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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img263.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=41742_comic_122_481lo.JPG) "Mohammad in real life was far more murderous than this portrait might suggest. He was a pioneer in mass murder, lecherous incest and mind-numbing torture. Hence this relatively ‘humane’ looking portrait of this heinous ghoul Mohammad is in fact our tribute to him." Mohamed's Believe it or else! From a completely non-biased author. Thesighter, I thought you had nothing against Islam. | ||
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thesighter
United States347 Posts
On August 27 2010 02:02 Offhand wrote: I wonder why the Muslims under Mohammed let the Israelis live peacefully after conquering Israel in the 7th century. It may have had something to do with the practice of accepting "people of the the book" which was used in both the initial Muslim conquests and the Ottoman Empire. The millet system included all conquered peoples as subjects of the nation, but not Muslim faith meaning religious laws did not apply to non-Muslims. Non-Muslims normally were required to pay a tax however (in keeping with the practice of alms-giving, known as zakat). You're welcome to debate Islam as a hateful religion. I did my history thesis on Israel and the various peoples who ruled the area. If Mohamed wanted to annihilate the Jews he very well would have when Israel was conquered, but he let them live as peaceful subjects of the empire. + Show Spoiler + Sunni and Shia reference different collections of the Hadith. The Sunni Haddiths were wriiten over 200 years after the death of Mohammed and their authenticity as actual works of Mohamed have been debated by Sunni scholars. Shia Hadiths were written by the "three Mohameds" so, yes, you can attribute their sayings to "a" Mohamed. Shia scholars have admitted there is not complete authenticity in any Hadith. Wahhabists are a Sunni sect. Okay, so you're going to blame those quotes on the Sunnis. The Shia don't have a good tracking record on anti-Semitism either, especially in the modern age. UN report on the textbooks published in Iran http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/country,,FREEHOU,,IRN,,484901281a,0.html The holocaust never happened! If you want to talk about Muhammad, there are plenty of things to talk about. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha Muhammad took her as his wife when she was 6 or 7 years old. Was Muhammad a pedophile? | ||
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Achilles
Canada385 Posts
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Calidus
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On August 27 2010 02:31 Calidus wrote: The issue is not whether a mosque should be allowed be built their or not(that is pretty obvious yes) the issue is, Who is building is this mosque? Are the moderate? or exterme As long as their are no "questionable" ties to groups like Ham-mass(not sure if that is the correct spelling) it should be built. As a conservative the only thing i dislike more than extremely left points of view are people who try to argue conservative topic and just end up sounding sounding like big-gits because they are uninformed. What bugs me is how social conservatives can step in and say a private group should be banned from building their own structure on private property. Obviously the reason is because they're not actual conservatives, they're just hypocrites and bigots, but there's quite a few of them these days. I almost wish there were more Libertarians to counteract them. As for the "mosque", it's a Muslim YMCA with a prayer hall. It's no different than any JCC, and there's tons of them in NY. | ||
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thesighter
United States347 Posts
On August 27 2010 02:23 Offhand wrote: "Mohammad in real life was far more murderous than this portrait might suggest. He was a pioneer in mass murder, lecherous incest and mind-numbing torture. Hence this relatively ‘humane’ looking portrait of this heinous ghoul Mohammad is in fact our tribute to him." Mohamed's Believe it or else! From a completely non-biased author. Thesighter, I thought you had nothing against Islam. Islam needs to be criticized regarding its views of womens rights, homosexuality, apostasy, jizya, jihad, temporary marriage, etc.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam You know that in Islam, if you decide to leave the religion, the traditional punishment is death. | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On August 27 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote: Islam needs to be criticized regarding its views of womens rights, homosexuality, apostasy, jizya, jihad, temporary marriage, etc.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam You know that in Islam, if you decide to leave the religion, the traditional punishment is death. I could carefully explain why this is no more or less extreme then other religions, but it's a red herring, so I'll leave it at that. Isn't bigotry a bannable offense on these forums anyway? | ||
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muta_micro
United States183 Posts
On August 26 2010 03:08 hifriend wrote: It's only insensitive if you hold the false assertion that Islam as a religion of approximately 1-1.8 billion practitioners is connected to the atrocities committed by a few in the name of Islam. Some muslims also fell victim to 9/11, and from what it seems every muslim living in america is an indirect victim even today. I wonder how your opinion would be different if a terrorist attack on the same scale of 9/11, in the name of Islam, happened in Sweden and then a muslim group wanted a mosque to be constructed nearby? I think anyone who isn't American really must understand that their opinions are irrelevant in this matter, because as much as you want to appear to be a modern, unbiased person, you have to understand that nationalist sentiments will override the views of people in the US who would otherwise share your same moderate views. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 26 2010 02:52 thesighter wrote: Definitely related. Mosque developers need to take a hint and stop the construction. If the mosque is constructed, I anticipate that there will be more anti-Islam violence, eg the mosque makes the situation of Muslims in NYC much worse. Republicans are going to use this mosque issue as ammunition for the coming elections. Given that over 60% of Americans are against the mosque, this is going to bad news for the Obama administration. Are you blaming the developers? Really now. Thank the media for bringing so much attention to it. To clarify. It isn't even a mosque. -_- | ||
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thesighter
United States347 Posts
On August 27 2010 02:40 Offhand wrote: I could carefully explain why this is no more or less extreme then other religions, but it's a red herring, so I'll leave it at that. Isn't bigotry a bannable offense on these forums anyway? I'm stating the facts about Islam. I've seen plenty of Christianity bashing in these forums, everyone was fine with it. Islam needs to be criticized for it to be reformed. The fundamental problems in Islam are related to the current poor state of the Middle East. Look at the advancement of Israel and compare it to its Arab neighbors. Without oil, how much different would the Arab states be from Africa ? | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
In another brazen anti-Muslim incident, a man wandered into a mosque in Queens Wednesday night, shouting racial slurs and urinating all over prayer rugs. According to police, a drunk Omar Rivera shouted "terrorists" before relieving himself in the Iman Mosque. Source | ||
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nArAnjO
Peru2571 Posts
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thesighter
United States347 Posts
On August 27 2010 02:40 Offhand wrote: I could carefully explain why this is no more or less extreme then other religions, but it's a red herring, so I'll leave it at that. Isn't bigotry a bannable offense on these forums anyway? Bill Maher on Islam. Not all religions are equal. Muslims love to point to Christianity to defend the flaws of Islam. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:25 thesighter wrote: + Show Spoiler + Bill Maher on Islam. Not all religions are equal. Muslims love to point to Christianity to defend the flaws of Islam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUEaMA4gRIk Bill Maher is a high functioning retard. He's just a hair better then Beck or Coulter and draws idiot libertarians instead of idiot republicans. | ||
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thesighter
United States347 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:30 Offhand wrote: Bill Maher is a high functioning retard. He's just a hair better then Beck or Coulter and draws idiot libertarians instead of idiot republicans. Pat Condell (UK atheist) Richard Dawkins (UK atheist) | ||
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Pandain
United States12979 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:43 thesighter wrote: Pat Condell (UK atheist) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhN6CG1zCRc Richard Dawkins (UK atheist) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhYus6TiGEE Richard Dawkins hates every religion. And the first video is so biased and skewed I just had to turn it off. | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
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thesighter
United States347 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:56 Signet wrote: Yeah, which is a shame since he is such a smart person. But the whole "faith sufferer" thing is over the top, and on this subject he us prone to mix a lot of bad arguments in with the legitimate criticism, as well as the legitimate concerns about our society's negative bias against atheists. Intelligence and prejudice are not mutually exclusive. You do know a lot of atheists are against Islam, right? It actually a LOT of sense, given that atheism is classified as apostasy in Islam, and it is punishable by death in many Muslim countries. | ||
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