but the nerves having suffered from bad angles.
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one of the better posts I've read on TL, GJ some good info for starcraft and for just good knowledge :D
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