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I was so confused by this post, so I read the OP, the links, read more about it online, and then read the rest of the thread... I have come to 3 conclusions from what I see here.
While there are estrogen mimickers in many things, they are *supposed* to be regulated into trace amounts such that they have little to no effect. Only item I can think of that isn't regulated like that aside from birth control is bar soap (particularly ivory and dove).
As far as urine from women on birth control goes- that IS confusing to me... I didn't realize something like that could make that much of a difference unless they had a sudden surge in estrogen (like having a baby). This is why I'm confused that they are relating birth control to this.
My conclusions - unrelated to OP, more related to the responses I've read in the thread... + Show Spoiler + 1- Everybody *appears* to be either horribly homophobic or insecure with themselves ((ps- I'm not gay, but I'm not afraid of people who are, either...))
2- I drink A LOT of tap water; I have a high metabolism; I don't exercise at all beyond everyday work; I am 5'11" and 165lb ((this means I'm a pretty skinny dude)); --- I don't feel affected by this at all...
3- Acting manlier because you are scared of being effeminate will just make your brain become gender-confused and you will end up hypochondriac-ing your way into stress fat ((manboobs))... It's called a hysterical reaction ((I read this in a psych book in college, which I have since returned to the book store)).
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This entire story seems a little over exaggerated.
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so how long as this been going on? aka, have we (males) been consuming estrogen our whole life?
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What I fidn the most awesome about this thread is the fact that there were like 6? temp bans from all the first comments.
User was warned for this post
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One of our biology teacher told us about an interesting test that was performed on mice regarding Estrogen. They genetically modified mice to prevent the production of estrogen; they meant to identify the effects of estrogen on physical development. However, the most affected mice were not the female, but the men.
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This could be a real problem... If the fish are all turning into girls, then they might not be able to reproduce... unless we pour testosterone into the water...
This needs to be fixed. We cannot have hormones in drinking water going unchecked, this could prove disastrous.
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why are some of you so "scared shitless" of becoming feminine? I think it'd be a marvelous turn of events
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Yeah,whenever I begin hearing doomsday predictions about every-day items we use and consume in todays day and age, I become a little scepticle. There may be some truth to this, but to the extent of us all turning into women? Doubtful.
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There is tons of stuff in water, we have cleaner water now then 100 years ago, seriously people use to drink water that had sewage in it. We piss out testosterone... That is why male body builders drink there own pee. Also people rub pee on there face for the minerals. There is always going to be stuff in water. If you are scared get a distiller like me . it boils your water and collects it 99.9% pure what I do is I buy minerals so I can put the minerals back in it, other wise you'll have just pure water and no good minerals that is in water. Don't be alarmed there is worse stuff in water like arsenic is high in well water, city water you get some sewage, and rain water ad very high hard calcium why people get bladder stones. All this can be cured with distilled water. Don't trust bottle water its tap water any ways. Too many things in this world to be worried about you'll be freaking out on everything. its the scientists job to be sensational, just like global warming lol the earth has a temperature! we can fix shit we are humans we are only good at breaking stuff and adapting.
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I thought Egypt and Libya had all the abusive authorities until I saw all the banning on this thread.
On February 21 2011 03:39 Alexson wrote:I'm scarred shitless and I don't know too much about the subject
That's never a good combination. There's so little information it's nothing to get worked up about these types of stories come in the hundreds every day. You could find trace amounts of a hundred different more harmful chemicals than estrogen in 80% of rivers.
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On February 24 2011 12:31 Roflhaxx wrote: What I fidn the most awesome about this thread is the fact that there were like 6? temp bans from all the first comments.
User was warned for this post
or the fact that half of them were serious comments eek!
idk how the study translates to humans drinking water, but it's pretty scary stuff.
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I believe in the third link, they were testing estrogen content in mineral water in Germany. Are there any other studies from different locations? Is bottled water just as contaminated as tap water, or was it the plastic that was causing the contamination?
P.S. Tin Foil Hat Time: Estrogen decreasing bacteria slipped into nation's water supply as means of slowing down population growth.
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Here's an interesting article that discusses some of these issues.
Our Stolen Future
It's educational, and very worth the read if you have time.
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I'm almost afraid to post in a thread with so much red. Almost.
From what I've heard a lot of research has been put into how bad plastic bottles (and plastic in general) are for you. I'm not sure I'm buying the "estrogen turning us all into girls" thing, and the amount in the water seems insignificant. But the stuff about plastic is worth paying attention to.
But maybe I should actually work out a bit just in case?
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