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Realm : North America Your name : Xanatos Hacker Name : iPwn and Pikachu Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82796-2v2-terran-protoss-tarsonis-assault Description : Both Pikachu and iPwn clearly map hacking. Obvious things to note : iPwn sends 2scvs out to attack a proxy base location without ever scouting it, or our bases After watching the replay i found both players to be looking at my unscouted base, and especially our proxy base location for no apparent reason..
Please help expose this Rank 1 Diamond 2v2 team as the map hacking scum that they are. Both players belong to several other teams with incredible records (10-1 win ratios). It is likely that they have map hacking friends too. Please post replays and expose any hacker friends of theirs.
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Realm : North America Your name : ZomgTossRush Hacker Name : Ray Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82821-1v1-protoss-delta-quadrant Description : Now this is a tricky one, and if you dont look very closely you'll gonna miss it. And he does EVERYTHING possible to show he isn't hacking.
Now at 1:20 to 1:27 i try to sneak a probe into his back. If you look at rays VISION, you can see my probe is clearly in his vision. So of course you are going to say "duh he saw your probe sneak by , you cant get a proxy off.
Takeing a 2nd look at the replay. Look at exactly 1:20 to 1:27 in rays camera. He moves his main window up slightly, just enough to not see my probe go by. Like EXACTLY the perfect timing so his main view cant see my probe go by. Its as if he saw it coming across the minimap and moved his camera out of the way for some hacking reason.
Now you could say he saw it on the minimap, and wanted to hide the fact that he saw it....? Nope doesn't make sense. If you saw something moving across the minimap wouldnt you want to see what it is?
Another point is, is that im a random player, So if you saw something in your minimap, wouldn't u want to see if it wa s a drone/probe/scv? Why would you want to PURPOSEFULLY move your camera so you cant see what your eye glances in the minimap?
I hope others feel my suspicion on this ticky hacker.
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This one looks just as real as your last detected hacker: ie not at all
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Realm : North America Your name : MrMoomuku Hacker Name : Tupac Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82857-1v1-terran-protoss-lost-temple Description : I suspected a map hack when he 2 gated me without scouting (we were at cross positions)
Obvious things to note : 0:22 (in his camera) he quickly glances at my base on LT 2:18 (in his camera) he rallies his gateways straight to my base w/o scouting
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On September 18 2010 16:39 MamiyaOtaru wrote: This one looks just as real as your last detected hacker: ie not at all
did you watch the replay?
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On September 18 2010 15:58 zomgtossrush wrote:Realm : North America Your name : ZomgTossRush Hacker Name : Ray Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82821-1v1-protoss-delta-quadrantDescription : Now this is a tricky one, and if you dont look very closely you'll gonna miss it. And he does EVERYTHING possible to show he isn't hacking. Now at 1:20 to 1:27 i try to sneak a probe into his back. If you look at rays VISION, you can see my probe is clearly in his vision. So of course you are going to say "duh he saw your probe sneak by , you cant get a proxy off. Takeing a 2nd look at the replay. Look at exactly 1:20 to 1:27 in rays camera. He moves his main window up slightly, just enough to not see my probe go by. Like EXACTLY the perfect timing so his main view cant see my probe go by. Its as if he saw it coming across the minimap and moved his camera out of the way for some hacking reason. Now you could say he saw it on the minimap, and wanted to hide the fact that he saw it....? Nope doesn't make sense. If you saw something moving across the minimap wouldnt you want to see what it is? Another point is, is that im a random player, So if you saw something in your minimap, wouldn't u want to see if it wa s a drone/probe/scv? Why would you want to PURPOSEFULLY move your camera so you cant see what your eye glances in the minimap? I hope others feel my suspicion on this ticky hacker.
No evidence of hacking. There' s no evidence he even saw the sneaksy probe wander into his backdoor expansion, his camera was jigging around slightly all the time in his base anyways, as you'd expect with 200 APM and nothing much to do except click probes and/or minerals. The only other evidence of hacking was that the player used a spare unit to scout his base in case of tricksiness, and finds a warp pylon in there that shouldn't have been there. Perfectly reasonable. I do that too, after I came across an empty Terran main, and eventually found a couple of raxes, and a posse of marines all chilling out in there one time.
Description : Now this is a tricky one, and if you dont look very closely you'll gonna miss it. And he does EVERYTHING possible to show he isn't hacking.
Agreed. The easiest way of showing you're not hacking is to not hack. Pounds to peanuts that's what this guy did.
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Now at 1:20 to 1:27 i try to sneak a probe into his back. If you look at rays VISION, you can see my probe is clearly in his vision. So of course you are going to say "duh he saw your probe sneak by , you cant get a proxy off.
I rewatched, and the probe is NEVER in Ray's vision on the main screen. It might just barely pop into view at the bottom left if he was using a wide screen monitor (I'm not using one, perhaps you are), and even then, he might not have noticed it if his peripheral vision isn't that good. I have noticed that I do sometimes miss things at the edge of the screen. You ought to consider that not everybody is using the same aspect-ratio monitor that you are.
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Here's one from SEA for you guys to look over, thought it was reasonably suspicious.
Realm: SEA Your name: Mizzet Hacker name: Allin Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82900-1v1-terran-protoss-xelnaga-caverns Description: Frequent looking at base through fog of war mainly, builds an observer but doesn't seem interested in poking around my base with it. Intercepts two instances of drops/harass without scouting it as well.
Things to note: You can set it to player camera from the start, the first instance of looking at my base without vision starts pretty early, before the first minute.
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Realm : NA Hacker Name : tieuson & JimmyReplay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82910-2v2-terran-protoss-war-zoneDescription : 2v2 TT v PP, tieuson is the blatant maphacker, Jimmy checks the fog only once or twice. Note : Use first-person view to see that they regularly scan over the fog. The funny part is that they never scout our buildings in the entire game, ever (until their final attack), yet take multiple glances over our bases, especially the somewhat unusual placement of my barracks. Also note how he moves his units to (or warps-in) where my reapers are headed.
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On September 18 2010 19:52 Mizzet wrote:Here's one from SEA for you guys to look over, thought it was reasonably suspicious. Realm: SEA Your name: Mizzet Hacker name: Allin Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82900-1v1-terran-protoss-xelnaga-cavernsDescription: Frequent looking at base through fog of war mainly, builds an observer but doesn't seem interested in poking around my base with it. Intercepts two instances of drops/harass without scouting it as well. Things to note: You can set it to player camera from the start, the first instance of looking at my base without vision starts pretty early, before the first minute.
Obvious maphacker. As well as scouting your base, he also views some unit groups through fog a few times.
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(I'll post this from my own account, posted it from gfs).
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Realm : Europe Your name : Qzy Hacker Name : Tsubasa Replay : [url blocked] Description : Very obvious fog of war hack - look at it from his vision and cry a tear.
Obvious things to note : Looking into fog of war exactly where my army is.. Pulling his army back, when my army is entering his base. No scouting.
Obvious hack is obvious.
Afterwards the guy told me i suck, and he was on the german pro-team n!faculty. I got a screenshot of chat if needed. Sucks for that n!-team, if they got a hacker among them.
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Realm : North America Your name : Xanatos Hacker Name : iPwn and Pikachu Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82796-2v2-terran-protoss-tarsonis-assaultDescription : Both Pikachu and iPwn clearly map hacking. Obvious things to note : iPwn sends 2scvs out to attack a proxy base location without ever scouting it, or our bases After watching the replay i found both players to be looking at my unscouted base, and especially our proxy base location for no apparent reason..
Opinions?
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On September 18 2010 19:24 Aim Here wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2010 15:58 zomgtossrush wrote:Realm : North America Your name : ZomgTossRush Hacker Name : Ray Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82821-1v1-protoss-delta-quadrantDescription : Now this is a tricky one, and if you dont look very closely you'll gonna miss it. And he does EVERYTHING possible to show he isn't hacking. Now at 1:20 to 1:27 i try to sneak a probe into his back. If you look at rays VISION, you can see my probe is clearly in his vision. So of course you are going to say "duh he saw your probe sneak by , you cant get a proxy off. Takeing a 2nd look at the replay. Look at exactly 1:20 to 1:27 in rays camera. He moves his main window up slightly, just enough to not see my probe go by. Like EXACTLY the perfect timing so his main view cant see my probe go by. Its as if he saw it coming across the minimap and moved his camera out of the way for some hacking reason. Now you could say he saw it on the minimap, and wanted to hide the fact that he saw it....? Nope doesn't make sense. If you saw something moving across the minimap wouldnt you want to see what it is? Another point is, is that im a random player, So if you saw something in your minimap, wouldn't u want to see if it wa s a drone/probe/scv? Why would you want to PURPOSEFULLY move your camera so you cant see what your eye glances in the minimap? I hope others feel my suspicion on this ticky hacker. No evidence of hacking. There' s no evidence he even saw the sneaksy probe wander into his backdoor expansion, his camera was jigging around slightly all the time in his base anyways, as you'd expect with 200 APM and nothing much to do except click probes and/or minerals. The only other evidence of hacking was that the player used a spare unit to scout his base in case of tricksiness, and finds a warp pylon in there that shouldn't have been there. Perfectly reasonable. I do that too, after I came across an empty Terran main, and eventually found a couple of raxes, and a posse of marines all chilling out in there one time. Show nested quote + Description : Now this is a tricky one, and if you dont look very closely you'll gonna miss it. And he does EVERYTHING possible to show he isn't hacking.
Agreed. The easiest way of showing you're not hacking is to not hack. Pounds to peanuts that's what this guy did. Edit: Show nested quote +Now at 1:20 to 1:27 i try to sneak a probe into his back. If you look at rays VISION, you can see my probe is clearly in his vision. So of course you are going to say "duh he saw your probe sneak by , you cant get a proxy off.
I rewatched, and the probe is NEVER in Ray's vision on the main screen. It might just barely pop into view at the bottom left if he was using a wide screen monitor (I'm not using one, perhaps you are), and even then, he might not have noticed it if his peripheral vision isn't that good. I have noticed that I do sometimes miss things at the edge of the screen. You ought to consider that not everybody is using the same aspect-ratio monitor that you are.
never considered that, i wonder if having a widescreen moniter effects camera view(i have a standard screen)
i still stand suspicious of why he purposefully doesn't try to watch my probe. If he hacks, the he will get caught.
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Realm : North America Your name : Roman Hacker Name : DocHoliday Replay : http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=150249 Description:
I'm going to give this the benefit of the doubt but I wouldn't mind someone else with a less biased opinion watch the replay with only his vision.
Remember one key thing with this replay that he is a 1500 Diamond Terran.
He doesn't even see a single building of mine (A SINGLE BUILDING) until past 11 minutes into the game. Does no scans before hand... and then twice he moves his entire army into my units which he has 0 vision of both times.
Razoric Post: 2:19, 3:08 - Checks out your base 4:05 - checks zealot moving out 4:43 - when marine dies, he moves camera up 4:57 - checks zealot + stalker moving 5:15, 5:40, 5:50 - checks your base 6:50, 7:11 - checks your base quite a bit 7:20 - checks nexus just starting 7:46 - again 8:09 - definitely checking out your expo 8:50 - checks massed army 10:02, 10:47, 10:52 - checks base 11:11 - checks army 11:10 - warp prism leaves your base. he immediately goes after the rocks and moves his raven over to deal with it before you can warp anything in. suspicious? more like blatant. 13:50, 15:06, 16:10 - checks base 17:20 - your army moves out to attack his PF expo. He immediately builds a turret before they get there, and his army mobilizes to defend it before he even sees it coming. again, blatant. 23:05 - knows exactly where your super secret expo is, rather than one to the north. fairly logical to figure out since it's closest, but still kind of blatant, especially since he attacked before scanning. 24:00 - knows exactly where to 'scan' for your last pylon
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Realm: North America Your name: Sojourner Hacker Name: pure
replay
Description: its pvp. He never scouts my base, looks at my base under fog of war throughout the game to counter my build.
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Realm : North America Your name : Pewpitar Hacker Name : USMCFirebat Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82883-1v1-terran-protoss-desert-oasis Description : He left his camera locked on his bases the whole game. While he was microing reapers in my base He never scouted/scanned. Yet he countered my colossi with vikings. After he got my main base, he didnt attack my expo because my army was too big. As soon as i started my observer, he started his started his starport.
Obvious things to note : See above
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On September 18 2010 04:53 jamesr12 wrote:100% confirmed, hacker and he doesn't even care if you know it.
Yeah, after the game I msged him saying, "Man, hack more plz. Enjoy your ban." and he replies with "Talk to someone who cares" =\ I don't know what's more disheartening, having to play against hackers, or having the hackers not care whether or not they get discovered.
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Edit: Deleted this thread depresses me.
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@ZomgTossRush, quoted: + Show Spoiler +On September 18 2010 15:58 zomgtossrush wrote:Realm : North America Your name : ZomgTossRush Hacker Name : Ray Replay : http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/82821-1v1-protoss-delta-quadrantDescription : Now this is a tricky one, and if you dont look very closely you'll gonna miss it. And he does EVERYTHING possible to show he isn't hacking. Now at 1:20 to 1:27 i try to sneak a probe into his back. If you look at rays VISION, you can see my probe is clearly in his vision. So of course you are going to say "duh he saw your probe sneak by , you cant get a proxy off. Takeing a 2nd look at the replay. Look at exactly 1:20 to 1:27 in rays camera. He moves his main window up slightly, just enough to not see my probe go by. Like EXACTLY the perfect timing so his main view cant see my probe go by. Its as if he saw it coming across the minimap and moved his camera out of the way for some hacking reason. Now you could say he saw it on the minimap, and wanted to hide the fact that he saw it....? Nope doesn't make sense. If you saw something moving across the minimap wouldnt you want to see what it is? Another point is, is that im a random player, So if you saw something in your minimap, wouldn't u want to see if it wa s a drone/probe/scv? Why would you want to PURPOSEFULLY move your camera so you cant see what your eye glances in the minimap? I hope others feel my suspicion on this ticky hacker.
oh god, this is ridiculous. This guy obviously isnt hacking. Your reports are full of shenanigans.
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