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On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 14 2010 15:18 orgolove wrote:On December 14 2010 15:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Ok, i have a question about the DT.
When a DT checks his target. Does he get the info that night? Or does he get it in the morning? If it returns in the morning, then LSB is lying about orgo killing RoL, because RoL wouldn't be able to tell LSB his result.
If he gets the result at night, then it's still not concrete on LSB.
annuuulllllllllllll Exactly.Look at his words carefully and you can find countless holes. And look at LSB's claims right now. On December 14 2010 15:09 LSB wrote: Okay, that makes things a lot easier.
1) I contribute to the death eater count. So basically I hold half a KP (like all other death eaters). So yes, I understand, lynching me reduces the same amount of KP as lynching orgolove. 2) Since Meapak is not harry, he must be lying about being blocked. There you go. Two mafia. This explains why RoL was hit 3) As long as I am alive, Harry is unkillable. Thats why you guys should try to keep me alive as long as possible.
Wow. So now he's claiming BOTH of us are lying? When he's have been scummy ALL GAME? And how many roles is he claiming now? First he claimed to be a Mafia Traitor. Next he claimed to have tracker. Now he's also claiming that, on top of all his other abilities, he's now an advanced martyr. Are all of you seriously believing this nonsense?? That didn't answer my question... I've never played DT, so idk how it works. When does the DT get his check results back? :3 This is what annul said on page 25. 1. Substitution roles. 2. Protection roles 3. Investigation roles. 4. Non-standard kill roles. 5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills. 6. Voldemort's personal kill.
Nevermind misread question. Sorry.
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On December 14 2010 15:24 why wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote:On December 14 2010 15:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 14 2010 15:18 orgolove wrote:On December 14 2010 15:16 jcarlsoniv wrote: Ok, i have a question about the DT.
When a DT checks his target. Does he get the info that night? Or does he get it in the morning? If it returns in the morning, then LSB is lying about orgo killing RoL, because RoL wouldn't be able to tell LSB his result.
If he gets the result at night, then it's still not concrete on LSB.
annuuulllllllllllll Exactly.Look at his words carefully and you can find countless holes. And look at LSB's claims right now. On December 14 2010 15:09 LSB wrote: Okay, that makes things a lot easier.
1) I contribute to the death eater count. So basically I hold half a KP (like all other death eaters). So yes, I understand, lynching me reduces the same amount of KP as lynching orgolove. 2) Since Meapak is not harry, he must be lying about being blocked. There you go. Two mafia. This explains why RoL was hit 3) As long as I am alive, Harry is unkillable. Thats why you guys should try to keep me alive as long as possible.
Wow. So now he's claiming BOTH of us are lying? When he's have been scummy ALL GAME? And how many roles is he claiming now? First he claimed to be a Mafia Traitor. Next he claimed to have tracker. Now he's also claiming that, on top of all his other abilities, he's now an advanced martyr. Are all of you seriously believing this nonsense?? That didn't answer my question... I've never played DT, so idk how it works. When does the DT get his check results back? :3 This is what annul said on page 25. 1. Substitution roles. 2. Protection roles 3. Investigation roles. 4. Non-standard kill roles. 5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills. 6. Voldemort's personal kill. Nevermind misread question. Sorry.
No worries. I missed that part of the post and that's good info to know =)
I think it is fairly obvious that LSB has been lying through his teeth up until know.
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I DO NOT THINK THAT LYNCHING ORGOLOVE A IS GOOD CHOICE.
Look, LSB claims that both orgolove and LSB both contribute to mafia's KP LSB, under huge danger of being lynched, role claimed and also SHITS happened. Orgolove is being lynch because LSB claims he is mafia.
If we lynch LSB: Mafia's KP will be reduce and we will find out if he is telling the truth. -If LSB is telling the truth, we lynch Orgolove tomorrow (result:2 mafia lynched) -If LSB is lying (result: 1 mafia lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused)
If we lynch Orgolove: Mafia's KP might or might not be reduce depending on if LSB is lying or not. -If LSB is telling the truth, we SHOULD lynch LSB tomorrow unless we find another mafia tomorrow. -If LSB is lying (result: 1 townie lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused).
If we want to reduce mafia's KP, we should Lynch LSB today and base tomorrow's lynch based on if LSB is lying or not.
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On December 14 2010 15:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: sorry for talking for the mod, but results and actions are always returned with the day post. The reason being it allows the users to change their actions until the day post and makes it so day 1 rc shit doesn't happen. So LSB would not know the result of RoL's check before RoL was killed. Sorry LSB. Caught you.
Quoting myself because I feel it is extremely important everyone sees this post.
Lynch LSB. He lied about the fact that RoL checked orgolove and that orgolove killed RoL, because RoL would not have gotten this information until the day, when he was already dead.
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Fair enough, LSB definitely seems to be pulling stuff out of thin air and we get a definite benefit from lynching him. My vote is only being delayed because I want kenpachi to weigh in, since nothing in LSB's claim explains that connection.
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On December 14 2010 15:31 LunarDestiny wrote: I DO NOT THINK THAT LYNCHING ORGOLOVE A IS GOOD CHOICE.
Look, LSB claims that both orgolove and LSB both contribute to mafia's KP LSB, under huge danger of being lynched, role claimed and also SHITS happened. Orgolove is being lynch because LSB claims he is mafia.
If we lynch LSB: Mafia's KP will be reduce and we will find out if he is telling the truth. -If LSB is telling the truth, we lynch Orgolove tomorrow (result:2 mafia lynched) -If LSB is lying (result: 1 mafia lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused)
If we lynch Orgolove: Mafia's KP might or might not be reduce depending on if LSB is lying or not. -If LSB is telling the truth, we SHOULD lynch LSB tomorrow unless we find another mafia tomorrow. -If LSB is lying (result: 1 townie lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused).
If we want to reduce mafia's KP, we should Lynch LSB today and base tomorrow's lynch based on if LSB is lying or not.
not to mention lsb flips red then kenpachi is another sure red lynch
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On December 14 2010 15:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I AM NOT HARRY.
be very careful
negative name claims can be just as bad as positive ones.
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On December 14 2010 15:31 LunarDestiny wrote: I DO NOT THINK THAT LYNCHING ORGOLOVE A IS GOOD CHOICE.
Look, LSB claims that both orgolove and LSB both contribute to mafia's KP LSB, under huge danger of being lynched, role claimed and also SHITS happened. Orgolove is being lynch because LSB claims he is mafia.
If we lynch LSB: Mafia's KP will be reduce and we will find out if he is telling the truth. -If LSB is telling the truth, we lynch Orgolove tomorrow (result:2 mafia lynched) -If LSB is lying (result: 1 mafia lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused)
If we lynch Orgolove: Mafia's KP might or might not be reduce depending on if LSB is lying or not. -If LSB is telling the truth, we SHOULD lynch LSB tomorrow unless we find another mafia tomorrow. -If LSB is lying (result: 1 townie lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused).
If we want to reduce mafia's KP, we should Lynch LSB today and base tomorrow's lynch based on if LSB is lying or not. Yeah after thinking about it further this makes more sense. Especially since LSB couldn't have known what RoLs check had come back. I'm not going to change my vote from LSB at this point. Although I honestly don't think he's lying about the role block (unless the mafia had him claim to be roleblocked to make me look bad when I said I was roleblocked) at this point him being roleblocked or not is moot. Unless the mafia know who Harry is LSBs protection is a hit or miss thing anyway.
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On December 14 2010 15:02 jcarlsoniv wrote: If his power has been blocked, would he still count towards Mafia KP?
I wonder if annul could shed light on this.
hypothetically speaking, if an ability exists that is being commonly referred to as "roleblock," and if said ability were used on a player contributing to mafia KP, that player would still contribute to mafia KP.
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LSB, I want you to be telling the truth. You said that someone of your posts hint your role ability or your "traitor" role. Where are those hints?
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On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:20 jcarlsoniv wrote: That didn't answer my question...
I've never played DT, so idk how it works. When does the DT get his check results back? :3 This is what annul said on page 25. 1. Substitution roles. 2. Protection roles 3. Investigation roles. 4. Non-standard kill roles. 5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills. 6. Voldemort's personal kill.
the six layer system is how i personally resolve conflicting roles when there is a question as to how roles will interact when used against each other. i do the entire calculation on my side, without revealing anything, in the order above. then, when day post comes, all actions occur simultaneously, with those in layer 1 happening "first", then layer 2, then layer 3, etc. so while, for example, a medic role (layer 2) would be resolved before a night vig (layer 4), they are revealed as a group as close to day post as possible.
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and it is now bedtime. any last questions should be addressed to me in the next like 3 minutes =P
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On December 14 2010 15:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 14 2010 15:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: sorry for talking for the mod, but results and actions are always returned with the day post. The reason being it allows the users to change their actions until the day post and makes it so day 1 rc shit doesn't happen. So LSB would not know the result of RoL's check before RoL was killed. Sorry LSB. Caught you. Quoting myself because I feel it is extremely important everyone sees this post. Lynch LSB. He lied about the fact that RoL checked orgolove and that orgolove killed RoL, because RoL would not have gotten this information until the day, when he was already dead. This makes sense. Good thing you asked when do the checks get returned to the user. Voting to lynch LSB - gives the most info out of everyone else in suspicion.
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the voting appears to be unanimous.
if it remains this way, or close to, i will end the day early, when i wake up. who knows when that will be.
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Sigh. I'm beat. At least some people can look at the patterns and figure out a blatant lie...
Look. When LSB is lynched, his name, alignment, and full role PM will also be revealed. And you'll see what I've been pointing out from the start of this game - that he's a red.
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Wow at the amount of post. I’m not even through yet, but my initial thought was that LSB is continuing his extremely scummy play, now even semi roleclaiming mafia. He has obviously been trying to get lynched since day 1, and I don’t like it at all. I might change my mind when I get to process the possibilities, and the potential advantages of a lynch for information.
My question is, Kenpachi why are you so certain of him?
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On December 14 2010 15:31 LunarDestiny wrote: I DO NOT THINK THAT LYNCHING ORGOLOVE A IS GOOD CHOICE.
Look, LSB claims that both orgolove and LSB both contribute to mafia's KP LSB, under huge danger of being lynched, role claimed and also SHITS happened. Orgolove is being lynch because LSB claims he is mafia.
If we lynch LSB: Mafia's KP will be reduce and we will find out if he is telling the truth. -If LSB is telling the truth, we lynch Orgolove tomorrow (result:2 mafia lynched) -If LSB is lying (result: 1 mafia lynched, tomorrow's lynch unused)
This most makes most sense out of ALL that was posted in the last 12 hours.
I was going to post this exact same thing. This whole move of LSB REEKS of what Pandain did in Insane mafia. I would ask Pandain: Who would YOU vote for in this case?
LSB is clear scum. If he's a traitor or not, it doesn't really matter. Lynching him will tell us. And if we know 100% sure that he's traitor, then we get rid of orgolove, and possibly a few others.
Whatever town does, just don't let LSB slip away like Pandain did.
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Pretty obvious that LSB is snape.
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I'm going to vote LSB as well. We get some usefull information, and I simply can't see him not being red at this point.
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LSB lynched first. If on the extremely remote chance he flips green then we do Orgolove.
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