EPT[March GSL] Code A Ro16 Day 2 - Page 48
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
phew WRONG THREAD SORRY | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:17 syllogism wrote: Strike cannon does more damage than even +3 normal attack does over 6 seconds as long as the target has enough health Yes, but with range 7 vs range 9 collosus with zealots to buffer, a high level Protoss will actually never allow you to fire the cannon He still should have researched it to deal with immortal though | ||
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Vorlik
1522 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:17 EmilA wrote: If you think strikecannons would make a difference in such an engagement you're wrong. Thors will not get in range of the faster 9-range collosi when there are zealots. Also, if you start to launch strike cannons on a collosi at max range, they can do one step back in the 2 seconds preparation time and the thor will cancel his cannon and thus have lost a few seconds on stepping forward and 4 seconds on getting cannons out and back again. You can just 1shot the immortals rather than the colossus, while vikings take the colossus. Very rarely will you have someone micro a colossus away from a strikecannon though. | ||
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:17 syllogism wrote: Strike cannon does more DPS than even +3 normal attack does over 6 seconds The Thor focuses on a single ground target, channeling 500 damage over 6 seconds while stunning the target. The ability consists of a 2 second intro, up to 6 seconds of both barrage (25 x 20dmg every .24 seconds) and stun (except against Ultralisks), then a 2 second outro. So thors with +1 do more damage per second than strike cannons. | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:17 EmilA wrote: If you think strikecannons would make a difference in such an engagement you're wrong. Thors will not get in range of the faster 9-range collosi when there are zealots. Also, if you start to launch strike cannons on a collosi at max range, they can do one step back in the 2 seconds preparation time and the thor will cancel his cannon and thus have lost a few seconds on stepping forward and 4 seconds on getting cannons out and back again. Dropships? Carry a Thor or two with your vikings, when colossus try to escape, drop + strike cannon Think outside the box, anything is possible. | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:17 vrok wrote: GSL4. Jinro vs MC. "Just a stun"? It causes the targeted Immortal/Colossus to do 0 damage. If you don't think that's powerful you're just being ignorant. It works close map positions, it doesn't work as well on big maps. I don't know how you can possibly say im ignorant for saying that, have you been trying to pull shit like this off on a high level for months? I certainly have. From what I remember Jinro had the game basically won at that point. What do you think I meant by stun? because what you said was exactly what i meant, i thought it was common knowledge. | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:20 Tump wrote: Dropships? Carry a Thor or two with your vikings, when colossus try to escape, drop + strike cannon Think outside the box, anything is possible. Blink stalker insta snipe dropships + thor and you lose the game. Really doesn't work at high level  | ||
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Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:17 Hellhammer wrote: False. 1 shot on immortal and colossus. Marines melt the FUCK out of zealots. Do you play Terran?? ... come on man... Collosus Storm immortal zealot. :s I can only picture the marines melting. I donno though, show us the replays in which you execute it. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:20 EmilA wrote: The Thor focuses on a single ground target, channeling 500 damage over 6 seconds while stunning the target. The ability consists of a 2 second intro, up to 6 seconds of both barrage (25 x 20dmg every .24 seconds) and stun (except against Ultralisks), then a 2 second outro. So thors with +1 do more damage per second than strike cannons. You are correct, forgot about the outro. Shouldn't have been so assertive as I don't even play terran. | ||
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Hellhammer
Canada144 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:20 EmilA wrote: The Thor focuses on a single ground target, channeling 500 damage over 6 seconds while stunning the target. The ability consists of a 2 second intro, up to 6 seconds of both barrage (25 x 20dmg every .24 seconds) and stun (except against Ultralisks), then a 2 second outro. So thors with +1 do more damage per second than strike cannons. You keep forgetting the stun; there will be no damage coming out of that unit. The rest of the army has free ground. And also, I read a few of your posts regarding Terran mech. By the sounds of it, you hate it and there is no room for debate with you. I'm just going to watch the game now instead of wasting my food on trolls. | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:20 Kyhol wrote: It works close map positions, it doesn't work as well on big maps. I don't know how you can possibly say im ignorant for saying that, have you been trying to pull shit like this off on a high level for months? I certainly have. From what I remember Jinro had the game basically won at that point. What do you think I meant by stun? because what you said was exactly what i meant, i thought it was common knowledge. I edited my post some. Either way, if MMA used it on the immortals he would have a MUCH better chance at winning the fight. About the stun, I took issue with you saying it's "just a stun", which is why I quoted it. Stunning an immortal is huge, nothing "just" about it. | ||
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Snowbear
Korea (South)1925 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:17 Hellhammer wrote: False. 1 shot on immortal and colossus. Marines melt the FUCK out of zealots. Do you play Terran?? ... come on man... 1 shot, yes, but you need to be able to shoot. You use the cannon ---> the thor will try to get in range --> it takes 2 seconds to start --> thor dies --> damage: 0. | ||
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Vorlik
1522 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:21 Lann555 wrote: Blink stalker insta snipe dropships + thor and you lose the game. Really doesn't work at high level This kind of thinking is why we rarely see innovative games. | ||
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FakeDouble
Australia676 Posts
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Moonwrath
United States9568 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38136 Posts
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Kyhol
Canada2574 Posts
On March 04 2011 21:22 vrok wrote: I edited my post some. Either way, if MMA used it on the immortals he would have a MUCH better chance at winning the fight. About the stun, I took issue with you saying it's "just a stun", which is why I quoted it. Stunning an immortal is huge, nothing "just" about it. Earlier in the game I can see it working. Later with the superior unit composition it's VERY hard to get that off. Maybe if you could get burrow movement with thors.. and they could move like hellions, well I can dream :p | ||
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