On January 16 2011 07:11 Dionyseus wrote:
MC getting eliminated could be very bad for SC2's chances in Korea.
MC getting eliminated could be very bad for SC2's chances in Korea.
He isn't that popular, what are you talking about
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On January 16 2011 07:11 Dionyseus wrote: MC getting eliminated could be very bad for SC2's chances in Korea. He isn't that popular, what are you talking about | ||
sqrt
1210 Posts
On January 16 2011 07:27 -Archangel- wrote: To me that seemed a bit strange to say the least... almost as he was trying to fail. You're a troll, aren't you? On January 15 2011 17:46 Kennigit wrote: Suggesting that MC threw the game instead of playing sloppy is now bannable. Plexa and i will be working our way backwards to murder culprits. This would be a good time to edit your shit. Please refrain from making such comments, cuz, you know, the mods are watching. | ||
Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On January 16 2011 07:27 -Archangel- wrote: I didn't follow this thread yesterday and cannot read 191 pages :D So I am wondering if anyone discussed Jinro vs MC game 1, where MC attacks jinro with a lot of units (including like 4-5 sentry) and UNLIKE any other game I have watched when he attacks terrans he does not FF around the bunker and scvs manage to repair it (and casters even say how he managed to keep the bunker alive). To me that seemed a bit strange to say the least... almost as he was trying to fail. I made a comment on page 190 toward the bottom. No one responded so I don't know if I am right on this. Also, yeah. I wouldn't continue down the road your last statement implies. | ||
dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On January 15 2011 21:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Show nested quote + On January 15 2011 21:49 dunc wrote: On January 15 2011 21:21 Whiteman103 wrote: On January 15 2011 21:12 noD wrote: sooo happy now I think it has 3 possibilities 1) the IM guys wins 2) Jinro wins 3) foxer wins still i think IM guys have more chance than jinro and jinro way more than foxed =DDDD i tihnk 6 of the 8 can win all but Foxer and Choya. ya the guy who has been consistantly placing top4 in every korean tournament has no way of winning the gsl oh wait, your hate for foxer doesnt mean he cant win it all I didnt think Foxer would win but he showed today he can make siege tanks, so now I think he could! (:D) rofl There's also a couple of games of last season where he does thor drops!! Although I forgot against who, those games were pretty entertaining. I'm glad my 2 favourite players got through at least, I thought only one would because of MC. On January 16 2011 07:12 syllogism wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2011 06:34 jdreamer wrote: I think the current best players are still MC, Clides and MVP. Others are close to their levels as well. Haha are people serious about Clide? Because we can quite safely say definitely isn't even top 3 terran based on his performance in quite a few tournaments Yeah, I have nothing against Clide because he's a solid player but I'm glad he's out just because the commentators are beyond irritating everytime he plays a game. | ||
Basshoven792
United Kingdom7 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
And about MC not FFing the bunker in game 1, it would have done more harm than good, if he FF the bunker he traps himself in a choke and he can't go up the ramp anymore, and there are tanks and marines on the cliff. I think he quickly understood that the push failed, perhaps it made him not play his best. Rewatching the games now, it was really one of the best GSL days ever (yeah, we say this everyday this week =) ) Everything was "special" today, builds, winners, crowd...awesome :D | ||
seffer
United States143 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Never in my wildest dream could have I imagined that Jinro would be able to 2-0 MC. | ||
Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On January 16 2011 05:32 sqrt wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2011 05:22 ShyRamen wrote: i have been reading that few nights ago MK beat all OGS, what you guys referring to ? what games were they ? where can i find em ? :< I know it was in the team leagues, but I have no idea where a link can be. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184239 Basically MK did a reverse all-kill. His team came from 0-3 down to beat OGS 4-3 with MK beating all the OGS members which inluded Zenio, Top, MC and Hero. | ||
dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On January 16 2011 07:45 MrCon wrote: Jinro really seems to be a fan favortie in korea. I mean, the crowd reaction when he won game 1 and game 2 is awesome And about MC not FFing the bunker in game 1, it would have done more harm than good, if he FF the bunker he traps himself in a choke and he can't go up the ramp anymore, and there are tanks and marines on the cliff. I think he quickly understood that the push failed, perhaps it made him not play his best. Rewatching the games now, it was really one of the best GSL days ever (yeah, we say this everyday this week =) ) Everything was "special" today, builds, winners, crowd...awesome :D Except the games with Rainbow On January 16 2011 07:46 Ysellian wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2011 05:32 sqrt wrote: On January 16 2011 05:22 ShyRamen wrote: i have been reading that few nights ago MK beat all OGS, what you guys referring to ? what games were they ? where can i find em ? :< I know it was in the team leagues, but I have no idea where a link can be. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184239 Basically MK did a reverse all-kill. His team came from 0-3 down to beat OGS 4-3 with MK beating all the OGS members which inluded Zenio, Top, MC and Hero. He also placed third in the korean tournament held recently, with many code s players like fruitdealer/nestea/mvp Average terran right there!! | ||
dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On January 16 2011 07:11 Dionyseus wrote: MC getting eliminated could be very bad for SC2's chances in Korea. Not really. MC had no star power prior to winning GSL3. It wasn't even dramatic, unlike Fruitdealer's victory. I would argue that MarineKing and Rainbow are just as well known, if not more so than MC. MarineKing's run in GSL2 had a strong impact on the metagame and was more notable than MC's GSL3 run as MarineKing eliminated tournament favorites Fruitdealer and Rainbow. His Bo7 grand final series against NesTea was a lot more memorable than MC's roflstomp against Rain. Furthermore, that "fake Boxer" fiasco generated a lot of interest in MarineKing. Rainbow used to be a very famous SC1 player, best known for his reaver usage and impact on the Protoss metagame. He was one of the original SKT players along with Oov and Boxer, the first of SKT Protoss dynasty. Rainbow also made to the final and Ro4 of GSL 1 and 2, respectively. Jinro is a foreigner. That fact alone is truly crucial if GOM indeed intends for the GSL to become a global tournament. I would argue that the presence of foreigners is much more important than the survival of a former champion. So really, all four guys in this group are pretty crucial and got a lot of star power backing them. Regardless of the final result, it won't hurt GSL by much. The only thing that would really hurt GSL is if Boxer goes out early. | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
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zizou21
United States3683 Posts
edit: nm found it http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=417258 | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
Anyway great day today. Awesome games awesome Jinro and awesome rematch incoming! | ||
Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On January 16 2011 05:49 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: + Show Spoiler + I have a question about people talking about MC's FF decision versus Jinro in their first game versus his usage of FF against Rainbow. Now I don't actually have access to the VOD so I will try to base this on memory so correct me if I am wrong. Rainbow had 4 bunkers all filled with marines with little to no mech back up and SCV's inbound as the push was commenced. Jinro had 2-3 bunks with 1-2 actually containing marines, but also had siege tanks on both high and low ground giving support. Plus sent a considerable amount of SCV's for follow up repair. MC I believe chose to spend energy on Guardian Shield. Retrospective is always 20/20, but in the heat of the moment GS wouldn't have been such a bad decision considering his was mainly zealot/sentry with a few immortals. trying to marginalize the damage the marines could do to the immortals in the few bunkers that were able to be complete and defend at least some of the tank damage to the sentry's and zealots wouldn't have been such a bad thing. Especially if the immortals (and future backup) could come back to clean up the tanks. Spending FF to block bunker repair would have left the sentries and zealots vulnerable to raw tanking and Jinro could have chosen to repair tanks anyway. Again, if I am WAY off in my recollection I apologize. He had 1 bunker with rines in it and 2 or 3 tanks, I believe only 1(the highground one) not being lifted. He also had enough sentries to both GS and FF, given the choice between the two, obviously FF is by far more important, since what's 33% mitigation if you can't break the front anyway. It was horrible play, followed by probably a more devastating play when jinro hellion dropped him. It was bad on semi-pro level, on MC level... He *cough* choked hard. | ||
See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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Pbartender
Netherlands55 Posts
I must say, I tremendously enjoyed the RO16. There have been almost no "bad" games, I was entertained throughout. Sure, not every game was extremely close – MVP and Choya dominated their group, for example –, but every day had at least half the games being exciting. If that's the kind of quality I can hope for with RO32 over time (you know, without Sad Zenith et al), I'm a very happy camper. | ||
usethis2
2164 Posts
On January 16 2011 07:45 MrCon wrote: And about MC not FFing the bunker in game 1, it would have done more harm than good, if he FF the bunker he traps himself in a choke and he can't go up the ramp anymore, and there are tanks and marines on the cliff. Bingo. | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On January 16 2011 08:16 Zarahtra wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2011 05:49 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: + Show Spoiler + I have a question about people talking about MC's FF decision versus Jinro in their first game versus his usage of FF against Rainbow. Now I don't actually have access to the VOD so I will try to base this on memory so correct me if I am wrong. Rainbow had 4 bunkers all filled with marines with little to no mech back up and SCV's inbound as the push was commenced. Jinro had 2-3 bunks with 1-2 actually containing marines, but also had siege tanks on both high and low ground giving support. Plus sent a considerable amount of SCV's for follow up repair. MC I believe chose to spend energy on Guardian Shield. Retrospective is always 20/20, but in the heat of the moment GS wouldn't have been such a bad decision considering his was mainly zealot/sentry with a few immortals. trying to marginalize the damage the marines could do to the immortals in the few bunkers that were able to be complete and defend at least some of the tank damage to the sentry's and zealots wouldn't have been such a bad thing. Especially if the immortals (and future backup) could come back to clean up the tanks. Spending FF to block bunker repair would have left the sentries and zealots vulnerable to raw tanking and Jinro could have chosen to repair tanks anyway. Again, if I am WAY off in my recollection I apologize. He had 1 bunker with rines in it and 2 or 3 tanks, I believe only 1(the highground one) not being lifted. He also had enough sentries to both GS and FF, given the choice between the two, obviously FF is by far more important, since what's 33% mitigation if you can't break the front anyway. It was horrible play, followed by probably a more devastating play when jinro hellion dropped him. It was bad on semi-pro level, on MC level... He *cough* choked hard. Yes, it was a really bad play, uncharacteristic of MC we seen and loved before. But since hopefully they all played straight this is the only other explanation left to us no matter how funny it sounds. Anyways, to me both MC games looked bad, and I cannot say Jinro won because he was better but he won because MC played bad against him. I can see Idra winning against Jinro easily if random maps do not turn out to be terran favored like in their bo1 earlier. | ||
Gescom
Canada3305 Posts
reposting cause it's so awesome; + Show Spoiler + | ||
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